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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:

C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
Sky Priority boarding
Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
~~Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™~~ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:

On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.

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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:

dl.com seat map: 747-400
Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
Legroom:
Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
Related Threads and Posts:
EC Bulkheads on the 74S
Economy Comfort on 747-400
The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772

dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
Legroom:
Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Related Threads and Posts:
Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
My pictures of row 31 - LINK
777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:

dl.com seat maps: A333 / A3L3
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
  NOTE: All of the A330-300s have been modified or are in the process of being modified.
Legroom:
- A333 - 10 AB and 10HJ have a bulkhead/galley in front of them.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Related Threads and Posts:
JulienMSP's comments on A330 EC: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...der-767-a.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Economy Comfort on A330-300s?
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread [Merged Threads]
tentseller's review of the A333 - LINK.
kpfleming's thoughts on EC (dis)comfort (A333) - LINK
rwoman's picture of 10J (A333) - LINK
c_d's pictures of 11J and the entertainment box that impedes legroom (A333) - LINK
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?

A330-200 / A332:

dl.com seat maps: A332 / A3L2
- A332: C+ is rows 10-13
Legroom:
- A332 - Row 10 and row 11 C/G have ample legroom.
- A3L2 - Row 10 is the bulkhead row. The J cabin is on the other side of the bulkhead.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Related Threads and Posts:
nabilm92's Trip Report on the A332, including row 10 HJ and pics of EC - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...e-sea-hkg.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
c_d's pictures of 11D and 11F and the entertainment boxes that impede legroom (A332) - LINK; comments on 11D and 11F (A332) - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on 11C and 11G, which have excellent leg room and row 10. Also row 11 has moveable armrests across the row (A332) - LINK

767-400 / 764 / 76D:

dl.com seat map: LINK
C+ is rows 15-18
Legroom:
On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
Related Threads and Posts:
Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T

dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
- 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
- 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
- 76L - Rows 16-21
- 76T - Rows 17-21
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
Legroom:
The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:

dl.com - 757-200 (75S)
44 C+ Seats - Rows 18-25
NOTE: There is a slide on the exit row door in front of 19A that can impede legroom. There is no window at row 22.
Legroom: Rows 19 and 18 are the bulkhead seats.
IFE: All Y seats have AVOD. Movies are complimentary in EC
Related Posts and Threads:
757-200 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
757s
When will the transcon 757-200 BE lie flat's be ready?

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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q

dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
C+ is rows 10-14
Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
Related Threads and Posts:
gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:

dl.com: 757-300 / 753
C+ is rows 14-18
IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and ISP
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related Threads and Posts for the 753s:
The Official Delta 757-300 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
lamont2718's feedback regarding restricted legroom in 16DEF: LINK
14A/B on the 757-300
757-300 seat 14A any good?

757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.

757/75U:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
  C+ is rows 21-23 ABC and 19-22 DEF.
- IFE:
  This a/c has overhead screens.
- Related Threads and Posts:
  Why no EC Seat in bulkhead of 757? Can't find answer on seat guru
75D/H:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
  C+ is rows 15-20 ABC and 15-16; 18-20 DEF
- IFE:
  This a/c has AVOD and ISP
- Related Threads and Posts:
  None
75G:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75G
- IFE:
  None
- Related Threads and Posts:
  None
75X:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
  EC is rows 20-23 ABC and 19-23 DEF
- IFE:
  This a/c has PTVs and power ports.
- Related Threads and Posts:
  http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...tter-seat.html
  75X Y exit row best
  Every1 Get A Life's feedback on the 75X overwing exits - LINK
  gooslee's feedback on PTV equipped 75X's - LINK and LINK
  gooselee's feedback on row 23 on the 75X - LINK

737-900ER / 739

dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power.
Legroom:
The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
Related Threads and Posts:
twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:

737-800 / 738:
- dl.com:
- 737-800 / 738
  C+ is rows 10-15
- IFE:
  This a/c has overhead video.
- Legroom:
  Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
- Related Threads and Posts:
  T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
  lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK

737-800 / 73H:
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
  C+ is rows 10-12.
- IFE:
  This a/c has PTVs.
- Legroom:
  Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
- Related Threads and Comments:
  None

737-700 / 73W:

dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
C+ is rows 10-12.
IFE:
This a/c has PTVs.
Legroom:
Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:

dl.com: MD-88 / M88
C+ is rows 10-14
IFE:
None
Legroom:
Row 10 has very good legroom.
Related Threads and Posts:
javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90

dl.com: M-90 / M90
C+ is rows 10-14.
IFE:
This a/c is equipped with ISP in rows 10-12 only
Legroom:
There is a soft wall in front of row 10. 10C is not necessarily recommended due to the aisle shift between the F and Y cabins. Reviews of room for row 13, the first regular row of Y have been acceptable.
Related Threads and Posts:
Misconfigured C+ seating on certain MD-90 aircraft
Seat 10C on the MD-90 - why does it even exist??
MD-90 Aircraft: The Definitive Thread
MD-90 Economy bulkhead

717:

dl.com: 717
C+ is Rows 10-12
IFE:
None
Legroom:
Related Threads and Posts:
Boeing 717: The Definitive Thread
mattp1987's photos of the 717 - LINK

A321-200:

dl.com: A321
C+ is rows 10-14
IFE:
PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
Legroom:
RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
Related threads and posts:
None

A320-200 / 32R:

dl.com: A320/32R
C+ is rows 4-6
IFE:
None
Legroom:
No additional comments

A320-200/32K

dl.com: A320 / 32K
C+ is rows 10-12
IFE:
None
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related threads and posts:
None

A319-100/319

dl.com: A319 / 319
C+ is rows 4-6
IFE:
None
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related Threads and posts:
akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J

dl.com: A319 / 31J
C+ is rows 10-12
IFE:
This a/c is equipped with AVOD
Legroom:
No additional comments
Related Threads and posts:
None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True

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May 16, 2014, 6:29 pm

#1741

tentseller

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mtllouis

Thanks tentseller. Since I've never been on such a long flight (I'm used to 5-7 hour flights), I'm curious as to how much time does one have to put its seat in the upright position for food service as to allow the person behind to use its tray table. Or is the tray table accessible even when the person in front is in full recline?

Upright only for takeoffs and landing. I have never been asked in EC to raise my seat for meals when I would rather sleep.

I find that full recline in EC is not a good position for me to eat from the tray-table or watch movie on the IFE. I am in full recline only for sleep.

May 16, 2014, 8:00 pm

#1742

mtllouis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tentseller

Thanks for that input. Nice to know one can sleep all they want without having to raise their seat

Sounds like I'll appreciate the xtra space in EC in 22 H or K...

May 19, 2014, 2:03 pm

#1743

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tentseller

Row 10m the first row have a bit more legroom at the expense of narrower eat due to IFE and tray in armrest.

Does row 10 A&B on the A333-200 (A3L2) essentially look like it does in this picture from a 767? I appreciate it's a different plane but wondered whether there was a similar amount of extra legroom due to the bulkhead.

I was lucky enough to have grabbed a DL deal ex YEG via SEA to HKG next Feb. and am being quoted CAD$151 one way for the upgrade SEA-HKG to EC and find it very tempting, especially if I can pre-book row 10 and get even more legroom on what's quoted as an almost 15 hour flight.

May 20, 2014, 3:05 am

#1744

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Originally Posted by tcook052

Not quite that much but a bit more than the other EC seats. Row 10 window on the A330 is my personal choice.

May 24, 2014, 5:51 am

#1745

matthewa93

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Hi
I will be on a 76W according to the Delta website, seat 15G and F. I would like to have my iPad and Macbook with me on the flight as its a long haul. Will there be power outlets to charge these? Seen conflicting things online thats all

May 24, 2014, 6:24 am

#1746

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There should be one intl multi-socket outlet that you can plug your adapter into. It will power most devices. Whether there is enough current to "charge" a device is another matter; most of the in-flight power is limited to 65/75W.

If your device is picky about the powersource, like most fruit based ones, be prepare for the worse.

May 24, 2014, 6:36 am

#1747

matthewa93

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tentseller

Thanks! Great help, I think my tablet should be fine, looking forward to sampling economy comfort.

May 25, 2014, 2:38 pm

#1748

presidentialplus

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Hi, family looking to fly NY CDG, we would like to fly Delta for EC. We have two choices:
1: There is a flight from EWR (DL270) on a 767-300,
2: or a flight from JFK (DL400) on a 330 200.
Please advise.

Last edited by presidentialplus; May 27, 2014 at 11:36 am

May 25, 2014, 3:09 pm

#1749

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Quote:

Originally Posted by presidentialplus

Hi, family of three looking to fly NY CDG, we would like to fly Delta for EC. We have two choices:
1: There is a flight from EWR (DL270) on a 767-300,
2: or a flight from JFK (DL400) on a 330 200.
Please advise.

Well, one of the main differences is that the 767s are all 2-3-2 and the 330s are 2-4-2. Since you're a family of 3, the 763s offer the opportunity for the three of you to sit together, but in the middle section. Are you traveling with a small child, a teenager, or are all three of you adults? If you're all adults, it's probably not so imperative that you all sit right together, and in that case you could have two sit on the "2" side and the other sits in another row. I guess it really depends on seating preferences.

As for the seats themselves, they all have the same type of AVOD at each seat, power, and the bulkheads offer good legroom (if you like bulkheads). I guess the main difference is that th A330s have electronic equipment boxes under some of the seats, although I don't know which ones. Seatguru used to show all of them, but now it only labels two of the seats in th entire EC section that have it, and I don't know how accurate that is.

May 25, 2014, 3:19 pm

#1750

presidentialplus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brocklee9000

Thanks for the reply,
Would like to know which of the bulkhead seats have more legroom? Also do the hand rests pickup? What are electronic equipment boxes?

Last edited by presidentialplus; May 27, 2014 at 11:37 am

May 27, 2014, 5:04 am

#1751

stephenk

Join Date: May 2014

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A330-300 EC 10a 11a 12a legroom

Hi all. searched everywhere but cant find a definitive answer.

Want to book today an EC window seat 10a, 11a or 12a on the DL259 AMS-MSP A330-300 in June but don't want to end up with cramped legs since i have knees injuries.

Questions:
1. Is there still an AV box under the 'a' column window seats and how much legroom does it cut off (i'm 6' 1")
2. Is the legroom in EC 10a (bulkhead) enough for someone 6' 1" with 34" inseam to extend legs straight?
3. Is EC 10a disturbed by the galleys?

any help much appreciated

cheers

May 27, 2014, 9:00 am

#1752

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stephenk

cheers

I just booked 10A/B on some 333s for a summer trip. When I asked, I was told that row 10 has good legroom, comparable to the 763s. I don't know if you've been on one, but I've always had plenty of room. I'm 5'10 and 34" inseam FWIW. From what I hear, you should have enough room (on the 763ERs, I can stretch out and not quite touch the bulkhead). Also, fork everything I've read (and what the seatmaps say), there is now a hard bulkhead across all of row 10, so no more exit doors in each side with a protruding slide, no more galley curtains/FA traffic.

May 27, 2014, 12:38 pm

#1753

stephenk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brocklee9000

Thanks brocklee, good info. Have now booked and took 12a the only EC left. Fingers crossed.

May 28, 2014, 7:52 pm

#1754

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767Z v2

Adding my comments to those from Post 1599

I just got off a 767Z v2 on ATL-ZRH. If possible, avoid Row 12. There are several issues with this row. 12B and 12F have all the legroom they want, but that room is usually occupied by people waiting for the lavs. For the "window" seats (12A and 12G), please note that you have *no* window. Also, your legroom may be a bit restricted by the emergency exit slide compartment.

Also, as mentioned in the linked post, the windows are not aligned correctly with the rows. If you want a window, then avoid Row 12 (see previous paragraph) and Row 15 (also no window). Row 16 is indeed the best selection here. Rows 13 and 14 have a limited window access due to the misalignment.

May 29, 2014, 7:08 am

#1755

vji6697

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smaug

What is 14e like ? how much leg room and does it suffer from lav traffic ?