rwoman

I could not tell you how many more inches of legroom Row 20 has over Row 17, but it may be a bit better...I'm usually on the 764s. Keep in mind, with 17 or 20, they have immoveable armrests and the seat is narrower...may be a concern if you're a "big" guy.

Row 20 recline is not quite as good as row 21 or the rest of EC, but IME, it does recline.

Per post #1 (please do some research as that thread is current, includes links, and I get tired of repeating myself ), I've posted comments here: LINK and LINK

jr1202sr

I do appreciate your time and help. Moved to Row 20 from 17 for the extra legroom. Both will have the same width.

On a separate topic I was reviewing my Outbound FLIGHT: DL 174 (ATL-AMS) on a A320 and the seat map shows the empty seats in Row 10 on this Plane as 10 D + F and NOT Seats C + G. Thus Making seats 11C and 11G not as attractive and Seats 11D +F more attractive. Anyone seen this before?

I have reviewed the thread and couldn't find this anywhere else. Is the seat map wrong? I could take 10A if that has as much room and not worry about it, but wanted to alert others what I saw so nobody gets a bad surprise.

rwoman

Huh?

10A/J - on the A333, there is a slide in front of the row 10 window seats, which some do not like. On the A332, there is a bulkhead in front of row 10.

10DF - On the A332, 10DF are in front of row 11(CDFG) and 11C/G have very good leg room; this IS referenced in Post #1 - also, entertainment boxes under row10 impede legroom for 11D/F. On the A333, 12CDFG are the bulkhead middle seats.

jr1202sr

That is why I wrote what I did. Go look at the seat map for that flight I posted. Something is DIFFERENT about the configuration. That is why I brought it up.

Also, are you saying on a On the A332, there is a bulkhead in front of row 10 without extra legroom or just in general there is one (with extra legroom). I do appreciate your help and will measure the seats btw when I fly so everyone will have an idea exactly.

rwoman

Well, firstly, you do not specify the date of the ATL-AMS flight. Second, it's either an A330-200 or A330-300 flying the route...I doubt an A320 is going to make it.

Looking at a dummy booking with the A333 outbound and A332 return... while the seatmap on dl.com is shows the A332 with 10DF as 10C/G, I do not think that configuration actually exists. Every A332 I've been on has 10DF - sometimes the the seatmap can look different on reservations. Showing it this way is likely an IT glitch of some sort.

Every A332 I've been on has looked like this:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...0-200-332.html

jr1202sr

thank you the flight info is:



Atlanta, GA to Amsterdam, Netherlands


DATE:

Wed, 26 Jun 2013


FLIGHT:

DL 174


AIRCRAFT:

Airbus Industrie A330-200


I will go with glitch and pick 11G over 10A as that seems to be a good choice hopefully.

I owe you a drink if we cross paths. Thanks. I will be happy to take pictures and or measure the distances of the seats if others will find that helpful.

JBJ2435

Just booked a r/t LAX-JFK for a MR in Oct with a friend. EC is wide open (for now), so I chose the bulkhead middle row aisle seat. Friend is FO on separate PNR, so I called to see if I could get her EC opposite aisle with middle seat empty (again, for now). Didn't think it was possible, but they did it for free! She was going to have to pay $100 upgrade for this, so very happy!

jr1202sr

on the reconfigured:

Flight 119 Copenhagen, Denmark (CPH) to New York-Kennedy, NY (JFK) on Mon, 8 Jul

Is seat 13 C like 17C on the other model 767? Is that the best EC seat to choose. I spent 30 minutes looking and searching and couldn't find an answer.

Thanks!

53flyer

[QUOTE=rwoman;19423976]Hi Everyone,

I flew DL 10 ATL-LHR last night - a couple of days ago they'd swapped a 764 for the 763. As it is a LHR flight, which guarantees lay flat seats in J, I knew it should be the updated 763ER.

Row 17 AB CDE FG was the bulkhead and rows 20 AB FG and 21 AB FG are the exit rows on this a/c.

Thoughts based on experiences on this a/c:

Row 17:
The bulkhead did not seem to have quite as much leg room as before the updates to this a/c. AB and FG looked like they had slightly less leg room than CDE. That said, I think it's still better than the 764.

Flew in 17F a couple of days ago....terrible seat and no way close to what it used to be before the BE mod. I'm 6'-1" and from a fully upright sitting position (legs/feet at a 90 degree angle) I could slide my feet forward about 3" before my feet hit the bulkhead. Any seat in EC would be better than this. 17 CDE had significantly more leg room.

josephstern

Flew HND-LAX recently in an EC exit row seat on an 767-300ER. I think it was row 21.

I must say that the seat was flat out uncomfortable. I'm very glad I didn't pay for this upgrade.

While it might have been better than regular coach, it was clearly not as good as a regular EC seat. I had a ton more legroom - more than I needed, really, and I'm pretty tall. But even with two blankets folded up, the seat cushion was hard as a rock.

I don't think this should be considered EC.

Frankly, I also don't get why an exit row can't have a padded seat.

brocklee9000

I've noticed quite a bit of buzz about bulkhead EC rows on the the 737s, almost all of which seems to be negative. I did a lot of digging since my questions weren't answered, and wanted to pass along my findings for anyone else to benefit as well. Any additional insight or clarification would be nice, as well, especially since the FAQ in the first post lumps all 737s into one paragraph (BTW thanks rwoman for compiling that over the years; I've referenced it many times)

73W: 737-700, AFAIK are equipped with AVOD.
738: 737-800, no AVOD
73H: 737-800, with AVOD

I have a trip next week (29 May) SLC-JFK-ACC and the first segment is on a 73H; also one of my segments on the trip back home is also on a 73H. I've lucked out with Delta ever since the domestic EC rollout and have only been on a non-AVOD 737 once in the past year and a half or so. Anyway. I was originally going to choose a bulkhead seat, 10A, as I have recently become a proponent and user of bulkhead seats. I saw that my plane had AVOD and I tried to find out how far away the PTVs would be on the bulkhead wall. Well, from everything I've gather, it turns out they're not far away. At all. Seatguru gives those seats a solid yellow, and everyone here on FT hates the seats, so I switched over to 11F, a window seat I've often sat in and enjoyed (especially when the middle seat is vacant; crossing my fingers it still will be in a week).
I'll know for sure in a week when I board the flight and take a gander at the distance, but I think I'm fairly certain I won't fly a bulkhead on the 73H. 73W and 738? Probably. And here's why


Seatguru confirms there is only a curtain divider between F and Y on 73W.

Here is seat 10A on a 738 from this trip report.

This pic from this report shows the cramped bulkhead from what I presume is the 73H; 10C and 10D could possibly be decent, if you extend your feet into Y as this gentleman did.

So that's my two cents on the matter. I was confused by pics and reviews of 737 bulkhead conflicting with each other, so I figured I'd back it up with some pics and whatnot. If I got anything wrong or my speculations were wrong, feel free to correct me. In the meantime, I'll keep hoping that 11E remains vacant, and look forward to ample-legroom 16F across the atlantic on a 767.

dtsm

I did a search of this thread but came up empty, apologize if this has been answered in past 3000+ posts.

I used miles to book a RT LGA/ORD, which flies the ERJ. According to seatexpert.com, the only 'better' seats is first row of economy, #5. But according to delta.com site, they're offering economy comfort seats for the first 4-5 rows of economy: $29 each way for these seats plus early boarding.

I've not flown Delta in years....appreciate the help.

rwoman

The first row has the best legroom on the ERJ and many of the commuter jets. The other rows are standard domestic EC - some additional leg room, but no extra recline or free spirits. Whether $29 is worth it is up to you. If it were the bulkhead, it may be worth it, but a "regular" EC seat may or may not be a good value to you.

brocklee9000

The reason that seatguru lists the first row of economy as "better" is because it is a "bulkhead" row, which usually means you some more legroom in front, and not having a seat in front of you that could recline. The other economy comfort rows will have extra legroom as well. Seatguru isn't implying the other two aren't good, only suggesting the first row may be the best of the three rows. How long is that flight, maybe 2 hours? EC seats will cost extra, but probably only $29 on this flight. I would select EC if it's available; a little more space for taller people, first off the plane after F. IIRC the bulkhead is not actually a wall on this plane; also, aren't the overhead bins on the left side a bit smaller?

twohundredfifty

Did you happen to notice where the bassinet locations are on the 777? They're in row 31 I presume but is there only one in the middle, or could there be three (at 31ABC, DEF, and GHJ)? Just trying to plan ahead for a quiet ride in a couple of weeks.