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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:

C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
Sky Priority boarding
Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
~~Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™~~ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:

On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.

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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:

dl.com seat map: 747-400
Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
Legroom:
Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
Related Threads and Posts:
EC Bulkheads on the 74S
Economy Comfort on 747-400
The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772

dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
Legroom:
Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Related Threads and Posts:
Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
My pictures of row 31 - LINK
777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:

dl.com seat maps: A333 / A3L3
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
  NOTE: All of the A330-300s have been modified or are in the process of being modified.
Legroom:
- A333 - 10 AB and 10HJ have a bulkhead/galley in front of them.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Related Threads and Posts:
JulienMSP's comments on A330 EC: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...der-767-a.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Economy Comfort on A330-300s?
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread [Merged Threads]
tentseller's review of the A333 - LINK.
kpfleming's thoughts on EC (dis)comfort (A333) - LINK
rwoman's picture of 10J (A333) - LINK
c_d's pictures of 11J and the entertainment box that impedes legroom (A333) - LINK
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?

A330-200 / A332:

dl.com seat maps: A332 / A3L2
- A332: C+ is rows 10-13
Legroom:
- A332 - Row 10 and row 11 C/G have ample legroom.
- A3L2 - Row 10 is the bulkhead row. The J cabin is on the other side of the bulkhead.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Related Threads and Posts:
nabilm92's Trip Report on the A332, including row 10 HJ and pics of EC - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...e-sea-hkg.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
c_d's pictures of 11D and 11F and the entertainment boxes that impede legroom (A332) - LINK; comments on 11D and 11F (A332) - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on 11C and 11G, which have excellent leg room and row 10. Also row 11 has moveable armrests across the row (A332) - LINK

767-400 / 764 / 76D:

dl.com seat map: LINK
C+ is rows 15-18
Legroom:
On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
Related Threads and Posts:
Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T

dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
- 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
- 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
- 76L - Rows 16-21
- 76T - Rows 17-21
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
Legroom:
The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:

dl.com - 757-200 (75S)
44 C+ Seats - Rows 18-25
NOTE: There is a slide on the exit row door in front of 19A that can impede legroom. There is no window at row 22.
Legroom: Rows 19 and 18 are the bulkhead seats.
IFE: All Y seats have AVOD. Movies are complimentary in EC
Related Posts and Threads:
757-200 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
757s
When will the transcon 757-200 BE lie flat's be ready?

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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q

dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
C+ is rows 10-14
Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
Related Threads and Posts:
gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:

dl.com: 757-300 / 753
C+ is rows 14-18
IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and ISP
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related Threads and Posts for the 753s:
The Official Delta 757-300 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
lamont2718's feedback regarding restricted legroom in 16DEF: LINK
14A/B on the 757-300
757-300 seat 14A any good?

757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.

757/75U:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
  C+ is rows 21-23 ABC and 19-22 DEF.
- IFE:
  This a/c has overhead screens.
- Related Threads and Posts:
  Why no EC Seat in bulkhead of 757? Can't find answer on seat guru
75D/H:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
  C+ is rows 15-20 ABC and 15-16; 18-20 DEF
- IFE:
  This a/c has AVOD and ISP
- Related Threads and Posts:
  None
75G:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75G
- IFE:
  None
- Related Threads and Posts:
  None
75X:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
  EC is rows 20-23 ABC and 19-23 DEF
- IFE:
  This a/c has PTVs and power ports.
- Related Threads and Posts:
  http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...tter-seat.html
  75X Y exit row best
  Every1 Get A Life's feedback on the 75X overwing exits - LINK
  gooslee's feedback on PTV equipped 75X's - LINK and LINK
  gooselee's feedback on row 23 on the 75X - LINK

737-900ER / 739

dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power.
Legroom:
The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
Related Threads and Posts:
twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:

737-800 / 738:
- dl.com:
- 737-800 / 738
  C+ is rows 10-15
- IFE:
  This a/c has overhead video.
- Legroom:
  Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
- Related Threads and Posts:
  T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
  lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK

737-800 / 73H:
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
  C+ is rows 10-12.
- IFE:
  This a/c has PTVs.
- Legroom:
  Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
- Related Threads and Comments:
  None

737-700 / 73W:

dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
C+ is rows 10-12.
IFE:
This a/c has PTVs.
Legroom:
Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:

dl.com: MD-88 / M88
C+ is rows 10-14
IFE:
None
Legroom:
Row 10 has very good legroom.
Related Threads and Posts:
javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90

dl.com: M-90 / M90
C+ is rows 10-14.
IFE:
This a/c is equipped with ISP in rows 10-12 only
Legroom:
There is a soft wall in front of row 10. 10C is not necessarily recommended due to the aisle shift between the F and Y cabins. Reviews of room for row 13, the first regular row of Y have been acceptable.
Related Threads and Posts:
Misconfigured C+ seating on certain MD-90 aircraft
Seat 10C on the MD-90 - why does it even exist??
MD-90 Aircraft: The Definitive Thread
MD-90 Economy bulkhead

717:

dl.com: 717
C+ is Rows 10-12
IFE:
None
Legroom:
Related Threads and Posts:
Boeing 717: The Definitive Thread
mattp1987's photos of the 717 - LINK

A321-200:

dl.com: A321
C+ is rows 10-14
IFE:
PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
Legroom:
RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
Related threads and posts:
None

A320-200 / 32R:

dl.com: A320/32R
C+ is rows 4-6
IFE:
None
Legroom:
No additional comments

A320-200/32K

dl.com: A320 / 32K
C+ is rows 10-12
IFE:
None
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related threads and posts:
None

A319-100/319

dl.com: A319 / 319
C+ is rows 4-6
IFE:
None
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related Threads and posts:
akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J

dl.com: A319 / 31J
C+ is rows 10-12
IFE:
This a/c is equipped with AVOD
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related Threads and posts:
None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True

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Dec 12, 2013, 11:03 am

#1591

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Originally Posted by wpxstar

Excellent- thank you for finding this layout. I'll give it a look over tonight to see any pros/cons with those first few rows in EC. I'm thinking the bulkhead on that version isn't that great due to its proximity to the lav and the exit. Ok seatguru, time for a new 767 to list!

I haven't had the opportunity yet, unfortunately, to be on any of the reconfigured 763s (I always get stuck with the old ones, but by the end of the month, never again!). However, the bulkhead, especially on the AB and FG sides, tend to be very generous with legroom (the 764s are not very generous). Even CDE should be decent, but with the space between the row and the bulkhead, people tend to walk through and stand in that area, especially during boarding and when in the queue for the lav. The only concern I would have with AB or FG is with the AVOD. Since I haven't been able to ride one of these yet, I don't know if the screen is mounted to the bulkhead wall (which would be a comical distance away, and would literally require you to unbuckle, walk over, and use the touchscreen), or if it is the kind that swivels out from the arm rest. Hopefully someone else who reads this has seen it/used it and can comment.

Dec 12, 2013, 11:58 am

#1592

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Originally Posted by hoteltravelfun

HI I haven't flown in a year. I have a flight in Jan. 18 on Delta, JFk to Amsterdam. I see there are some seats which are called preferred. I have seat in row 37, in front of the bathrooms at the moment i have all 3 others blank. I keep shifting around to get my own 3 or 4 seats. So i have moved back about 10 rows. The new thing for me is the preferred seats and also some other seats you can pay for. The preferred are $40. They are rows 22-27. the middle is not charged but its the middle. I see some people are talking the free middle seat. I can still do this. My question is, does the airlines give these seats as some kind of complimentary to passengers for some reason? the aisle and window paid ones I mean. Would you take a chance that you can get all 3? Because I have moderately bad back and any lie down I can do is a tremendous help. I am thinking in worst cases, I have my aisle in 37. Or would you wait till game time and see if there is still those free preferred, but the question would still be there, do they hand them out ? On the other side I am willing to pay $40 for a real preferred if I am assured of all 3.

Now another question i have is. i see there is a seat in 21 that is free and next to 2 extra charge seats, extrra legroom, they are charging 96$ for the aisle and middle, but the window is free. Now, this is the exit row. Can I assume the free window seat there also has extra leg room? is there any reason to not take it? currently the other 2 are not taken. Even if they get taken I think I am better off. If i look at the diagram there is room in front. I am not checking on seat guru because they never have the exact configuration as what the airline shows me.

The free window seat in row 21 in economy comfort may be free because the exit row door has a projection (for the emergency slide) that reduces the legroom in front of that seat. Someone has already mentioned that the armrest may also be small and uncomfortable.

As has been stated before, you should select the best single seat you can find and not try to plan to have a full row to yourself. The seemingly empty seats in a row can fill up quickly and may even be assigned at the gate shortly before departure.

Dec 12, 2013, 12:02 pm

#1593

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarmenOM

On the 763, I'm pretty sure there's not a slide in the over wing exit doors at rows 20 and 21...just flew back to LHR in 21G on the 763 two weeks ago. Pics were posted and are linked in Post #1.

Dec 12, 2013, 12:29 pm

#1594

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Originally Posted by rwoman

On the 763, I'm pretty sure there's not a slide in the over wing exit doors at rows 20 and 21...just flew back to LHR in 21G on the 763 two weeks ago. Pics were posted and are linked in Post #1.

That was just a guess on my part. I actually haven't figured out which AC that poster is describing. S/he talks about exit row 21 as a three-seat row on the side, with the window seat free but the other two EC. I haven't searched all the options but nothing pops into my mind that meets that description.

Dec 12, 2013, 4:50 pm

#1595

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CarmenOM

I did some head scratching, but couldn't find anything that matched. My first thought was an A330, especially since it's JFK-AMS. Then I went back and saw the post stating the date (18 Jan) and searched. There's only one non-stop, on an A333 (the one with the lie flats in J). There is a row 21 on that flight's seatmap that is labeled as limited recline, but it's not an exit row. Some of the seats in row 21 are blue preferred seat. But I can't find anything else that matches up with OPs description: there are two people in 37AB, there are no sections of 3 seats except for in the very back of the plane, and row 21 is not an exit row.

Dec 12, 2013, 5:04 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brocklee9000

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarmenOM

I wonder if maybe OP is on a DL-coded flight that is actually AF/KL metal with some other config and purchaseable aisle/window seats? I almost never fly TATL from NY so I have no idea if such flights or seat options even exist, but I%2

Dec 12, 2013, 5:04 pm

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Oh, jk. I found it. Scrolled way to the bottom of the page and saw a KLM codeshare leaving at 10:50PM. I checked it also on klm.com and it matches up. Looks like OP is on the 747 combi, which is KLM 644 (DL codeshare 9347). Row 21 is an exit row, and KLM seatmaps show 21A and 21K as standard economy seats, whereas 21BC and 21HJ are "seats with extra legroom" available at exit rows.

KLM shows most of the preferred and all the extra room seats available, but DL.com has blocked all the preferred seat (A C H K of rows 22 through 27, and all of Row 21). Also, an interesting little quirk: when searching for flights and viewing the seatmap in the popup window, it showed a seat 21D as available (but can't possibly be a real seat, as that's where the staircase should be). When I tried to make a dummy booking, and then logged in, dl.com then allowed me to choose a seat but this mysterious 21D is now occupied (or blocked)

I'm willing to bet OP booked a KLM ticket, as I can only select these seats from klm.com (DL won't show them whether I'm logged in or not).

Dec 12, 2013, 5:11 pm

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Dec 17, 2013, 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by brocklee9000

Ok, just flew the 76Z version 2 on JFK-DUB and 76Z version 1 on the return. Summary of both:

Version 2 with the lavs up between rows 12 and 13 is HORRIBLE. Avoid the forward rows in EC if you are on this layout. First of all, less than half the EC rows actually have usable windows. Its either you get 2 good windows or 1 which is positioned right by the headrest which is bad for sleeping or just viewing. 2nd obvious problem is the lav location which has heavy traffic since the other Y lav in is the far aft. Also, the doors have a heavy bang to ensure proper closure which I was guilty of doing even trying to be sensitive to this issue. Row 12 is very bad with no window and LOTS of people lingering for the lav. Row 13 is good having 2 full windows and mild privacy with no CDE seats next by- but being close to lav is still a big minus. Row 14 is bad with no window (headrest). 15, no window - shared with headrest window from row 14. Row 16 is the most desirable EC seat on the 76Z version 2 being that it is farthest from the lav and having 2 full windows.

For the 76Z version 1- the EC rows on this plane are excellent. The bulkheads are indeed the very best due to no bathrooms nearby, 2 full windows, and a very large amount of foot space. It is true that the tv is a reach but one does not need to unbuckle and get up to use it. Now if you plan to play games the whole flight, you will not like the distance, but if you just watch movies, I did not have any issue whatsoever with the tv positioning. As rwoman has shown with pictures, 13 AB and EF have slightly more legroom (maybe 2 inches) than CDE. But 13 CDE are still far more desirable than other rows IMHO.

Dec 24, 2013, 7:20 am

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Originally Posted by guyinmotion

I disagree with tentseller. I fly the DL 747-400 product quite often both on Economy Comfort and Business. When I fly on EC, I always go for the bulkhead of 24DEFG because of the extra legroom (more so than 22ABC and HJK). Passengers have crossed infront of me from zero times to maybe once or twice per flight. I prefer this and have the extra legroom.

And BEWARE of seats 22ABC and HJK. The constant traffic to the lavatories, which are right in front of these seats, is extremely bothersome. Not to mention, sometimes bad odors and the constant noise from toilet flushes are enough to make the entire flight experience hell!

Anyhow, I would choose EC seats over regular Y anytime, especially considering your height and the need to stretch during long-haul flights.

For expert reviews on airline seats, visit: seatguru.com

Hi All,

I'm 5'9 at about 140#. If given the choice between 22K or 24G on the 74S, what would you pick? I've read on this thread that there's plenty of legroom for person in 22K can get up without disturbing the other pax. Then again, I really don't want to endure the lav smells or galley sounds for my flight from LAX-NRT. The other option would be 24G, but there doesn't seem to be much info about the amount of legroom. Can most people get out without disturbing me if I'm in the aisle? Are there adjustable headrests in EC? I'll prob be sleeping most of the flight. Also, is the 76W the same as the 76Z (mod) in terms of EC seating? I just picked 13F because rwoman's pic of 76Z bulkhead looked good

Thanks, FTI!

Last edited by UVAhoo06; Dec 24, 2013 at 7:32 am

Dec 24, 2013, 7:41 am

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Originally Posted by UVAhoo06

Hi All,

I'm 5'9 at about 140#. If given the choice between 22K or 24G on the 74S, what would you pick?

I (6'1", 210lbs) would take 22K due to the option of leaning against the side/window.

I've read on this thread that there's plenty of legroom for person in 22K can get up without disturbing the other pax.

Yes

Then again, I really don't want to endure the lav smells or galley sounds for my flight from LAX-NRT.

It depends on the flight.

The other option would be 24G, but there doesn't seem to be much info about the amount of legroom.

Some people use the row 24 bulkhead legroom to go between the aisle.

Can most people get out without disturbing me if I'm in the aisle?

Yes

Are there adjustable headrests in EC?

Yes

I'll prob be sleeping most of the flight. Also, is the 76W the same as the 76Z (mod) in terms of EC seating? I just picked 13F because rwoman's pic of 76Z bulkhead looked good

Not as familiar with 767s but if there is a bulkhead row 13 then it is the good legroom. I prefer 13A or G.

Thanks, FTI!

Dec 24, 2013, 7:50 am

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UVAhoo06

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Holy crap, you are fast!

. Thanks for the feedback and info!

Does anyone else have any experiences that s/he'd like to share, esp with the 76W bulkhead--I'm flying from NRT to SFO.

Dec 24, 2013, 12:28 pm

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brocklee9000

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Originally Posted by UVAhoo06

Also, is the 76W the same as the 76Z (mod) in terms of EC seating? I just picked 13F because rwoman's pic of 76Z bulkhead looked good

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Originally Posted by UVAhoo06

Does anyone else have any experiences that s/he'd like to share, esp with the 76W bulkhead--I'm flying from NRT to SFO.

DL.com actually doesn't list a 76W anymore. Seatguru has a 76T/76W, but I wouldn't trust it, as it starts at row 17. DL has done some name changing and either seatguru hasn't caught wind of it, or just hasn't caught up.

There was a post a few weeks ago with questions about the two versions of 76Z aircraft, and after the FTer flew on each one, they posted their review of them here. The 763ERs all generally have good legroom at the bulkhead (but not the 764s). Since you're seated at a bulkhead at row 13, I'm willing to bet you're on what DL calls a 76Z version 1. Seatguru has it listed as 76H/76Z, and if you click here, you'll find a seatmap that lines up with DL's 76Z version 1. Also, seatguru has a picture of 13AB's legroom, if you want to check that out. If you're in 13F, you have one of the best Y seats on that plane.

Dec 24, 2013, 1:01 pm

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UVAhoo06

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Good call! Thanks for the heads-up about the change. I swear that I saw 76W yesterday on my itinerary. Have you had much experience on the 74S? Do you have any recommendations on that front? That segment will, by far, be the longest for me. Right now, I've put myself in 22K, which has garnered pretty good reviews. My biggest concern is the lav, which will be used by 350+ pax on a 12-hour flight. Unlike a lot of Asian carriers who have FAs that clean the lav every so often, I worry that 7 hours into the flight, the lavs (and odors) will resemble the bathrooms after a Rolling Stones concert

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Dec 24, 2013, 1:15 pm

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brocklee9000

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Unfortunately (or...maybe fortunately?) I haven't been on the 74S (the idea of 3-4-3 just doesn't sit well with me

). But I have heard a lot about it. Here, take a look at this thread. He was in 22A, but that's analogous to your 22K. I would pick that seat if I were you. I'm sure between sleeping, eating, and the vast library of IFE, you won't have much need for your carryon items, but even if you did want them at your feet/against the side wall of the cabin, they wouldn't be in your seatmates' way, and you'd only have to stow it for takeoff and approach/landing.

Also, keep in mind that there are literally almost a dozen lavs in Y. In theory, that means that 350 wouldn't be congregating at the lavs in front of you and 22ABC. However, whether the other passengers know there are like 10 more lavs is a different story. Enjoy your flight. You should post some pics or at least a written review of your experience, after your flight (whenever that is).

Now as to your concert analogy...very much likely. If you're planning on using the lav on this flight (and I imagine you will, on such a long trip), you might want to try making all your pitstops well before you start descending from cruise altitude. That's generally when people wake up and start to get ready. Generally after the morning meal/snack/warm food thing is served up until the seatbelt sign is turned on for final approach, the masses will use the lavs and it will likely be a shipwreck.