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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Mar 26, 2012, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by CarmenOM
Robin, out of all the EC seats in the various AC that you have flown, do you have a favorite? If you had a choice of international routings on different AC, each with all EC seats open, which would you choose?
763 - easily the bulkhead AB or FG seats as the exit row can get really cold.
764 - if there's no one next to me, I'll take an EC seat as I do like the extra recline. That said, if it's a full flight I'll go with 30G (1st choice despite the cold) or one of the other seats - 30A/B/F. I like being able to get up without bugging my seatmate.

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Old Mar 27, 2012, 5:56 am
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EC Bulkhead, EC regular of Row 30 on the 764?

I am going ATL to LHR in August. I am 6'6" but not too wide. Would appreciate this groups opinion on the following choices as I am traveling with a friend:

EC Bulkhead vs EC Regular vs row 30? My main concern is leg room. We have already booked the EC but will change to row 30 if it is a big difference.

If you are in 15 G&G like we currently are, is there more room than C,D,E? Will the window person be able to get out without disturbing the other one?

We could both go with C&E and hope for an empty middle. Even if it fills up I would be OK if I get enough leg room.

Hard to tell from the pics if there is enough room for a tall person, Would appreciate all feedback.

Thanks
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by tootalltrucker
I am going ATL to LHR in August. I am 6'6" but not too wide. Would appreciate this groups opinion on the following choices as I am traveling with a friend:

EC Bulkhead vs EC Regular vs row 30? My main concern is leg room. We have already booked the EC but will change to row 30 if it is a big difference.

If you are in 15 G&G like we currently are, is there more room than C,D,E? Will the window person be able to get out without disturbing the other one?

We could both go with C&E and hope for an empty middle. Even if it fills up I would be OK if I get enough leg room.

Hard to tell from the pics if there is enough room for a tall person, Would appreciate all feedback.

Thanks
If you search through the thread, I've taken pics of the regular and bulkhead EC and many of us have discussed this.
Row 30 by far has the most legroom.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 1:14 pm
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Thanks, I saw the pics. Not sure if the Fand G seats in row 15 have the same or more legroom to the bulkhead as the C,D and E seats. Row 30 has more leg room, but farther back and less recline. Trying to determine if EC bulkhead and/or non bulkhead have "enough" leg room, uncerstanding that is a subjective measurement.
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Old Mar 27, 2012, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by tootalltrucker
Thanks, I saw the pics. Not sure if the Fand G seats in row 15 have the same or more legroom to the bulkhead as the C,D and E seats. Row 30 has more leg room, but farther back and less recline. Trying to determine if EC bulkhead and/or non bulkhead have "enough" leg room, uncerstanding that is a subjective measurement.
All of row 15 has roughly the same legroom on the 764.
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Old Mar 28, 2012, 4:34 pm
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Exclamation EC Bulkhead: A Gamble?

I got just got auto-rebooked from a paid ATL-LGW flight in June to ATL-LHR routing, as DL is no longer flying to LGW. I have EC seats in the second row of EC and tried changing to the bulkhead. Aside from the fact that Delta's IT systems require that the entire flight be refunded and then rebooked if you want to change EC seats (!!), the supervisor informed me that, if I wanted the bulkhead, I would have to agree to run the risk of being moved from the bulkhead to "another available seat on the aircraft" if a "person of greater need" (I have a bum knee, but have scheduled the surgery after the LON trip) wanted the bulkhead. So, if another EC seat is available, I would get that, but if not, they would refund my EC fee and seat me anywhere they wanted (including a middle seat in the back of the plane). DL claims that this is a DOT regulation, so I guess there's nothing to do. Just be aware that securing a bulkhead seat is a gamble with a potentially uncomfortable downside--"Economy Discomfort" for the flight!
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by fsemmes
I got just got auto-rebooked from a paid ATL-LGW flight in June to ATL-LHR routing, as DL is no longer flying to LGW. I have EC seats in the second row of EC and tried changing to the bulkhead. Aside from the fact that Delta's IT systems require that the entire flight be refunded and then rebooked if you want to change EC seats (!!), the supervisor informed me that, if I wanted the bulkhead, I would have to agree to run the risk of being moved from the bulkhead to "another available seat on the aircraft" if a "person of greater need" (I have a bum knee, but have scheduled the surgery after the LON trip) wanted the bulkhead. So, if another EC seat is available, I would get that, but if not, they would refund my EC fee and seat me anywhere they wanted (including a middle seat in the back of the plane). DL claims that this is a DOT regulation, so I guess there's nothing to do. Just be aware that securing a bulkhead seat is a gamble with a potentially uncomfortable downside--"Economy Discomfort" for the flight!
This does not make sense - family (paid EC) and myself (free EC) have been able to move around with no issue. The legroom on the 764 bulkhead IS NOT very good...see pics in the thread.
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 11:55 am
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Thanks, rwoman. I thought that it didn't make sense, either, but both the reservationist and the suporvisor inisited that it was so. I think that I was able to make EC seat changes on-line last summer for an LGW flight, so I don't know what's true and what's not! (I guess I shouldnt be surprised about that!)
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Old Mar 29, 2012, 3:31 pm
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FYI everyone... this weekend, I'll be traveling with wife on two different kinds of 757s. We are sitting in 21E and 21F on both of the planes so I'll be able to report back what is really going on there.

And the flights are domestic. ATL-PBI and back...

Update: 21E and 21F on the 757 (with PTVs) had the Economy Comfort seats. It was great. Actually, I believe it goes back to row 22 on the right and row 23 on the left.

The extra 4" of leg room was a huge deal as we were traveling with our daughter (infant in arms)...

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Old Mar 29, 2012, 5:19 pm
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I have flown the 757 two more times recently and can report that row 21 on the left hand side, which is the first row of coach, is now a great place to be. Tons of legroom. The front row on this side used to be row 20, but since they took 3 seats out, the front row on the left hand side has a TON of legroom.
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Old Apr 1, 2012, 7:59 pm
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Comfort Economy to Tokyo - Worth it?

Hello Fellow FT'ers!

I am headed to Tokyo in May on the non-stop from Atlanta-Narita. I am booked on economy but considering to upgrade to Comfort Economy. Can anyone comment if the money is worth the upgrade? I am not that tall 5'11", but I do appreciate a good rest. Your comments are appreciated.

RCB
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Old Apr 1, 2012, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by atlflyer5
Hello Fellow FT'ers!

I am headed to Tokyo in May on the non-stop from Atlanta-Narita. I am booked on economy but considering to upgrade to Comfort Economy. Can anyone comment if the money is worth the upgrade? I am not that tall 5'11", but I do appreciate a good rest. Your comments are appreciated.

RCB
It's worth it if it is free.
As a PM, I get EC for no charge.

I would not pay for it.
(and I'm 6'2")
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Old Apr 1, 2012, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by atlflyer5
Hello Fellow FT'ers!

I am headed to Tokyo in May on the non-stop from Atlanta-Narita. I am booked on economy but considering to upgrade to Comfort Economy. Can anyone comment if the money is worth the upgrade? I am not that tall 5'11", but I do appreciate a good rest. Your comments are appreciated.

RCB
IMHO, yes as ATL-NRT is a long flight (13hrs+ last time I flew the route in the DL55 days). The extra legroom alone would be worth it. However, if you can secure an exit row, much of the same may be accomplished. I don't find the added complimentary spirits, etc. to be the deciding factor.

Enjoy Nihon!
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Old Apr 1, 2012, 8:26 pm
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I'm PM so I get them "free", but if this weren't the case, I'd probably go ahead and pay for them. The emergency seats have a little less seat space due to the tray being between the seats. Also, the emergency window can get blessed cold... I've had FA's fill up empty water bottles with hot water and have me put them under blankets to keep me warm... I've also found that FAs dont' let passengers indiscriminately move up to the EC section. If those seats aren't paid for and the flight isn't full, you can often stretch out... I had 3 middle row seats to myself on a flight to LHR from MIA... Took an ambien, stretched out and slept like a baby..
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Old Apr 1, 2012, 8:29 pm
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One perk of EC is the free liquor as pointed out above.

Only you can determine what is value.
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