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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Nov 11, 2013, 4:12 pm
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Another thing to consider is the potential availability of EC during the 24 hour checkin period. This coming Saturday, I'll be on a CR9 to BDL and, even with less than 4 days till departure, I'm still the only one in the EC section. Other flights can get filled up quickly, since literally anyone can buy it at the time of ticketing (or afterward). I'm traveling with my family during the holidays, and the EC sections are already mostly full on our flights, so I secured them for us by paying the discounted FO rates (I was still FO at the time).

Of course, there is the likelihood of a few complimentary upgrades on one or more of the segments, but even if that frees up some more EC seats, it's likely that they'd be sporadic, not clustered together. I would weigh the cost/benefits of each choice. Depending on the routing, each segment could likely be $15 to $50 with the FO discount.
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Old Nov 12, 2013, 9:04 am
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To SAT Lawyer -- might not be too many EC seats available at T-24. As has been said, pay attention as people jostle for SDC, etc. However, it's likely that many of the HI flyers aren't switching around, and that the EC seats will be gone well before T-24. I'd buy them outright if you want them, or wait and see if gate upgrades are being sold...
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Old Nov 15, 2013, 10:50 am
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I promise I have tried to find this...

Three options left for my flight EWR to CDG which is on a 767 300 (appears to be 76L configuration). Options are 19b, 19c and 20b.
20 is an exit row but so is 21. So on 19b and 20b is there any recline. Is it dramatically less then 19c? I have 19c now but.....
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Old Nov 15, 2013, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by OrangeCountyCommuter
I promise I have tried to find this...

Three options left for my flight EWR to CDG which is on a 767 300 (appears to be 76L configuration). Options are 19b, 19c and 20b.
20 is an exit row but so is 21. So on 19b and 20b is there any recline. Is it dramatically less then 19c? I have 19c now but.....
There will be some recline in 19B and 20B, but it will probably be less than 19C.
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Old Nov 15, 2013, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
There will be some recline in 19B and 20B, but it will probably be less than 19C.
Thanks!
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 11:28 am
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Sorry to necrothread but I was wondering if the EC bulkhead seats (4A-D) on these have the immovable armrests? I would rather be in row 5 if they do. Not the smallest guy.


****EDIT****

Found some pics on the forums. Looks like it is indeed the case! Row 5 window it is!
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Old Nov 18, 2013, 4:55 pm
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757-200 35f

I am flying JFK-SFO in a couple of days and it looks like 35F is available. Seatguru says that this is normally a place for crew rest on international flights and has a leg rest. My guess is that this is more legroom and less recline. I searched the thread but could not find a mention.

Anyone have experience? Better than the regular EC?
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Old Nov 19, 2013, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by pjs91015
I am flying JFK-SFO in a couple of days and it looks like 35F is available. Seatguru says that this is normally a place for crew rest on international flights and has a leg rest. My guess is that this is more legroom and less recline. I searched the thread but could not find a mention.

Anyone have experience? Better than the regular EC?
See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...able-tatl.html
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Old Nov 27, 2013, 9:21 am
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Best EC Seat Options on 767-400 DTW-LHR

Taking my family of five to London. EC seat map is totally empty. Always tempted to take bulkhead row 15, but hear many negative comments. We definitely enjoy a few cocktails (as a sleep aid of course), so EC seems like better option than an ER. Currently in row 17, but have a blank seat map with which to work. My sons and I are over 6' so we do put a premium on leg room. Thoughts?
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Old Nov 27, 2013, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by DTWNate
Taking my family of five to London. EC seat map is totally empty. Always tempted to take bulkhead row 15, but hear many negative comments. We definitely enjoy a few cocktails (as a sleep aid of course), so EC seems like better option than an ER. Currently in row 17, but have a blank seat map with which to work. My sons and I are over 6' so we do put a premium on leg room. Thoughts?
If you're over 6', do not take row 15!!!

All other EC seats on the 764 are pretty much equal. There are entertainment boxes under the A, D, E, and G seats that will impact foot space to some degree.
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Old Nov 30, 2013, 9:15 pm
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Dl 64 atl-man 76l

Hi there, looking for some advice.

ATL-MAN DL64 (23rd Jan) a/c is an upgraded 76L by the looks of things - booked into economy comfort in 16E (bulkhead) - but seatguru warns that legroom is limited. How bad is it? I'm 6' tall, if this helps - "vanilla" EC (non bulkhead, exit row) seats are open at the mo, wondering if I should change.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by pablosavage
Hi there, looking for some advice.

ATL-MAN DL64 (23rd Jan) a/c is an upgraded 76L by the looks of things - booked into economy comfort in 16E (bulkhead) - but seatguru warns that legroom is limited. How bad is it? I'm 6' tall, if this helps - "vanilla" EC (non bulkhead, exit row) seats are open at the mo, wondering if I should change.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
Paul,

I flew the 76L ATL-LHR last night (was in 21G). Row 16CDE still has very good leg room.
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Paul,

I flew the 76L ATL-LHR last night (was in 21G). Row 16CDE still has very good leg room.
I agree. It seems like the 763s that I've seen after the refurb still have really good legroom; there might have been a few inches lost overall, but what's a few inches off two feet, right? rwoman, is it safe to say that the international 763s in general have good bulkhead legroom, but it's the 764s that dont?
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
I agree. It seems like the 763s that I've seen after the refurb still have really good legroom; there might have been a few inches lost overall, but what's a few inches off two feet, right? rwoman, is it safe to say that the international 763s in general have good bulkhead legroom, but it's the 764s that dont?
Absolutely! 763ER bulkhead seats are fare superior to the 764!

The IFE is also better on the 763ERs with the new screens - screen size, clarity, options, and functionality were much improved over the older system on the 764. I'll post photos from last night once I get them uploaded!

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Old Dec 1, 2013, 2:19 pm
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The two version of 763 EC bulkhead are good legroom, row 13 or 16 depending on the version.
764 with row 15 I would stay away from.
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