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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 3:49 pm
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EC exit rows on 767-300ER?

I am due to travel AMS to SEA return on this craft
https://www.delta.com/planning_reser...00er/index.jsp

I have recently traveled in seats 17A and 16G and in some respects found this better than window seats in Business Class but I think the benefits of these rows have already been covered?

What I can't find in this thread is direct info about the exit rows 20 and 21. I used to only entertain 21 because of limited recline on 20 but more recently when passing these rows it appeared that they had equal recline and that 20 actually has more legroom than 21. Furthermore as one who likes to fully recline I would feel uncomfortable reclining in to row 22 which does not seem to have more legroom or recline than any other econ seat.

Seatguru seems to need updating on this craft and paint 16 and 17 green, so, if it still needs updating, has anyone recently traveled in 20 or 21 and if so what was their experience?

Thanks
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 3:52 pm
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I know there are some missing windows in the EC section of coach on the 24F, non-PTV 757. It used to be 22A, 23A, and 22F, I believe.

Do we know where the missing windows are now with the left side starting at 21ABC?
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Old Jul 17, 2012, 3:57 pm
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Just traveled ATL-PVR (Mexico) on a 738 in EC. Regular seat price one way is $59. The seat (3 behind bulkhead) had similar leg room as exit rows.The seat didn't seem to recline all that far. Actually, it was a bit uncomfortable laying back.
The one plus was the tray tables not on the armrest, so the seat was comfy.
I'd probably choose it over exit, if only for the fast exit to customs.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 5:26 pm
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Help choosing international seat pls on 767 300ER (76U)?

I posted this request in the EC FAQ also but no reply yet and so having a go on here -

I am due to travel AMS to SEA return on a 767 300ER 76U next month and what I can't find on any threads I have searched is direct info about the exit rows 20 and 21. I used to choose row 21 because of limited recline on 20 but more recently when passing these rows it appears that they have equal recline and that 20 actually has more legroom than 21? I like to fully recline in a window seat on the redeye and would feel uncomfortable reclining in to the person behind in row 22 which is not EC and does not seem to have more legroom or recline than any other econ seat.

Seatguru appears to need updating on this craft i.e. paint bulkheads 16 and 17 green, so, if it does still need updating the info about 20 and 21 may also be out of date my question is has anyone recently traveled in 20 or 21 and if so what was their experience?

I'd appreciate a reply ASAP if possible while the exit rows are still available.

Many thanks

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Old Jul 18, 2012, 5:36 pm
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Look at the information in the sticky about EC.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 5:48 pm
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I did try to find the answer on that thread but struggled to find any comments specifically about row 20 as to whether it really is still limited recline or if it has slightly more legroom as it appeared to have to me (but without skytesting them I couldnt really tell).

On my last international flight row 20 was selected long before 21 which confused me given the comments on Seatguru.
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Old Jul 18, 2012, 5:50 pm
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Have you looked at the seat maps on delta.dumb? At least for some aircraft, limited recline seats are marked. If some other seats on your flight are indicated as limited recline, but rows 20 and 21 are not, you should be safe. Do a dummy booking if you can only see the EC seats.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by yoni_one
I am due to travel AMS to SEA return on this craft
https://www.delta.com/planning_reser...00er/index.jsp

I have recently traveled in seats 17A and 16G and in some respects found this better than window seats in Business Class but I think the benefits of these rows have already been covered?

What I can't find in this thread is direct info about the exit rows 20 and 21. I used to only entertain 21 because of limited recline on 20 but more recently when passing these rows it appeared that they had equal recline and that 20 actually has more legroom than 21. Furthermore as one who likes to fully recline I would feel uncomfortable reclining in to row 22 which does not seem to have more legroom or recline than any other econ seat.

Seatguru seems to need updating on this craft and paint 16 and 17 green, so, if it still needs updating, has anyone recently traveled in 20 or 21 and if so what was their experience?

Thanks
Row 20 and 21 tend to be very cold as they are the exit row and the seats are narrower due to the tray table in the armrest. Row 20 may have a bit more leg room than row 21, but I've never measured it.

They have roughly the same recline, although row 21 might be slightly better.

If you really feel uncomfortable with reclining into row 22, then go with row 20.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 9:25 am
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Re 767 300ER EC rows 20 and 21

I believe that is the same plane I flew JFK to CDG last fall. We sat in row 21 A,B. It was cool but not intolerably so. The leg room was luxurious. We had no trouble reclining despite the next row being regular economy. The bathroom traffic was surprisingly tolerable. But - there is always a but isn't there - I personally found the seat itself extremely firm. So firm that I found myself cushioning it with the little pillows they give you. I have seen mention about exit row seats being harder than other seats, but have no idea if this is so. Maybe the whole plane was like that and I am simply super sensitive. But for me it will be a consideration in choosing a row for my planned Venice flight.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 2:38 pm
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Thank you for both answers, this is really helpful to me.
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Old Jul 19, 2012, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
I know there are some missing windows in the EC section of coach on the 24F, non-PTV 757. It used to be 22A, 23A, and 22F, I believe.

Do we know where the missing windows are now with the left side starting at 21ABC?
Flew this plane this morning and was looking for them. Unfortunately, the row number placards were all wonky (two of them were literally touching each other) and I was in a bit of a hurry to get off the plane as I was walking by. But, I believe either 23A or 24A had the missing window, and 23F on the other side.

If it helps at all, it seems that the rows in the new setup are almost perfectly aligned all the way through Y, so 23ABC is directly across from 23DEF (or within a couple inches, at least).
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Old Jul 20, 2012, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by gooselee:18965441
Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
I know there are some missing windows in the EC section of coach on the 24F, non-PTV 757. It used to be 22A, 23A, and 22F, I believe.

Do we know where the missing windows are now with the left side starting at 21ABC?
Flew this plane this morning and was looking for them. Unfortunately, the row number placards were all wonky (two of them were literally touching each other) and I was in a bit of a hurry to get off the plane as I was walking by. But, I believe either 23A or 24A had the missing window, and 23F on the other side.

If it helps at all, it seems that the rows in the new setup are almost perfectly aligned all the way through Y, so 23ABC is directly across from 23DEF (or within a couple inches, at least).
More info. Sitting on the PTV-equipped 75x right now (with the two seat at 19DE by the exit door) and made a point to look. Rows 22 & 23 on both sides are missing windows. The blocked windows are almost in line with the seatbacks for those rows, so you do still have a view kind of where the armrests end (if that makes sense), but would not have one by your head if you recline. 23 is the last row of EC on this parakeet.

Last edited by gooselee; Sep 29, 2012 at 7:13 pm Reason: said "drawbacks" instead of "seatbacks"...grr autocorrect :)
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Old Jul 22, 2012, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by BigFlyer
Economy Comfort has Free Movies....
Free movies SLC to BOS on 7/13/12 but no free movies BOS to SLC on 7/21/12. Guess Delta changed the rules last week since the website now only offers free movies to Business Elite and First class - no mention of EC.
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Old Jul 22, 2012, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by stewart24
Free movies SLC to BOS on 7/13/12 but no free movies BOS to SLC on 7/21/12. Guess Delta changed the rules last week since the website now only offers free movies to Business Elite and First class - no mention of EC.
I have seem this in the flights equipped for international travel (763ER or the 752 used for TATL for example)...cannot comment on free movies for domestic a/c, but would assume EC pax would have to pay.
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Old Jul 22, 2012, 6:53 pm
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Any comments on Economy Comfort on the 74S? I can't find much in this thread or the "747 Interior Mods" thread.

In particular: The promo video shows 115V AC power in EC. Is this true? Even for the bulkhead rows (22 on sides, 24 in middle)? The rest of Y appears to only have USB power.
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