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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jul 7, 2013, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Guerejo
Wondering what everyone's thoughts are between these rows for two people flying together?? ... Row 16 is bulkhead but we'd have someone else sharing, Row 20 is exit and we'd be alone but Delta site says there's limited recline? Some flyers have said row 20 has regular EC recline so I'm not sure. Happy to hear what you'd choose it's for SEA-CDG Thanks!
My advice has always boiled down to this: are you more of a bulkhead flyer or an exit row flyer? 16CDE will have more legroom, no floor storage during takeoff, and tray tables in the arm rest. 20FG also will. One thing to take into consideration is that the bulkhead rows will have the monitor mounted right on the wall there, so I always take an eye shade to sleep, so that's the only real downside I can see those seats. The only real drawback to row 20 is that it is right next to the lavs, and some people report that exit rows are a little bit colder. So they each have their advantages and disadvantages. As far as sitting together, if you were to get the bulkhead, as long as you had CD or DE you'll be alright. And as to the recline, it is marked as a limited recline, but as is discussed in this thread (somewhere, but not sure where exactly), it is an EC row so they still had to incorporate recline. Some have reported no difference, others have said that there may be slightly restricted recline but not really noticeable (keep in mind that the extra is only 50% beyond regular economy recline, and the oft-touted sentiment is "50% extra of nothing is nothing").
So pick your poison; some people prefer exit rows, some bulkheads. I'm a bulkhead guy, but that's just my own personal preference.
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Old Jul 10, 2013, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
Yes, the monitor is right in front of AB CDE FG, mounted on the bulkhead wall. I thought I had a picture of it, but I can't find one, so I'll link to the seatmap on dl.com and you can see. http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...er-76g-ss.html
And yes, there is a lav on each side for Y. On each side, the bulkhead is the wall for a small closet, and then next to the closet is a lav. I flew on a 76G in 15A a few weeks ago. I wasn't bothered by the monitor or passengers using the lavs. I used a good eyeshade when I slept (it was an overnight TATL), and since I was sleeping most of the flight, I don't know how often people got up to relieve themselves. For the portions that I was awake, I noticed a lot of people crossing through the space in front of 15 CDE, so I would recommend against those seats (but it looks like you're looking at FG, which I would recommend).
Following up with my recent experience flying the 76G in EC.

On the outbound we were in 15FG. There is a bathroom in front of this, but it is blocked off by a curtain, as it is for BE. As a result, these seats generally don't get bothered by lav traffic and people waiting in line. However, because of this, and since there is a lav in front of 15AB, there was a lot (surprisingly a lot) of traffic/people walking in front of 14CDE to get to the other side. On each flight the people in this row were continually disturbed. I would recommend that people not take these seats.

On the return, due to aircraft swaps (handled badly by DL), we finally ended up in 15AB. 15A is fine, and similar to 15G, you can easily get up from the window seat without disturbing the person in the aisle seat next to you. There was lav traffic, but it wasn't bad, and 15B wasn't a bad seat (and you get the same ton of legroom you get in 14CDE and 15FG), but the eyeshade recommendation is a good one.
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Old Jul 10, 2013, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler
Following up with my recent experience flying the 76G in EC.

On the outbound we were in 15FG. There is a bathroom in front of this, but it is blocked off by a curtain, as it is for BE. As a result, these seats generally don't get bothered by lav traffic and people waiting in line. However, because of this, and since there is a lav in front of 15AB, there was a lot (surprisingly a lot) of traffic/people walking in front of 14CDE to get to the other side. On each flight the people in this row were continually disturbed. I would recommend that people not take these seats.

On the return, due to aircraft swaps (handled badly by DL), we finally ended up in 15AB. 15A is fine, and similar to 15G, you can easily get up from the window seat without disturbing the person in the aisle seat next to you. There was lav traffic, but it wasn't bad, and 15B wasn't a bad seat (and you get the same ton of legroom you get in 14CDE and 15FG), but the eyeshade recommendation is a good one.
That's interesting, as I had a slightly different experience. Outbound was a 76U, so I had 16F (FG are great seats). Back home, it was a 76G. I had 15A. There were lavs in front of AB and FG, but there is a closet that is actually between the lavs and the bulkhead. And for our flight, both the lavs were being used for Y. And yes, yes, yes. That bulkead CDE row on 76Gs...avoid avoid avoid. It seems like there's more room on that bulkhead than the 76U, but it could have just been my perspective. Anyway, people would come up the left aisle, see the line for the lav was three people deep, and CROSS OVER IN THE BULKHEAD LEGROOM to the right aisle. People sometimes...
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Old Jul 11, 2013, 4:01 pm
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I've got a couple of flights coming up on a refurbished 767 in seat 17A (EC Bulkhead) and was curious as to the position of the personal tv screen. Is it situated in the armrest or on the bulkhead wall?

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Old Jul 11, 2013, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Y29M
I've got a couple of flights coming up on a refurbished 767 in seat 17A (EC Bulkhead) and was curious as to the position of the personal tv screen. Is it situated in the armrest or on the bulkhead wall?

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Not of 17A, but on this one it was on the wall - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19423976 - I know the link reads as the FAQ, but should take you to the right post with pics.
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Old Jul 12, 2013, 2:39 am
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Not of 17A, but on this one it was on the wall - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19423976 - I know the link reads as the FAQ, but should take you to the right post with pics.
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Old Jul 14, 2013, 12:59 am
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Need HELP!
My 747-400's on my trip to BKK has been changed 5 times since last December. Now, I am on a Boeing 767-300ER (76H/76Z) in Bulkhead seat 13G. Have these seats changed? Now, DL is telling me on the BKK--->NRT and NRT-->SFO legs there is NO AVOD in "Y"! Does anyone know if 13G is like the domestic 767 where there is very little room for someone over 6'? PLEASE help!
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Old Jul 23, 2013, 6:37 am
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767-300ER/76G EC Bulkhead Question
I'm flying JFK to CDG in late august on a 767-300ER/76G EC in bulkhead seats 14c/14d. Does anyone know how limited/ample the legroom situation is in those middle aisle bulkhead seats?

Would it be wiser to sit a row back in 15c/15d
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Old Jul 23, 2013, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by Freethinker01
I'm flying JFK to CDG in late august on a 767-300ER/76G EC in bulkhead seats 14c/14d. Does anyone know how limited/ample the legroom situation is in those middle aisle bulkhead seats?

Would it be wiser to sit a row back in 15c/15d
I posted about this in a few posts up on July 10 on my recent flight on the 76G.. Net, lots of leg room, and lots of people walking in front of you. I would personally avoid.
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Old Jul 23, 2013, 7:40 am
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Thank you!
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Old Jul 23, 2013, 10:54 am
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I have a trip to ICN coming up next month. ATL-DTW-ICN and am booked in an M fare. I was under the impression that M fares get free EC but when I try to pick a seat in EC it tells me "passenger is not eligible for this seat". Am I missing something? Also when I try to buy an EC seat for DTW-GRU booked in U class it gives me the same message instead of asking me to pay. Am I missing something?
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Old Jul 23, 2013, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Acornragazzo
I have a trip to ICN coming up next month. ATL-DTW-ICN and am booked in an M fare. I was under the impression that M fares get free EC but when I try to pick a seat in EC it tells me "passenger is not eligible for this seat". Am I missing something? Also when I try to buy an EC seat for DTW-GRU booked in U class it gives me the same message instead of asking me to pay. Am I missing something?
On am M fare it should be free - https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...omparison.html

I would call DL.
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 1:01 pm
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Question on Seat to Choose:

Delta 70:

Airbus A330-200

Jfk-Amsterdam

10 B or 11C

I flew in 11C before and LOVEd the legroom, but constantly got "hit" by the cart as the Flyattendants would blindly run over my legs with their carts. Happened Several times. I for the life of me can't remember what the legroom was like in 10B. How close is the wall to the seat? Can you fully extend your legs?


My other option would be to fly in 21B on a refurb Delta 174:

Boeing 767-300. Any suggestions? Price and times are about the same. Really just looking for the most comfortable flight. I am big and over 6 feet tall so more space for the legs is huge for me. Sadly Business is 5x the price for the same ticket so I can't pull that off.
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 1:18 pm
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Found this picture I took an looks like I answered "part" of my own question. From this picture of me in 11G it doesn't look like 10H has much room. This was me on Delta 238: Airbus A330-200 recently ATL-Jax for future reference if anyone wants a picture.
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Old Jul 27, 2013, 8:22 pm
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EC on International
Hi everyone -

I've read through this thread, but didn't find the information that I am seeking. I'm flying from Seattle to Beijing and back on a 767-300er and am going to upgrade to EC. I have two options, any seat in row 16 (middle row, bulkhead) or a EC window seat.

My question is, how much legroom will I have if I choose the row 16 option? Will I lose some due to the bulkhead? I'm curious because there are no other seats in row 16 besides the center 3.

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