Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: RaflW
Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

************************************************** ***********
************************************************** ***********
On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
************************************************** ***********
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
************************************************** ***********

Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

************************************************** ***********

Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

************************************************** ***********
************************************************** ***********
KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
Print Wikipost

FAQ: Comfort+ Seating

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 9, 2015, 3:02 pm
  #2266  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 1
AMEX gold card offer question

new here... wondering if anyone knows the best way to get the $50 promotional offer if I have already purchased my tickets for my next trip with another cc. flight isn't until april so the 3 months will have past. anyone ever bought the 24 hour wifi in advance and had that count?
Thanks
J
jld0923 is offline  
Old Oct 9, 2015, 3:35 pm
  #2267  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: DL DM 2MM, BA Bronze, Various Hotels
Posts: 10,187
Originally Posted by jld0923
new here... wondering if anyone knows the best way to get the $50 promotional offer if I have already purchased my tickets for my next trip with another cc. flight isn't until april so the 3 months will have past. anyone ever bought the 24 hour wifi in advance and had that count?
Thanks
J
Welcome to FT and the DL forum. As this thread is on Delta's Comfort+ product, I'm not sure your credit card question will yield the information you're looking for.

The flyertalk credit card forum is likely a good place to look as well.
rwoman is offline  
Old Oct 9, 2015, 7:09 pm
  #2268  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: RMS
Programs: DL Plat, UA Gold, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Credit Card Diamond
Posts: 8,789
Originally Posted by rwoman
Welcome to FT and the DL forum. As this thread is on Delta's Comfort+ product, I'm not sure your credit card question will yield the information you're looking for.

The flyertalk credit card forum is likely a good place to look as well.
I might also suggest the American Express forum. They might have a thread on that card. In general, I'd expect anything coded as a Delta purchase to count which would include a wifi pass or a comfort plus seat purchased on delta.com
mattp1987 is offline  
Old Oct 13, 2015, 7:14 am
  #2269  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: Delta Gold, silver, what yr is it?
Posts: 2,417
How common is it for the entire C+ section of an international flight be sold out/unavailable 5 weeks prior to the flight? I'm looking at a trip to Shanghai in Nov, collaborators are buying my tickets so I'm sending them my preferred flights. Outbound DTW-PVG has tons of C+ seats and the pop up to buy them shows up. 3 days later, the return PVG-DTW (flt 582 on Nov 20) shows no C+ available. (Nor any business seats, for that matter, and they're unavailable to buy) Am I just SOL? Once the tickets are purchased and I get my outbound C+ seats on my own (Fingers crossed...) do I just keep watching to see if any become available??
Hoyaheel is offline  
Old Oct 13, 2015, 5:42 pm
  #2270  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Earth. Residency:HKG formerly:YYZ
Programs: CX, DL, Nexus/GE, APEC
Posts: 10,689
Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
How common is it for the entire C+ section of an international flight be sold out/unavailable 5 weeks prior to the flight? I'm looking at a trip to Shanghai in Nov, collaborators are buying my tickets so I'm sending them my preferred flights. Outbound DTW-PVG has tons of C+ seats and the pop up to buy them shows up. 3 days later, the return PVG-DTW (flt 582 on Nov 20) shows no C+ available. (Nor any business seats, for that matter, and they're unavailable to buy) Am I just SOL? Once the tickets are purchased and I get my outbound C+ seats on my own (Fingers crossed...) do I just keep watching to see if any become available??
Nov 20 is the Friday before US Thanks giving. American returning for Thanksgiving or Chinese shopper coming for Black Thursday Night
tentseller is offline  
Old Oct 13, 2015, 6:08 pm
  #2271  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: Delta Gold, silver, what yr is it?
Posts: 2,417
Originally Posted by tentseller
Nov 20 is the Friday before US Thanks giving. American returning for Thanksgiving or Chinese shopper coming for Black Thursday Night
I thought about Thanksgiving but it seemed too early. Ugh. At least there were some regular aisles still left to choose - hopefully I'll be able to....
Hoyaheel is offline  
Old Oct 13, 2015, 6:44 pm
  #2272  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Earth. Residency:HKG formerly:YYZ
Programs: CX, DL, Nexus/GE, APEC
Posts: 10,689
Originally Posted by Hoyaheel
I thought about Thanksgiving but it seemed too early. Ugh. At least there were some regular aisles still left to choose - hopefully I'll be able to....
So when does expats from East Asia fly home for Thanksgiving?
tentseller is offline  
Old Oct 14, 2015, 7:57 am
  #2273  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York, western US
Programs: DM/3MM
Posts: 4,246
rwoman, wasn't this previously a sticky?
TrojanTraveler is offline  
Old Oct 14, 2015, 8:24 am
  #2274  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: DL DM 2MM, BA Bronze, Various Hotels
Posts: 10,187
Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler
rwoman, wasn't this previously a sticky?
Yes, you and I must be seeing the same things about the same time - already PMed a mod asking if the Comfort+ FAQ had been "downgraded."

rwoman is offline  
Old Oct 14, 2015, 8:44 am
  #2275  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: Delta Gold, silver, what yr is it?
Posts: 2,417
Originally Posted by tentseller
So when does expats from East Asia fly home for Thanksgiving?
Not on a Friday when they should be at work? I don't know - I'm an American who usually tries to leave the US for Thanksgiving - I don't pay attention to the travel patterns coming back in. Clearly.
Hoyaheel is offline  
Old Oct 15, 2015, 10:15 am
  #2276  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 2
Hi all - I've been a lurker for a good while here and just made an account as I have a question. Thank you all for the valuable information on this site.

I just purchased a Delta "Preferred" seat on a transcon flight from LAX to JFK, since it was only $35 24 hours before my flight (award ticket). The seat is squarely in the Delta Comfort+ section, but it is a middle seat. Seat 14D on this SeatGuru map.

Will this get me Comfort+ benefits (i.e. free alcohol, better snacks), or did I just buy some extra legroom? FWIW I'm still in boarding zone 2 after the upgrade...

Again, thanks to everyone that participates here.
ooookay is offline  
Old Oct 15, 2015, 12:45 pm
  #2277  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
Originally Posted by ooookay
Hi all - I've been a lurker for a good while here and just made an account as I have a question. Thank you all for the valuable information on this site.

I just purchased a Delta "Preferred" seat on a transcon flight from LAX to JFK, since it was only $35 24 hours before my flight (award ticket). The seat is squarely in the Delta Comfort+ section, but it is a middle seat. Seat 14D on this SeatGuru map.

Will this get me Comfort+ benefits (i.e. free alcohol, better snacks), or did I just buy some extra legroom? FWIW I'm still in boarding zone 2 after the upgrade...

Again, thanks to everyone that participates here.
If Delta calls it a preferred seat, it isn't C+ and shouldn't get C+ benefits (as you see with boarding zone). However, if it's in the middle of C+, the FAs might treat it as C+.
sethb is offline  
Old Oct 16, 2015, 1:44 pm
  #2278  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 24
Originally Posted by ooookay
Hi all - I've been a lurker for a good while here and just made an account as I have a question. Thank you all for the valuable information on this site.

I just purchased a Delta "Preferred" seat on a transcon flight from LAX to JFK, since it was only $35 24 hours before my flight (award ticket). The seat is squarely in the Delta Comfort+ section, but it is a middle seat. Seat 14D on this SeatGuru map.

Will this get me Comfort+ benefits (i.e. free alcohol, better snacks), or did I just buy some extra legroom? FWIW I'm still in boarding zone 2 after the upgrade...

Again, thanks to everyone that participates here.
I have switched the the Comfort+ section for free (I have no status with DL) when they shows up as a regular main cabin seat on domestic flights (usually about 8 hours out or so). I've done this probably 8+ times now and always get drinks and the snack basket, even though I am not technically on a Comfort+ ticket (zone 1 instead of SKY). On a side note I also always seem to get Preferred and Exit Row seats for free now too at the time of booking, even though I don't have status (Alaska Airlines MileagePlan attached, but no status with AS either).
surehit49 is offline  
Old Oct 16, 2015, 4:16 pm
  #2279  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
Originally Posted by surehit49
I have switched the the Comfort+ section for free (I have no status with DL) when they shows up as a regular main cabin seat on domestic flights (usually about 8 hours out or so). I've done this probably 8+ times now and always get drinks and the snack basket, even though I am not technically on a Comfort+ ticket (zone 1 instead of SKY). On a side note I also always seem to get Preferred and Exit Row seats for free now too at the time of booking, even though I don't have status (Alaska Airlines MileagePlan attached, but no status with AS either).
If you're in a C+ seat, you get C+ benefits whether or not you paid for it (on a full flight, they're going to put somebody there).

The question was whether some seats that appear to be Preferred (not C+) on a map are actually C+, because they're in the middle of the C+ section.
sethb is offline  
Old Oct 16, 2015, 4:45 pm
  #2280  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 24
Originally Posted by sethb
If you're in a C+ seat, you get C+ benefits whether or not you paid for it (on a full flight, they're going to put somebody there).

The question was whether some seats that appear to be Preferred (not C+) on a map are actually C+, because they're in the middle of the C+ section.
I understood, the situation I was talking about was when it shows a random seat as "Main Cabin" (similar to him referencing a seat showing up at Preferred in the middle of the C+ section).

Like seat 16B in this screenshot from my flight that I'm boarding right now:


surehit49 is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.