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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
A few general notes regarding DL C+:
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)
747-400 / 744 / 74S:
777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)
767-300 / 76P / 76Q
757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
737-800 / 738 / 73H:
737-700 / 73W:
MD-88 / M88:
MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
A320-200 / 32R:
A320-200/32K
A319-100/319
A319-100/31J
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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).
Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html
C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.
Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK
Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.
Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html
Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK
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KLM - Economy Comfort
klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
- C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
- Sky Priority boarding
- Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
- Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™(No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)- On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included
A few general notes regarding DL C+:
- On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
- The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
- The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
- Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)
747-400 / 744 / 74S:
- dl.com seat map: 747-400
Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats. - Legroom:
Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest. - Related Threads and Posts:
EC Bulkheads on the 74S
Economy Comfort on 747-400
The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK
777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
- dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests. - Legroom:
Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
My pictures of row 31 - LINK
777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions
A330-300 / A333:
- dl.com seat maps: A333 / A3L3
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
NOTE: All of the A330-300s have been modified or are in the process of being modified.
- A333: C+ is rows 10-14
- Legroom:
- A333 - 10 AB and 10HJ have a bulkhead/galley in front of them.
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
JulienMSP's comments on A330 EC: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...der-767-a.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Economy Comfort on A330-300s?
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread [Merged Threads]
tentseller's review of the A333 - LINK.
kpfleming's thoughts on EC (dis)comfort (A333) - LINK
rwoman's picture of 10J (A333) - LINK
c_d's pictures of 11J and the entertainment box that impedes legroom (A333) - LINK
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
A330-200 / A332:
- dl.com seat maps: A332 / A3L2
- A332: C+ is rows 10-13
- Legroom:
- A332 - Row 10 and row 11 C/G have ample legroom.
- A3L2 - Row 10 is the bulkhead row. The J cabin is on the other side of the bulkhead.
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
nabilm92's Trip Report on the A332, including row 10 HJ and pics of EC - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...e-sea-hkg.html
The Official Delta A330 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Any *recent* reports of EC on the A333?
c_d's pictures of 11D and 11F and the entertainment boxes that impede legroom (A332) - LINK; comments on 11D and 11F (A332) - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on 11C and 11G, which have excellent leg room and row 10. Also row 11 has moveable armrests across the row (A332) - LINK
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
- dl.com seat map: LINK
C+ is rows 15-18 - Legroom:
On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764. - IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage. - Related Threads and Posts:
Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL
767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
- dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
- 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
- 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
- 76L - Rows 16-21
- 76T - Rows 17-21
- IFE:
These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs. - Legroom:
The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows. - Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK
757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
- dl.com - 757-200 (75S)
44 C+ Seats - Rows 18-25
NOTE: There is a slide on the exit row door in front of 19A that can impede legroom. There is no window at row 22. - Legroom: Rows 19 and 18 are the bulkhead seats.
- IFE: All Y seats have AVOD. Movies are complimentary in EC
- Related Posts and Threads:
757-200 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
757s
When will the transcon 757-200 BE lie flat's be ready?
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)
767-300 / 76P / 76Q
- dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
C+ is rows 10-14 - Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
- Related Threads and Posts:
gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK
757-300 / 753:
- dl.com: 757-300 / 753
C+ is rows 14-18 - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and ISP - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and Posts for the 753s:
The Official Delta 757-300 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
lamont2718's feedback regarding restricted legroom in 16DEF: LINK
14A/B on the 757-300
757-300 seat 14A any good?
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
- 757/75U:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
C+ is rows 21-23 ABC and 19-22 DEF. - IFE:
This a/c has overhead screens. - Related Threads and Posts:
Why no EC Seat in bulkhead of 757? Can't find answer on seat guru
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75U
- 75D/H:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
C+ is rows 15-20 ABC and 15-16; 18-20 DEF - IFE:
This a/c has AVOD and ISP - Related Threads and Posts:
None
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75D(H)
- 75G:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75G
- IFE:
None - Related Threads and Posts:
None
- 75X:
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
EC is rows 20-23 ABC and 19-23 DEF - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power ports. - Related Threads and Posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...tter-seat.html
75X Y exit row best
Every1 Get A Life's feedback on the 75X overwing exits - LINK
gooslee's feedback on PTV equipped 75X's - LINK and LINK
gooselee's feedback on row 23 on the 75X - LINK
- dl.com: 757-200 / 75X
737-900ER / 739
- dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs and power. - Legroom:
The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great. - Related Threads and Posts:
twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
Best seat on 737-900ER?
737-800 / 738 / 73H:
- 737-800 / 738:
- dl.com:
- 737-800 / 738
C+ is rows 10-15 - IFE:
This a/c has overhead video. - Legroom:
Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat. - Related Threads and Posts:
T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
- 737-800 / 73H:
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
C+ is rows 10-12. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs. - Legroom:
Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat. - Related Threads and Comments:
None
- dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
737-700 / 73W:
- dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
C+ is rows 10-12. - IFE:
This a/c has PTVs. - Legroom:
Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3. - Related Threads and Posts:
rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK
MD-88 / M88:
- dl.com: MD-88 / M88
C+ is rows 10-14 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
Row 10 has very good legroom. - Related Threads and Posts:
javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK
MD-90 / M90
- dl.com: M-90 / M90
C+ is rows 10-14. - IFE:
This a/c is equipped with ISP in rows 10-12 only - Legroom:
There is a soft wall in front of row 10. 10C is not necessarily recommended due to the aisle shift between the F and Y cabins. Reviews of room for row 13, the first regular row of Y have been acceptable. - Related Threads and Posts:
Misconfigured C+ seating on certain MD-90 aircraft
Seat 10C on the MD-90 - why does it even exist??
MD-90 Aircraft: The Definitive Thread
MD-90 Economy bulkhead
717:
- dl.com: 717
C+ is Rows 10-12 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
- Related Threads and Posts:
Boeing 717: The Definitive Thread
mattp1987's photos of the 717 - LINK
A321-200:
- dl.com: A321
C+ is rows 10-14 - IFE:
PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi - Legroom:
RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin - Related threads and posts:
None
A320-200 / 32R:
- dl.com: A320/32R
C+ is rows 4-6 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments
A320-200/32K
- dl.com: A320 / 32K
C+ is rows 10-12 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related threads and posts:
None
A319-100/319
- dl.com: A319 / 319
C+ is rows 4-6 - IFE:
None - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and posts:
akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.
A319-100/31J
- dl.com: A319 / 31J
C+ is rows 10-12 - IFE:
This a/c is equipped with AVOD - Legroom:
No additional comments - Related Threads and posts:
None
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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).
Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html
C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.
Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK
Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.
Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html
Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK
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KLM - Economy Comfort
klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
FAQ: Comfort+ Seating
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I believe there are hooks in front of each section on row 31. Row 44 DEF also has bassinet hooks.
#1427
Join Date: May 2013
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be sure your seat is still EC with all of the changes
Make sure with the equipment changes your EC seats are still EC.
On a return flight from Haneda last year to DTW EC was so empty we had a row to ourselves. Unfortunately, our EC seat from DTW to SLC was the first row behind EC. The flight attendant stated they had "an equipment" change after we showed her our receipt displaying EC seats That we had paid for. Delta started loading standby people into EC much to our dismay. There was little help from the attendants because they were Northwest employees who griped the entire flight back about seniority and Delta. My dad was a Northwest Orient pilot (Tokyo based) and then meteorologist (MSP based) and he is probably rolling in his grave over the cattle car mentality of airlines and their outsourcing of airplane maintenance.
The person in front of us backed his seat down and it pinched and cracked my husbands laptop. Delta gave us miles ( no $$ for the repair) that weren't MQM's and promised to refund us the upgrade costs since we lost our EC seats we had paid for....it took 4 months to collect the refund from them and this only occurred because one of our friends who works for Delta put an inquiry in to the matter on our behalf.
I'll keep buying lottery tickets and maybe one day I can afford to fly on a private jet. LOL.
On a return flight from Haneda last year to DTW EC was so empty we had a row to ourselves. Unfortunately, our EC seat from DTW to SLC was the first row behind EC. The flight attendant stated they had "an equipment" change after we showed her our receipt displaying EC seats That we had paid for. Delta started loading standby people into EC much to our dismay. There was little help from the attendants because they were Northwest employees who griped the entire flight back about seniority and Delta. My dad was a Northwest Orient pilot (Tokyo based) and then meteorologist (MSP based) and he is probably rolling in his grave over the cattle car mentality of airlines and their outsourcing of airplane maintenance.
The person in front of us backed his seat down and it pinched and cracked my husbands laptop. Delta gave us miles ( no $$ for the repair) that weren't MQM's and promised to refund us the upgrade costs since we lost our EC seats we had paid for....it took 4 months to collect the refund from them and this only occurred because one of our friends who works for Delta put an inquiry in to the matter on our behalf.
I'll keep buying lottery tickets and maybe one day I can afford to fly on a private jet. LOL.
#1428
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2
Changes to bathroom location on 767?
My husband and I are flying DL 184 (767) from JFK to CDG at the end of August. We originally selected EC seats 21F and 21G; however, according to seatguru.com, these seats are right next to the lavatory. The seat selection tool in our Delta account shows an empty space next to rows 20 and 21 and does not specify that there are bathrooms there (bathrooms are indicated behind row 6 and row 42). I called Delta to clarify whether bathrooms are in fact in the "empty space" next to rows 20 and 21 and the rep stated that they have changed the lay out of many planes and that if there were bathrooms there, it would be indicated on the seat map. He claimed that this is likely a cross-over area. Is this true? Could the Delta seating chart be more accurate than the seatguru map or is this just wishful thinking on my part?? It seems particularly deceiving of Delta to fail to "show" bathrooms in the middle of the EC seats...
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My husband and I are flying DL 184 (767) from JFK to CDG at the end of August. We originally selected EC seats 21F and 21G; however, according to seatguru.com, these seats are right next to the lavatory. The seat selection tool in our Delta account shows an empty space next to rows 20 and 21 and does not specify that there are bathrooms there (bathrooms are indicated behind row 6 and row 42). I called Delta to clarify whether bathrooms are in fact in the "empty space" next to rows 20 and 21 and the rep stated that they have changed the lay out of many planes and that if there were bathrooms there, it would be indicated on the seat map. He claimed that this is likely a cross-over area. Is this true? Could the Delta seating chart be more accurate than the seatguru map or is this just wishful thinking on my part?? It seems particularly deceiving of Delta to fail to "show" bathrooms in the middle of the EC seats...
I believe rwoman has comments about this partiular row somewhere earlier in this thread, and if she sees this maybe she can post a link to her review. Row 21 can be good, as 19 and 20 are often a hot topic in the "is there really limited recline/exit row/tray tables in the armrests" discussions. Keep in mind that 21 is still an exit row, but should have full recline. Personally, I love 16FG (or 17AB if 16 is taken) and grab them every time, but to each his own. There's soooo much space between the seat and the bulkhead (I'm 5'10" and have a 34" inseam and I can't even come close to the bulkhead), you get a full sized window and don't have to lean on the emergency exit window thing, and it's at the front of economy, and a little forward of the row, so it's a bit isolated and the only traffic is when the FAs bring drinks or meals. 20 and 21 are by the lavs, which get trafficked a lot, depending on the time of departure, since economy only has the lavs by 20/21, and at the back of the plane.
Oh, one more thing. Just keep an eye out occasionally on your seats after you do decide and make a reservation. There is a volatility in the 767 and A330 fleet, so sometimes they'll swap one model of the 767-300ER for another.
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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That sounds like the 76U, with 6 rows of 2-2-2 up front, and EC starting at row 16FG on the right, and 17AB on the left. Row 21 is right next to that "empty space" on the map in the middle, which is most definitely two lavatories. I understand the confusion, though. I noticed several weeks ago that Delta's seat maps have been updated to include lavatories, closets, and galleys, and the visual demarcation of these spaces has been revamped. However, the seatmap for the 76U doesn't exist on delta.com anymore, for whatever reason, but when you book a flight and are choosing seats, the seatmap is available...
I believe rwoman has comments about this partiular row somewhere earlier in this thread, and if she sees this maybe she can post a link to her review. Row 21 can be good, as 19 and 20 are often a hot topic in the "is there really limited recline/exit row/tray tables in the armrests" discussions. Keep in mind that 21 is still an exit row, but should have full recline. Personally, I love 16FG (or 17AB if 16 is taken) and grab them every time, but to each his own. There's soooo much space between the seat and the bulkhead (I'm 5'10" and have a 34" inseam and I can't even come close to the bulkhead), you get a full sized window and don't have to lean on the emergency exit window thing, and it's at the front of economy, and a little forward of the row, so it's a bit isolated and the only traffic is when the FAs bring drinks or meals. 20 and 21 are by the lavs, which get trafficked a lot, depending on the time of departure, since economy only has the lavs by 20/21, and at the back of the plane.
Oh, one more thing. Just keep an eye out occasionally on your seats after you do decide and make a reservation. There is a volatility in the 767 and A330 fleet, so sometimes they'll swap one model of the 767-300ER for another.
I believe rwoman has comments about this partiular row somewhere earlier in this thread, and if she sees this maybe she can post a link to her review. Row 21 can be good, as 19 and 20 are often a hot topic in the "is there really limited recline/exit row/tray tables in the armrests" discussions. Keep in mind that 21 is still an exit row, but should have full recline. Personally, I love 16FG (or 17AB if 16 is taken) and grab them every time, but to each his own. There's soooo much space between the seat and the bulkhead (I'm 5'10" and have a 34" inseam and I can't even come close to the bulkhead), you get a full sized window and don't have to lean on the emergency exit window thing, and it's at the front of economy, and a little forward of the row, so it's a bit isolated and the only traffic is when the FAs bring drinks or meals. 20 and 21 are by the lavs, which get trafficked a lot, depending on the time of departure, since economy only has the lavs by 20/21, and at the back of the plane.
Oh, one more thing. Just keep an eye out occasionally on your seats after you do decide and make a reservation. There is a volatility in the 767 and A330 fleet, so sometimes they'll swap one model of the 767-300ER for another.
Thanks also for the tip about keeping an eye on the seats in case the plane gets switched! I will also keep an eye out in case 17AB opens up by some magical chance...
(Still pretty annoyed that the seating map provided by Delta does show lavatories behind row 6 and in-line with 42 but conveniently avoids showing the lavatories at rows 20 and 21 AND that the Delta phone rep assured me that there were no bathrooms there--"empty cross-over space"?? REALLY?)
#1431
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Yes, 17 CDE still have some decent room. Oh, and the other perk of being in the front of EC is that nobody reclines into you. There's a monitor mounted on the bulkhead wall, a bit above eye level so that you and the next few rows can see it. But I just bring an eyeshade in case it becomes a nuisance and I want to sleep. And earplugs/earbuds/headphones that can block out the ambient airplane noise. And some pills, just as a last resort. Those planes normally fly around 10 hour routes, but even that 7 hour trip is long with no personal IFE, or when you want to sleep overnight.
Oh, and I'm glad you picked up on it because I meant to also include looking out for 17AB and 16FG. There's a lot of time between now and August. It will be more difficult to get both of the seats, but not impossible. Worst case scenario, someone gets 17B and 17D, both aisle seats. Each route is different, but I notices seats start to open up especially during 3 to 2 weeks before departure, and then it goes kinda crazy the day of. If I'm connecting to a flight and I have less-than-desirable seats, I use the wifi to check seats (it's free to use on delta.com or the delta smartphone apps), and often times can make a switch. Good luck.
Oh, and I'm glad you picked up on it because I meant to also include looking out for 17AB and 16FG. There's a lot of time between now and August. It will be more difficult to get both of the seats, but not impossible. Worst case scenario, someone gets 17B and 17D, both aisle seats. Each route is different, but I notices seats start to open up especially during 3 to 2 weeks before departure, and then it goes kinda crazy the day of. If I'm connecting to a flight and I have less-than-desirable seats, I use the wifi to check seats (it's free to use on delta.com or the delta smartphone apps), and often times can make a switch. Good luck.
#1432
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, 1MM
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I definitely agree with brocklee9000 about 17AB and 16FG; 16F&G are my favorite EC seats. I have also sat in 21G. While it is close to the bathrooms I did not find that a huge problem. There is a passage between the two aisles so that the lav doors open into the passageway rather than directly into the aisle.
Ladymuscadet, you might think about selecting 17 C&E, the two aisle seats, if they are both available, in the hope that you will end up with an unoccupied middle seat. The middle seat is less likely to be selected than the aisle seat. If the middle seat does get filled, the occupant will undoubtedly be willing to switch to the aisle seat so you and your husband can sit together.
Ladymuscadet, you might think about selecting 17 C&E, the two aisle seats, if they are both available, in the hope that you will end up with an unoccupied middle seat. The middle seat is less likely to be selected than the aisle seat. If the middle seat does get filled, the occupant will undoubtedly be willing to switch to the aisle seat so you and your husband can sit together.
#1434
Join Date: Nov 2006
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First time flying Delta in about 10 years and first time in Economy Comfort.
Flying BOS-AMS-BCN and VCE-AMS-BCN
I have EC on the BOS-AMS on a A330-300 and was being 6'3 was wondering if I should choose 12G or 13G?
On the AMS-BOS on A330-200 I have 11G which appears to be a really good seat from what I have read.
Thanks.
Flying BOS-AMS-BCN and VCE-AMS-BCN
I have EC on the BOS-AMS on a A330-300 and was being 6'3 was wondering if I should choose 12G or 13G?
On the AMS-BOS on A330-200 I have 11G which appears to be a really good seat from what I have read.
Thanks.
#1435
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: PVU, SLC
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Posts: 1,657
First time flying Delta in about 10 years and first time in Economy Comfort.
Flying BOS-AMS-BCN and VCE-AMS-BCN
I have EC on the BOS-AMS on a A330-300 and was being 6'3 was wondering if I should choose 12G or 13G?
On the AMS-BOS on A330-200 I have 11G which appears to be a really good seat from what I have read.
Thanks.
Flying BOS-AMS-BCN and VCE-AMS-BCN
I have EC on the BOS-AMS on a A330-300 and was being 6'3 was wondering if I should choose 12G or 13G?
On the AMS-BOS on A330-200 I have 11G which appears to be a really good seat from what I have read.
Thanks.
On the -200, 11C and G are good, as there is no seat in front of them.
#1436
Join Date: Nov 2006
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From seatguru and posts on FT, it seems that G seats on the -300 should be okay, since A D F J seats have an electronics box underneath the seat. With your height, the bulkhead in front of row 12 might be a concern. I don't remember how close it is to the seats.
On the -200, 11C and G are good, as there is no seat in front of them.
On the -200, 11C and G are good, as there is no seat in front of them.
My worry is a close bulkhead as I usually like to stretch my legs out under the seat in front of me.
#1437
Join Date: May 2010
Programs: Delta Silver, HH Gold, Accor Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 5,342
Is free EC extended domestically to STE+ as well or not? I am fighting now with Delta Assist over this.
First they said yes but when I now want to assign, they refuse to put my family next to me.
First they said yes but when I now want to assign, they refuse to put my family next to me.
#1438
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, 1MM
Posts: 3,784
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en....html#Discount
At the very bottom there is information about the benefit for companions on the same PNR.
#1440
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