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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 8:53 am
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 11:42 am
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Hi all!

In a few months I'm flying on DL 66 from ATL to ZRH. It appears that I'm on a 767-300ER-G, and I'm considering EC. I'm planning on sleeping through the flight, but SeatGuru seems to indicate that the only remaining window EC seat (19G) has limited recline. Does anyone know how limited that recline might be?

If it's really poor, 20A and 20G (Not EC) are also options...anyone had experience with them?

THANKS!
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 12:30 pm
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I booked seat 31A on a 777 for a 13hour flight, does the door protrude outward hindering the legroom? I probably wouldn't mind this if it was like 7-8 hours but it may get annoying after 13. Should I take one of the isle seats to avoid this?
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 12:32 pm
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Row 31 is not an exit row on the 777, so no door comes into play. It is the bulkhead directly behind BusinessElite.
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Old Feb 13, 2012, 2:21 pm
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Sleepin' in EC vs. economy on 767-300ER

Taking overnight flight from MSP to AMS, and I'd like the extra room of the EC seats, but I also am a freak of nature who can't sleep lying on my back. I have to plunk my head on my tray table like it's a pillow and do my best upright fetal position. Sad, I know. So, does anyone know if the tray tables pull forwards towards you normally, or are they stuck far away from you? Someone mentioned that the vestigial seatback tray tables in the exit EC rows don't pull out. thanks!
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Old Feb 15, 2012, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by saltyseas
Taking overnight flight from MSP to AMS, and I'd like the extra room of the EC seats, but I also am a freak of nature who can't sleep lying on my back. I have to plunk my head on my tray table like it's a pillow and do my best upright fetal position. Sad, I know. So, does anyone know if the tray tables pull forwards towards you normally, or are they stuck far away from you? Someone mentioned that the vestigial seatback tray tables in the exit EC rows don't pull out. thanks!
I had a flight SLC-CDG on the 767-300 last Friday, and I can tell you that the fold-out tray tables for EC bulkhead seats are VERY close in. I don't have a gut, but it was right there. I imagine if you're looking to sleep leaning forward these bulkhead seats would work well. The traytable in the armrest did narrow the seat a little, which I don't mind, but the seat cushion got quite uncomfortable after a few hours. I can't speak for the other rows.
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Old Feb 17, 2012, 2:08 am
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Lightbulb 764 - Difference between EC and a regular Y seat

Good morning from N842MH.

It's a bit hard to tell, but there IS a difference between EC and regular Y.

EC - 15C:



EC - 18G:



Economy - 24G:


Last edited by rwoman; Feb 17, 2012 at 2:10 am Reason: Added 15E pic
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Old Feb 17, 2012, 3:10 am
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I sat in EC from from JFK-TLV Monday night, and it was magical. I slept for 9 hours. Additional recline was great.

I sat in the middle section on the 747 Seat 24E (Yes a middle seat, my dad wanted an aisle and I figured I could care less)


Only complaint - two middle seats in the middle row share space under the seat in front.

Basically highly recommended and glad I don't have to pay $125 for the seat for myself or family members. Would consider doing an MR if I am close to plat again just for this benefit.
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Old Feb 17, 2012, 9:45 am
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Do we know when DL will be doing EC seats on non-BE domestic 757?
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Old Feb 18, 2012, 4:26 am
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EC legroom with seat reclined

Hello. Here is one more pic from 18F yesterday. This is the space with 17F fully reclined.

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Old Feb 18, 2012, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Do we know when DL will be doing EC seats on non-BE domestic 757?
I'm sure we will start seeing EC show up at some point, although there wil not be an official announcement until they're all done.
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Old Feb 18, 2012, 2:34 pm
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Figured I'd throw my recent EC experience in here with the 777. Flew seat 34D LA-SYD and 31A on SYD-LA.

The flight to SYD was packed and I lucked out that the guy sitting in 34E had amazing control over his bladder. Not sure about other planes but when the seats on the 777 recline, they actually slide forward a bit. So you're not making this massive invasion of the space for row 35. There is power in all four rows located beneath and between the seats. I didn't need to make use of it though. So I have no idea just how much juice you can expect out of it.

The flight back from SYD wasn't packed and I was originally supposed to be in 32D. I got to the airport early and before they even opened the check-in desk, I was able to move my seat to 31A. This turned out to be a very good move on my part!

There is a ton of legroom for row 31 which is great if you're in 31ABCGHI. This isn't so great if you're in 31DEF. If you're in A or I, you can still very easily get out to the aisle without feeling like you just climbed all over everyone. If you're in DEF, you will likely be used as a passageway for those walking laps. Yes, there is a decent amount of space but just by sheer odds, you will have people stepping on you from the looks of things.

The IFE for row 31 swings up from under the armrest for whoever was asking and it is somewhat adjustable. I didn't find it too big of a problem but I had a really good seatmate in 31C to talk to so I didn't have to use it much. 31B was empty and 31C and I made good use of this empty space by opening that tray up once we got airborne and left it that way. We only needed to use our tray tables for the actual meals. Can't say that I noticed the seat being any narrower but I'm pretty trim.

Added recline was very much appreciated and I definitely noticed it. The seats on the 777 do have extending headrests for whoever brought that up. The leg room was noticeable when I was in 34D. The addition of liquor was nice. I can't say I'm all that crazy about the choice of "beers" and wines on Delta. In true FT fashion, I made my best effort to drain the plane of Woodfords. I even got my seatmate on the ride back to join me in my effort. The plane turned out to be VERY well stocked though. (Note: If you're a nice, friendly and outgoing person who can hold their liquor very well, the flight attendants didn't seem to mind continuously slinging them out any time they came by. All the crews seemed very nice to me. I really wish I had status and had fists full of those job well done certs I keep hearing about.)

Er, that's all I can think of for now.
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Old Feb 19, 2012, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
Do we know when DL will be doing EC seats on non-BE domestic 757?
FWIW, my wife sat in a new domestic EC seat LAX-ATL last week.
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 8:12 am
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Just flew ATL-MDW on an A319... Nothing indicated EC was available when I booked the flight or when I changed my seat to the bulkhead during check-in, but it was already reconfigured with rows 1-3 for FC and rows 4-6 for EC (red row numbers on the overhead bins rather than blue everywhere else).

Perhaps the best part of the EC rollout on the Airbuses is that no one had to double over when boarding to see those old dumbly positioned row numbers!
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Old Feb 20, 2012, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by dcline414
Just flew ATL-MDW on an A319... Nothing indicated EC was available when I booked the flight or when I changed my seat to the bulkhead during check-in, but it was already reconfigured with rows 1-3 for FC and rows 4-6 for EC (red row numbers on the overhead bins rather than blue everywhere else).

Perhaps the best part of the EC rollout on the Airbuses is that no one had to double over when boarding to see those old dumbly positioned row numbers!
Was EC available on both sides? I've seen EC only on the port side of the aircraft on my TATL 757s, and I'm curious as to how the domestic EC rollout depends on the metal.
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