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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
A few general notes regarding DL C+:
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)
747-400 / 744 / 74S:
777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)
767-300 / 76P / 76Q
757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
737-800 / 738 / 73H:
737-700 / 73W:
MD-88 / M88:
MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
A320-200 / 32R:
A320-200/32K
A319-100/319
A319-100/31J
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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).
Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html
C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.
Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK
Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.
Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html
Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK
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KLM - Economy Comfort
klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
- C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
- Sky Priority boarding
- Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
- Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™(No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)- On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included
A few general notes regarding DL C+:
- On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
- The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
- The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
- Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)
747-400 / 744 / 74S:
- dl.com seat map: 747-400
Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats. - Legroom:
Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest. - Related Threads and Posts:
EC Bulkheads on the 74S
Economy Comfort on 747-400
The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK
777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
- dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests. - Legroom:
Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
My pictures of row 31 - LINK
777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions
A330-300 / A333:
- dl.com seat maps: A333 / A3L3
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
NOTE: All of the A330-300s have been modified or are in the process of being modified.
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
- Legroom:
- A333 - 10 AB and 10HJ have a bulkhead/galley in front of them.
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
JulienMSP's comments on A330 EC: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...der-767-a.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Economy Comfort on A330-300s?
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread [Merged Threads]
tentseller's review of the A333 - LINK.
kpfleming's thoughts on EC (dis)comfort (A333) - LINK
rwoman's picture of 10J (A333) - LINK
c_d's pictures of 11J and the entertainment box that impedes legroom (A333) - LINK
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
A330-200 / A332:
- dl.com seat maps: A332 / A3L2
- A332: C+ is rows 10-13
- Legroom:
- A332 - Row 10 and row 11 C/G have ample legroom.
- A3L2 - Row 10 is the bulkhead row. The J cabin is on the other side of the bulkhead.
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
nabilm92's Trip Report on the A332, including row 10 HJ and pics of EC - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...e-sea-hkg.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
c_d's pictures of 11D and 11F and the entertainment boxes that impede legroom (A332) - LINK; comments on 11D and 11F (A332) - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on 11C and 11G, which have excellent leg room and row 10. Also row 11 has moveable armrests across the row (A332) - LINK
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
- dl.com seat map: LINK
C+ is rows 15-18 - Legroom:
On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764. - IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage. - Related Threads and Posts:
Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL
767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
- dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
- 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
- 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
- 76L - Rows 16-21
- 76T - Rows 17-21
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs. - Legroom:
The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows. - Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK
757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
- dl.com - 757-200 (75S)
44 C+ Seats - Rows 18-25
NOTE: There is a slide on the exit row door in front of 19A that can impede legroom. There is no window at row 22. - Legroom: Rows 19 and 18 are the bulkhead seats.
- IFE: All Y seats have AVOD. Movies are complimentary in EC
- Related Posts and Threads:
757-200 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
757s
When will the transcon 757-200 BE lie flat's be ready?
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)
767-300 / 76P / 76Q
- dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
C+ is rows 10-14 - Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
- Related Threads and Posts:
gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK
757-300 / 753:
- dl.com: 757-300 / 753
C+ is rows 14-18 - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and ISP - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and Posts for the 753s:
The Official Delta 757-300 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
lamont2718's feedback regarding restricted legroom in 16DEF: LINK
14A/B on the 757-300
757-300 seat 14A any good?
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
- 757/75U:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
C+ is rows 21-23 ABC and 19-22 DEF. - IFE:
This a/c has overhead screens. - Related Threads and Posts:
Why no EC Seat in bulkhead of 757? Can't find answer on seat guru
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
- 75D/H:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
C+ is rows 15-20 ABC and 15-16; 18-20 DEF - IFE:
This a/c has AVOD and ISP - Related Threads and Posts:
None
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
- 75G:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75G
- IFE:
None - Related Threads and Posts:
None
- 75X:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
EC is rows 20-23 ABC and 19-23 DEF - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power ports. - Related Threads and Posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...tter-seat.html
75X Y exit row best
Every1 Get A Life's feedback on the 75X overwing exits - LINK
gooslee's feedback on PTV equipped 75X's - LINK and LINK
gooselee's feedback on row 23 on the 75X - LINK
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
737-900ER / 739
- dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power. - Legroom:
The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great. - Related Threads and Posts:
twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
Best seat on 737-900ER?
737-800 / 738 / 73H:
- 737-800 / 738:
- dl.com:
- 737-800 / 738
C+ is rows 10-15 - IFE:
This a/c has overhead video. - Legroom:
Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
- 737-800 / 73H:
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
C+ is rows 10-12. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs. - Legroom:
Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat. - Related Threads and Comments:
None
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
737-700 / 73W:
- dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
C+ is rows 10-12. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs. - Legroom:
Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3. - Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK
MD-88 / M88:
- dl.com: MD-88 / M88
C+ is rows 10-14 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
Row 10 has very good legroom. - Related Threads and Posts:
javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK
MD-90 / M90
- dl.com: M-90 / M90
C+ is rows 10-14. - IFE:
This a/c is equipped with ISP in rows 10-12 only - Legroom:
There is a soft wall in front of row 10. 10C is not necessarily recommended due to the aisle shift between the F and Y cabins. Reviews of room for row 13, the first regular row of Y have been acceptable. - Related Threads and Posts:
Misconfigured C+ seating on certain MD-90 aircraft
Seat 10C on the MD-90 - why does it even exist??
MD-90 Aircraft: The Definitive Thread
MD-90 Economy bulkhead
717:
- dl.com: 717
C+ is Rows 10-12 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
- Related Threads and Posts:
Boeing 717: The Definitive Thread
mattp1987's photos of the 717 - LINK
A321-200:
- dl.com: A321
C+ is rows 10-14 - IFE:
PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi - Legroom:
RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin - Related threads and posts:
None
A320-200 / 32R:
- dl.com: A320/32R
C+ is rows 4-6 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments
A320-200/32K
- dl.com: A320 / 32K
C+ is rows 10-12 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related threads and posts:
None
A319-100/319
- dl.com: A319 / 319
C+ is rows 4-6 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and posts:
akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.
A319-100/31J
- dl.com: A319 / 31J
C+ is rows 10-12 - IFE:
This a/c is equipped with AVOD - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and posts:
None
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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).
Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html
C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.
Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK
Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.
Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html
Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK
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KLM - Economy Comfort
klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
FAQ: Comfort+ Seating
#1726
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: FNT, DTW
Programs: Delta Skymiles
Posts: 21
I've noticed the same...something has changed recently on the seat maps for all of the 76Z v1. When I booked, and from DL's generic seat map for the 76Z v1, it shows that CDE are regular seats for rows 16 and 17. But just this past week, my flight's seat map has changed to indicated that 16/17 CDE are now economy comfort seat. I looked at other 76Zv1 future flights, and they show the same thing too. Does anyone have any very recent experience on the 76Z v1, and can comment if something has changed to CDE of row 16 and 17? Or was there a mistake in a recent upload of the 76Z v1 seat map that they globally applied to all 76Z v1 current and future reservation seat maps?
My flight: DL 228 CVG-CDG May 10
Some random other future flights that show 16/17 CDE as economy comfort:
DL420 JFK-LAX May 6
DL472 JFK-LAX May 6
DL424 JFK-LAX May 6
DL642 NRT-PDX May 15
DL611 HNL-NGO May 16
I mean, just keep looking...all of the 76Z v1 seat maps are showing 16 and 17 CDE as economy comfort.
Can anyone confirm this change?
My flight: DL 228 CVG-CDG May 10
Some random other future flights that show 16/17 CDE as economy comfort:
DL420 JFK-LAX May 6
DL472 JFK-LAX May 6
DL424 JFK-LAX May 6
DL642 NRT-PDX May 15
DL611 HNL-NGO May 16
I mean, just keep looking...all of the 76Z v1 seat maps are showing 16 and 17 CDE as economy comfort.
Can anyone confirm this change?
#1728
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2
My wife and I are flying long-haul (AMS-SEA)on the Delta A3L3 soon, and have selected seats 10A and B. Both being fairly tall, we are worried by the claims on Seatguru for this particular aircraft that legroom is compromised due to the close positioning of the bulkhead. Despite several Google searches, it seems experience and pictures of this particular row, and the outer seats in particular, are close to non-existent.
Does anybody have first hand experience of seats 10A and/or B on this aircraft (or H/J on the other side)? Even if you can point out a picture somewhere in the boundless ether that is the internet, it would be much appreciated!
Does anybody have first hand experience of seats 10A and/or B on this aircraft (or H/J on the other side)? Even if you can point out a picture somewhere in the boundless ether that is the internet, it would be much appreciated!
#1729
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Programs: DL FO/KM, AA PLT
Posts: 2,594
Meant to post about this a while ago but wanted to echo the thoughts about Row 15 (specifically, 15CDE) on the 767-400 while flying LAX-ATL earlier this year. It's pretty tight and uncomfortable. I usually prefer the bulkhead rows because then no one is reclining into me. However, I would advise against this seat - no room to stretch your legs. Thankfully this was a daytime flight and only about 4 hours in the air and not a transatlantic redeye.
#1730
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: PVU, SLC
Programs: DL Pork Medallion, PP, GE
Posts: 1,657
Couple of questions here, mostly about the A333 (3L3). It seems most of the hubub about the new 333s has been about the 1-2-1 lie flat BE cabin, so I'm having a hard time finding anything, and all the links in the Wiki go to pics of the old 333 with the exit slide (and just FYI, the last link under the 333 is dead).
So here's the deal: my girlfriend and I are taking a trip in July, and each TATL segment is on a 333. I picked seats in row 10AB for the outbound and 10HJ for the inbound. Word on the street is the old config had the "infinite legroom" for 10B and 10H, but now that it's a bulkhead, what should we expect? Is the first row of EC like the bulkhead on a 763ER, or are we looking at more like the 764 and domestic 763? I haven't been able to find anything written or photographed about row 10, and the reason I'm a bit concerned that it might not be so great is that 10AB and HJ are yellow on Seatguru (I know, it's SG so take it with a grain of salt, but row 10 on a domestic 763 is green on SG, hence my concern). Also, the outbound is mostly full in EC but row 10 is completely untouched (the return flight is totally empty in EC). I wanted the bulkhead so we could hopefully have a bit more legroom, and also to avoid the entertainment boxes under certain seats (there's nothing like thinking you'll get to put a small bug under the seat or stretch out your legs, only to have the box...). I don't care about infinite legroom (like on 757s), just as long as there's something (like on the 763ERs). Also, is the IFE a PTV stowed in the armrest or is it mounted on the bulkhead in front of each seat?
Also, another EC question really quick. One segment is on a 738 (non-AVOD). I don't know how many of these are even left (I was surprised to see the overhead icon under flight info), does anyone have a clue how many of these are left/how likely it is that we would actually be on a 738 instead of a 73H? Just curious; I know to avoid the row 10, I'm just curious mostly because of AVOD and power ports.
So here's the deal: my girlfriend and I are taking a trip in July, and each TATL segment is on a 333. I picked seats in row 10AB for the outbound and 10HJ for the inbound. Word on the street is the old config had the "infinite legroom" for 10B and 10H, but now that it's a bulkhead, what should we expect? Is the first row of EC like the bulkhead on a 763ER, or are we looking at more like the 764 and domestic 763? I haven't been able to find anything written or photographed about row 10, and the reason I'm a bit concerned that it might not be so great is that 10AB and HJ are yellow on Seatguru (I know, it's SG so take it with a grain of salt, but row 10 on a domestic 763 is green on SG, hence my concern). Also, the outbound is mostly full in EC but row 10 is completely untouched (the return flight is totally empty in EC). I wanted the bulkhead so we could hopefully have a bit more legroom, and also to avoid the entertainment boxes under certain seats (there's nothing like thinking you'll get to put a small bug under the seat or stretch out your legs, only to have the box...). I don't care about infinite legroom (like on 757s), just as long as there's something (like on the 763ERs). Also, is the IFE a PTV stowed in the armrest or is it mounted on the bulkhead in front of each seat?
Also, another EC question really quick. One segment is on a 738 (non-AVOD). I don't know how many of these are even left (I was surprised to see the overhead icon under flight info), does anyone have a clue how many of these are left/how likely it is that we would actually be on a 738 instead of a 73H? Just curious; I know to avoid the row 10, I'm just curious mostly because of AVOD and power ports.
#1732
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Posts: 10,689
Couple of questions here, mostly about the A333 (3L3). It seems most of the hubub about the new 333s has been about the 1-2-1 lie flat BE cabin, so I'm having a hard time finding anything, and all the links in the Wiki go to pics of the old 333 with the exit slide (and just FYI, the last link under the 333 is dead).
So here's the deal: my girlfriend and I are taking a trip in July, and each TATL segment is on a 333. I picked seats in row 10AB for the outbound and 10HJ for the inbound. Word on the street is the old config had the "infinite legroom" for 10B and 10H, but now that it's a bulkhead, what should we expect? Is the first row of EC like the bulkhead on a 763ER, or are we looking at more like the 764 and domestic 763? I haven't been able to find anything written or photographed about row 10, and the reason I'm a bit concerned that it might not be so great is that 10AB and HJ are yellow on Seatguru (I know, it's SG so take it with a grain of salt, but row 10 on a domestic 763 is green on SG, hence my concern). Also, the outbound is mostly full in EC but row 10 is completely untouched (the return flight is totally empty in EC). I wanted the bulkhead so we could hopefully have a bit more legroom, and also to avoid the entertainment boxes under certain seats (there's nothing like thinking you'll get to put a small bug under the seat or stretch out your legs, only to have the box...). I don't care about infinite legroom (like on 757s), just as long as there's something (like on the 763ERs). Also, is the IFE a PTV stowed in the armrest or is it mounted on the bulkhead in front of each seat?
Also, another EC question really quick. One segment is on a 738 (non-AVOD). I don't know how many of these are even left (I was surprised to see the overhead icon under flight info), does anyone have a clue how many of these are left/how likely it is that we would actually be on a 738 instead of a 73H? Just curious; I know to avoid the row 10, I'm just curious mostly because of AVOD and power ports.
So here's the deal: my girlfriend and I are taking a trip in July, and each TATL segment is on a 333. I picked seats in row 10AB for the outbound and 10HJ for the inbound. Word on the street is the old config had the "infinite legroom" for 10B and 10H, but now that it's a bulkhead, what should we expect? Is the first row of EC like the bulkhead on a 763ER, or are we looking at more like the 764 and domestic 763? I haven't been able to find anything written or photographed about row 10, and the reason I'm a bit concerned that it might not be so great is that 10AB and HJ are yellow on Seatguru (I know, it's SG so take it with a grain of salt, but row 10 on a domestic 763 is green on SG, hence my concern). Also, the outbound is mostly full in EC but row 10 is completely untouched (the return flight is totally empty in EC). I wanted the bulkhead so we could hopefully have a bit more legroom, and also to avoid the entertainment boxes under certain seats (there's nothing like thinking you'll get to put a small bug under the seat or stretch out your legs, only to have the box...). I don't care about infinite legroom (like on 757s), just as long as there's something (like on the 763ERs). Also, is the IFE a PTV stowed in the armrest or is it mounted on the bulkhead in front of each seat?
Also, another EC question really quick. One segment is on a 738 (non-AVOD). I don't know how many of these are even left (I was surprised to see the overhead icon under flight info), does anyone have a clue how many of these are left/how likely it is that we would actually be on a 738 instead of a 73H? Just curious; I know to avoid the row 10, I'm just curious mostly because of AVOD and power ports.
If there are two of you do note that the centre armrest does not flip up on the bulkhead row. Some couples does not like that on a long haul flight.
For me 10A or 10J when i am alone and other AB/HJ pair when flying with DW.
#1733
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There is a larger monitor on the bulkhead wall for the flight info and safety video. Your personal video is still in the armrest. You do get better legroom than the rest of the A330 EC seats but the cost is a narrower seat with the monitor and tray table in the armrest.
If there are two of you do note that the centre armrest does not flip up on the bulkhead row. Some couples does not like that on a long haul flight.
For me 10A or 10J when i am alone and other AB/HJ pair when flying with DW.
If there are two of you do note that the centre armrest does not flip up on the bulkhead row. Some couples does not like that on a long haul flight.
For me 10A or 10J when i am alone and other AB/HJ pair when flying with DW.
#1734
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,166
Hi everyone,
I hope I could get some advice regarding EC seating on a TPAC flight.
I'm flying SEA-HKG in November, and even though I usually fly on *A metal, I ended up on Delta this time, as someone else purchased my ticket and I didn't get to choose a preferred carrier.
The SEA-HKG flight time is listed as 14H 50M, which I find really long for the distance between the two cities (maybe very strong headwind during that time of the year?), so I'm seriously considering purchasing an EC seat.
The equipment is listed as A300-200 (from the seat map, it is the A3L2 version).
I am 6 feet tall and consider myself normal build.
1) Delta is asking me for $139 for a one-way EC seat.
I'm not sure if this is a reasonable price, but does the pricing for EC fluctuate, meaning I may end up with a higher/lower offer depending on when I check and how many seats are left at that point?
2) I found several posts about the "best" EC seat on the A333 and A332, but didn't have good luck finding much information for the A3L2.
What are some of the better EC seats on the A3L2?
3) From your experience, do you find purchasing an EC seat on this aircraft worth the spend?
Does it make a significant difference for sitting/sleeping comfort?
4) Lastly...if $139 is not worth the spend, are there any regular Y seats that are considered better than the rest?
Thanks a lot in advance-
I hope I could get some advice regarding EC seating on a TPAC flight.
I'm flying SEA-HKG in November, and even though I usually fly on *A metal, I ended up on Delta this time, as someone else purchased my ticket and I didn't get to choose a preferred carrier.
The SEA-HKG flight time is listed as 14H 50M, which I find really long for the distance between the two cities (maybe very strong headwind during that time of the year?), so I'm seriously considering purchasing an EC seat.
The equipment is listed as A300-200 (from the seat map, it is the A3L2 version).
I am 6 feet tall and consider myself normal build.
1) Delta is asking me for $139 for a one-way EC seat.
I'm not sure if this is a reasonable price, but does the pricing for EC fluctuate, meaning I may end up with a higher/lower offer depending on when I check and how many seats are left at that point?
2) I found several posts about the "best" EC seat on the A333 and A332, but didn't have good luck finding much information for the A3L2.
What are some of the better EC seats on the A3L2?
3) From your experience, do you find purchasing an EC seat on this aircraft worth the spend?
Does it make a significant difference for sitting/sleeping comfort?
4) Lastly...if $139 is not worth the spend, are there any regular Y seats that are considered better than the rest?
Thanks a lot in advance-
Last edited by agjil; May 14, 2014 at 3:17 pm
#1735
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Hi everyone,
I hope I could get some advice regarding EC seating on a TPAC flight.
I'm flying SEA-HKG in November, and even though I usually fly on *A metal, I ended up on Delta this time, as someone else purchased my ticket and I didn't get to choose a preferred carrier.
The SEA-HKG flight time is listed as 14H 50M, which I find really long for the distance between the two cities (maybe very strong headwind during that time of the year?), so I'm seriously considering purchasing an EC seat.
The equipment is listed as A300-200 (from the seat map, it is the A3L2 version).
I am 6 feet tall and consider myself normal build.
1) Delta is asking me for $139 for a one-way EC seat.
I'm not sure if this is a reasonable price, but does the pricing for EC fluctuate, meaning I may end up with a higher/lower offer depending on when I check and how many seats are left at that point?
Price will not change. On flight day you might get the leftovers if there is any.
2) I found several posts about the "best" EC seat on the A333 and A332, but didn't have good luck finding much information for the A3L2.
What are some of the better EC seats on the A3L2?
Row 10m the first row have a bit more legroom at the expense of narrower eat due to IFE and tray in armrest.
3) From your experience, do you find purchasing an EC seat on this aircraft worth the spend?
I get complimentary EC, no comment regarding extra cost.
Does it make a significant difference for sitting/sleeping comfort?
YES
4) Lastly...if $139 is not worth the spend, are there any regular Y seats that are considered better than the rest?
Exit row is next choice, but without status it might not be available to you.
Thanks a lot in advance-
I hope I could get some advice regarding EC seating on a TPAC flight.
I'm flying SEA-HKG in November, and even though I usually fly on *A metal, I ended up on Delta this time, as someone else purchased my ticket and I didn't get to choose a preferred carrier.
The SEA-HKG flight time is listed as 14H 50M, which I find really long for the distance between the two cities (maybe very strong headwind during that time of the year?), so I'm seriously considering purchasing an EC seat.
The equipment is listed as A300-200 (from the seat map, it is the A3L2 version).
I am 6 feet tall and consider myself normal build.
1) Delta is asking me for $139 for a one-way EC seat.
I'm not sure if this is a reasonable price, but does the pricing for EC fluctuate, meaning I may end up with a higher/lower offer depending on when I check and how many seats are left at that point?
Price will not change. On flight day you might get the leftovers if there is any.
2) I found several posts about the "best" EC seat on the A333 and A332, but didn't have good luck finding much information for the A3L2.
What are some of the better EC seats on the A3L2?
Row 10m the first row have a bit more legroom at the expense of narrower eat due to IFE and tray in armrest.
3) From your experience, do you find purchasing an EC seat on this aircraft worth the spend?
I get complimentary EC, no comment regarding extra cost.
Does it make a significant difference for sitting/sleeping comfort?
YES
4) Lastly...if $139 is not worth the spend, are there any regular Y seats that are considered better than the rest?
Exit row is next choice, but without status it might not be available to you.
Thanks a lot in advance-
#1736
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I actually saw prices increase on an international flight recently. It went from $69 (full price, $34.50 with discount) to $89 (full price, $44.50 with discount). I don't know what causes the price changes, but I think there's a thread around here somewhere with reports.
#1737
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2
Row 13 on A3L2?
I have been trying to find an answer to my question everywhere but havent found the right answer. So, hopefully someone can let me know here.
The A330-300 flight has 32 Economy Comfort seats from row 10 to 13, just like the modified A330-200 (3L2). But the row 13 on 3L3 has a window missing (or) is too far ahead from the seat.
Is this true for the 3L2 also? And while I am here, I'd also like to know if the leg space is reduced if I am on the 13J seat due the AV equipment under the 12J seat?
I am going to be taking this from MSP to CDG (DL171).
Any response is greatly appreciated. If this specific question is already discussed somewhere, please be kind enough to direct me to the right thread. I apologize if I have posted an already answered question.
The A330-300 flight has 32 Economy Comfort seats from row 10 to 13, just like the modified A330-200 (3L2). But the row 13 on 3L3 has a window missing (or) is too far ahead from the seat.
Is this true for the 3L2 also? And while I am here, I'd also like to know if the leg space is reduced if I am on the 13J seat due the AV equipment under the 12J seat?
I am going to be taking this from MSP to CDG (DL171).
Any response is greatly appreciated. If this specific question is already discussed somewhere, please be kind enough to direct me to the right thread. I apologize if I have posted an already answered question.
#1738
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7
Hi, first post here. Usually checking SeatGuru but glad I just found you guys.
Going to Japan in November and exit rows on the 74S are already fully booked. So far, I booked 31C, so I wouldn't have to mind about reclining as there's no one behind me (exit row seats' tray tables aren't hooked to row 31 seats). It's a 15-hour flight and I'm wondering if I'm better off keeping this seat or moving to 22H (I'm 6'2") or 22K (privacy). What are your thoughts? The upgrade to EC is 160$ each way.
Going to Japan in November and exit rows on the 74S are already fully booked. So far, I booked 31C, so I wouldn't have to mind about reclining as there's no one behind me (exit row seats' tray tables aren't hooked to row 31 seats). It's a 15-hour flight and I'm wondering if I'm better off keeping this seat or moving to 22H (I'm 6'2") or 22K (privacy). What are your thoughts? The upgrade to EC is 160$ each way.
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Between 22 H and K I would take K.
Row 22 is the "bulkhead" row so the seat width is a bit less due to tray table and IFE screen stowage in the armrest. Legroom is great for your height.
Besides extra legroom EC seats have more recline.
No comment on the value of the EC upgrades as I get complimentary EC seating.
Row 22 is the "bulkhead" row so the seat width is a bit less due to tray table and IFE screen stowage in the armrest. Legroom is great for your height.
Besides extra legroom EC seats have more recline.
No comment on the value of the EC upgrades as I get complimentary EC seating.
#1740
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7
Between 22 H and K I would take K.
Row 22 is the "bulkhead" row so the seat width is a bit less due to tray table and IFE screen stowage in the armrest. Legroom is great for your height.
Besides extra legroom EC seats have more recline.
No comment on the value of the EC upgrades as I get complimentary EC seating.
Row 22 is the "bulkhead" row so the seat width is a bit less due to tray table and IFE screen stowage in the armrest. Legroom is great for your height.
Besides extra legroom EC seats have more recline.
No comment on the value of the EC upgrades as I get complimentary EC seating.