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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Sep 12, 2014, 2:45 pm
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OK, posting from 38,000 feet and I can confirm that rwoman was correct. 20 & 21 D,E,F are EC seats. However TrojanTraveler is correct that the website has flights blocked for those rows. They appeared for me exactly at the 24 hour mark the day before the flight when I went to checkin.
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Old Sep 16, 2014, 4:32 am
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Hey everyone. Doing DTW-NRT-DTW on a 744 in EC and was wondering if an aisle seat or window seat is better for a 13 hour ride? I usually enjoy sitting at a window so I have something to lean against if I sleep, or just want to enjoy the view from 35,000 feet. But the more I think about it the more I think it is better to sit in an aisle seat so you have the ability to get up whenever you wish without disturbing someone; I know on long rides it's good to get up and walk around for a few minutes a couple times. So what are your thoughts?

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Old Sep 16, 2014, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by mattya9
Hey everyone. Doing DTW-NRT-DTW on a 744 in EC and was wondering if an aisle seat or window seat is better for a 13 hour ride? I usually enjoy sitting at a window so I have something to lean against if I sleep, or just want to enjoy the view from 35,000 feet. But the more I think about it the more I think it is better to sit in an aisle seat so you have the ability to get up whenever you wish without disturbing someone; I know on long rides it's good to get up and walk around for a few minutes a couple times. So what are your thoughts?

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Per the information in the wiki (and my own experience), the window seats in row 22 on the 744 have sufficient space for the window passenger to get up with minimal disturbance to other passengers. I don't mind the aisle on this row, but some complain about traffic and the row 22 aisle seat.
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Old Sep 16, 2014, 5:25 am
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22 A or K are the most desirable windows, it is my personal choice when available on the 744. It has the benefit of the window(side wall) and the only window besides 51 A or K (not EC, exit row only) that you can get up anytime without disturbing others in the back.
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by RSSrsvp
OK, posting from 38,000 feet and I can confirm that rwoman was correct. 20 & 21 D,E,F are EC seats. However TrojanTraveler is correct that the website has flights blocked for those rows. They appeared for me exactly at the 24 hour mark the day before the flight when I went to checkin.
My SO (GM but booked on my PNR) is booked in 21D tomorrow on a BE equipped transcon. Same thing...seats are blue, not green. However, I was able to book that seat at 60 days out. DM CSR was equally confused and proposed that perhaps these seats are blocked from EC purchase to allow Elite travelers access to EC late in the game.

Will find out tomorrow how it goes. Luvo wrap and free drinks in EC....would be a fail if those two rows get skipped while EC around them get theirs.
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Old Oct 1, 2014, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by RSSrsvp
I apologize in advance if this has been asked before regarding the 757E being used on the JFK-SFO route.

On the DL seat map for my flight if you click on aircraft details it brings up another map that shows rows 20 & 21 D,E,F as EC seats. However I was just about to make a seat change on a flight at the 24 hour mark and rows 20 & 21 D,E,F for the actual flight in question are colored blue which are just preferred seats and not EC. Are these 2 rows on the D,E,F side EC or not as I am currently in the FA rest seats 35 D&E and will only change if they are EC.
I just ran into this same situation. I'm flying SFO-JFK tomorrow (757-200 75E). I logged on to upgrade to EC last week and got 21B for my return flight but someone snatched the last EC on my outgoing flight while I was checking out (arg!).

I thought I'd look again while I was just checking in and there were a few new seats available in what Seatguru lists as EC rows. It was $50 to upgrade to 20E and like others have mentioned, it was colored blue and listed as Preferred, not EC. Very confusing, but since Seatguru's map lists it as EC, and my officially-booked EC seat is in the row behind this one, I'm expecting it to be EC.

Thanks for the input from others and I'll be sure to pop on and (hopefully) add another confirmation to the thread!
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Old Oct 1, 2014, 1:50 pm
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Rows 20 & 21 D,E,F were definitely EC seats as I reconfirmed later in this thread.
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph
Yup, Delta Assist confirmed I have all FO benefits thus free EC at check-in.
A little confused here. Does this apply to the entire directional itinerary or just the specific flights within 24 hours?

I'm at t-minus 24 hours for my first segment on a two-segment itinerary. Got the OLCI notice. I was able to "upgrade" to EC for the first segment, but for the second segment which is currently 27 hours away, DL.com is demanding credit card info for an EC fee.
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Old Oct 6, 2014, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Oakshadow
A little confused here. Does this apply to the entire directional itinerary or just the specific flights within 24 hours?

I'm at t-minus 24 hours for my first segment on a two-segment itinerary. Got the OLCI notice. I was able to "upgrade" to EC for the first segment, but for the second segment which is currently 27 hours away, DL.com is demanding credit card info for an EC fee.
People often refer to the rule as free for FO at check-in, but it really means at the T-24 mark from the flight in question. What you were seeing was correct. When I was FO, unless I was stuck somewhere that I couldn't do so, I would always check on available EC seats at the T-24 mark for each flight and usually had pretty good success in grabbing one.
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 6:37 pm
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I have recently flown two times intercontinental on 76W (by Delta notation) / 76L (by SeatGuru/SeatMaestro notation).

I would like confirm as eyewitness a few facts
Maybe some will find it useful:

17AB/FG: have a lot of legroom (non removable armrest)
16CDE: have more legroom then standard EC seat (non removable armrest too)
19CDE: are standard EC seats, levatories are not bothersome (enter to them is located on opposite side)

Best regards!
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 3:39 pm
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Scheduled to fly to SFO this week and it doesn't look like UG will come through (I know, WFBF) so EC it will be. Flight is on a 757/75U and the only EC available is 23A, a window. I don't mind the window aspect, but I see SeatGuru has 22A as missing a window, and wanted to make sure that didn't extend back to 23A as well. If anyone with experience could chime in, that would be great.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 10:29 am
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IFE boxes under seats

Originally Posted by rwoman
With the modifications and new IFE system, I believe the boxes went away.
rwoman (or others), I read through this amazing thread and the Wiki and I must say it is an incredible resource. :-: Thanks so much for sharing all this information.

My situation: travelling to Asia, either on 333 (NRT) or 332 (ICN), next month. I don't like having the tray in the armrest, so not that interested in row 10 (though I might be willing to try 10J if I can get it). If I pick another row, will probably opt for aisle seat. My question: are there any obstructions that interfere with full use of the area for your feet (like IFE boxes) under any of the other EC seats? The assertion above is not quite as strong as I'd like!

Thanks again.
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Old Nov 3, 2014, 11:48 pm
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Originally Posted by vbjd1111
My question: are there any obstructions that interfere with full use of the area for your feet (like IFE boxes) under any of the other EC seats?
Anyone have any input?
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Old Nov 4, 2014, 7:31 am
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767-300 / 763 / 76Q / 76P - Domestic Configured 767-300

All,

Sat in 10C this past Sunday. Good legroom; I thought it was better than most F seats on this bird!

10C:
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Old Nov 4, 2014, 8:45 pm
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Looks pretty good. I was in row 13 on my last domestic 767-300. Do note anyone who enjoys the window will want to avoid Row 12 on the F side as it is missing a window:



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