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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by slipbeer
For some reason, my impression of the A330 EC section is that it does not feel like as much extra space as some of the other Delta planes.

Originally Posted by kpfleming
I guess people haven't already realized that Economy Comfort is basically a scam; they don't commit to giving you *anything* in particular. You might get more seat pitch, you might get more seat recline, you might get alcoholic beverages.
I just checked the seat maps of the A330-300 and B767-300ER(76T) on SeatGuru. Apparently, EC is no different than regular economy. In both cases, seat pitch is 31"-32" and seat width 17".



Of course, an exit row seat or bulkhead seat gives you a bit more legroom but that is not necessarily a feature of EC.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
I just checked the seat maps of the A330-300 and B767-300ER(76T) on SeatGuru. Apparently, EC is no different than regular economy. In both cases, seat pitch is 31"-32" and seat width 17".



Of course, an exit row seat or bulkhead seat gives you a bit more legroom but that is not necessarily a feature of EC.
IMO, SeatGuru tends to be outdated when it comes to EC. I've been on both these birds and there was more recline/leg room.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
IMO, SeatGuru tends to be outdated when it comes to EC. I've been on both these birds and there was more recline/leg room.
Meaningless, as 0.000001" more leg room is also "more leg room".
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
Meaningless, as 0.000001" more leg room is also "more leg room".
If my knowledge of EC is so meaningless, you can feel free to sift through post #1 and over 50 pages of this thread that I manage.

Fellow FT'ers and my own experiences provide quite a bit of data.

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great post and thank you
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
If my knowledge of EC is so meaningless, you can feel free to sift through post #1 and over 50 pages of this thread that I manage.

Fellow FT'ers and my own experiences provide quite a bit of data.

In fact, I did. And most posters seem to complain that EC does not live up to the hype.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
In fact, I did. And most posters seem to complain that EC does not live up to the hype.
Well, many of us like it ... much of the disappointment seems to be with domestic EC.
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Hype? Domestic EC is zone 1 boarding and 3-4" more legroom. Add spirits and more recline for international EC. How hard is that to understand?
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Hype? Domestic EC is zone 1 boarding and 3-4" more legroom. Add spirits and more recline for international EC. How hard is that to understand?
+1

And if you're tall, EC is a life saver when the exit row isn't available. It more than doubles the number of seats I can fit in on any plane. Probably not worth paying for domestic EC if you aren't GM or higher, unless you're really tall and the exit row is taken.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
In fact, I did. And most posters seem to complain that EC does not live up to the hype.
Originally Posted by rwoman
Well, many of us like it ... much of the disappointment seems to be with domestic EC.
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Hype? Domestic EC is zone 1 boarding and 3-4" more legroom. Add spirits and more recline for international EC. How hard is that to understand?
Originally Posted by dcline414
+1

And if you're tall, EC is a life saver when the exit row isn't available. It more than doubles the number of seats I can fit in on any plane. Probably not worth paying for domestic EC if you aren't GM or higher, unless you're really tall and the exit row is taken.
As someone who just crossed 100,000 BIS Intl EC miles (it would have been sooner except for some op-ups that got in the way): It was everything as advertised.

I can't comment on DOM EC for I have been UG to F except for the CR1/2's.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Just realized that you referenced the wrong plane for me. I was specifically asking about the NON-PTV, 24F 757... So, it sounds like only 23A and 23F are missing windows on this bird... Can someone confirm?
Sorry for the confusion - I flew both the non-PTV 752 and the PTV 75x on consecutive days. Attempting to post from my phone after a delay spent in the SC was...challenging.

Non-PTV 24F 752 (listed as "Version 1" on Delta.com):
23F missing window.
I believe 23A also missing window, though it may have been 24A as the row number placards were messed up on that side and I was in a hurry. You should continue seeking other confirmation. I have another flight in a couple weeks that looks like it's on that plane and will try to check again, but it's used widely ATL-LGA so hopefully someone else will be able to check before then.

PTV-equipped 75X:
Confirmed 22A/F and 23A/F are missing windows, though the missing windows are lined up with the seatbacks in both rows, and there is one "real" window between two two missing ones, and also in front of the forward missing one. In both these seats, you should still be able to look out, you just might have to lean forward a little to do it.
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Old Jul 23, 2012, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Well, many of us like it ... much of the disappointment seems to be with domestic EC.
I think it's a great benefit. On international whats not to like, more leg room, more recline, free drinks.
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Old Jul 24, 2012, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by dcline414
Well, IMHO that [free movies] was the biggest benefit of paying for EC for FOs and kettles on longer domestic routes. I can't see how anyone would pay $70 for extra legroom and semi-priority boarding.
Why would you pay $70 if you just want the movies, when you can buy them a la carte for much less?
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Old Jul 24, 2012, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by gooselee
Non-PTV 24F 752 (listed as "Version 1" on Delta.com):
23F missing window.
I believe 23A also missing window, though it may have been 24A as the row number placards were messed up on that side and I was in a hurry. You should continue seeking other confirmation. I have another flight in a couple weeks that looks like it's on that plane and will try to check again, but it's used widely ATL-LGA so hopefully someone else will be able to check before then.
Thanks. I totally understand the challenges of posting via mobile.

I am flying on ATL-LGA this Friday and back on Sunday and wanted to see if our 22A/B and 23A/B seats had windows. I really hope they do, but I guess we'll see. I am more concerned with 22A/B having a window. It would be nicer to see NYC upon arrival than departure for us.

Thanks!
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Old Jul 24, 2012, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Thanks. I totally understand the challenges of posting via mobile.

I am flying on ATL-LGA this Friday and back on Sunday and wanted to see if our 22A/B and 23A/B seats had windows. I really hope they do, but I guess we'll see. I am more concerned with 22A/B having a window. It would be nicer to see NYC upon arrival than departure for us.

Thanks!
Eek, sorry I couldn't keep a closer eye in time. I think the further forward you are the better the chances. One more note - as you get back to 23/24 on either side you will start getting the wing/engine in your way for part of the view, too, even when there is a window.

Hope you get a window and a nice view on your trip! The view of Manhattan if you're on the right approach route can be really nice. And even on departure, if the plane banks the right way you can often find yourself staring right down at Central Park. ^
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