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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jul 5, 2012, 7:45 am
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Old Jul 5, 2012, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by rsoxtim
The seat behind me in row 19 was empty so it wasn't a case of someone blocking the recline. Also the middle seats in row 18 all reclined fully. I emailed Delta and they offered 9,800 miles...I'd honestly just wanted a refund of the price for Economy comfort but oh well.
Not bad, IMHO.
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Old Jul 5, 2012, 9:14 am
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I emailed Delta and they offered 9,800 miles.
Strange amount of miles.
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Old Jul 5, 2012, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by rsoxtim
The seat behind me in row 19 was empty so it wasn't a case of someone blocking the recline. Also the middle seats in row 18 all reclined fully. I emailed Delta and they offered 9,800 miles...I'd honestly just wanted a refund of the price for Economy comfort but oh well.
You should write back and ask for the refund, as you didn't get what you paid for in buying Economy Comfort. You should also get the 9,800 miles as compensation for having a seat --- any seat --- with no recline.
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Old Jul 9, 2012, 10:28 pm
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Power

Can anyone confirm what type of power is available on the transatlantic 757-200BE with EC in Rows 19-22? I'm curious if I will have ac power for my cpap or if it will be a sleepless journey.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by MNMickey
Can anyone confirm what type of power is available on the transatlantic 757-200BE with EC in Rows 19-22? I'm curious if I will have ac power for my cpap or if it will be a sleepless journey.
Never been on a 757EC. Most power outlets are US 110V configured on DL if THERE IS ONE.
As a FF and CPAP user: IME all the inflight power are very low, around 75W, barely enough to run a laptop computer. It might but most of the times will not power a CPAP unit for proper operation.

Since I fly long distances I have a battery powered AC power source to power my CPAP during flights and at my destination for backup power.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 9:15 am
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I was offered EC from ATL-PBI for $39 extra. Ridiculous price for a short flight for a seat that is no better than an exit row seat(ok , with a little extra recline).
I refused, other seats were marked X. Hours later, I try again and see that I am directed to the Gate for seat assignment. So the next day, I go to my flight, the cute GA lady tells me that I was assigned a middle seat in row 45 and that she would find me a better seat. In the middle of boarding, she calls my name and gives me 21 A and I find out that it is in the same row I was initially offered a seat for $39 during online checkin. Glad I didn't pay extra online.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Never been on a 757EC. Most power outlets are US 110V configured on DL if THERE IS ONE.
As a FF and CPAP user: IME all the inflight power are very low, around 75W, barely enough to run a laptop computer. It might but most of the times will not power a CPAP unit for proper operation.

Since I fly long distances I have a battery powered AC power source to power my CPAP during flights and at my destination for backup power.
Thanks tentseller. I had a battery pack for my prior CPAP but it is not compatible with the new unit. I guess I may need to purchase a new one.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 9:59 am
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Thanks tentseller. I had a battery pack for my prior CPAP but it is not compatible with the new unit. I guess I may need to purchase a new one.
Do not buy a dedicated battery pack one that only works with one unit or brand.

I use a Vegabound mini which is to power photographic lights. I found they are great for 120V power whenever and wherever beyond just a battery for the CPAP. You can power anything within their spec.

http://www.paulcbuff.com/vagabond.php
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by saneman
I was offered EC from ATL-PBI for $39 extra. Ridiculous price for a short flight for a seat that is no better than an exit row seat(ok , with a little extra recline).
I refused, other seats were marked X. Hours later, I try again and see that I am directed to the Gate for seat assignment. So the next day, I go to my flight, the cute GA lady tells me that I was assigned a middle seat in row 45 and that she would find me a better seat. In the middle of boarding, she calls my name and gives me 21 A and I find out that it is in the same row I was initially offered a seat for $39 during online checkin. Glad I didn't pay extra online.
Why would row 21 be EC???????
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 11:18 am
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Why would row 21 be EC???????
I'm guessing it was row 21 on a 757.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 1:03 pm
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ATL-SJO EC v. exit row (again)

I'm finding the information available on seat pitch with EC to be very confusing (or in the case of SeatGuru, wildly inaccurate). My husband and I are flying ATL-SJO in a few weeks. He is 6'7" so we are trying to figure out if we can get more legroom in the exit row or in the bulkhead row of EC (19). I even went so far as to e-mail Delta and found their response to still be kind of vague:

"I have reviewed your reservation and would recommend that you do change
your seats to row 19 for additional legroom. The current exit row seats
that you are assigned do have limited recline."

We don't care about the recline as neither of us reclines, he just wants to be able to walk when we get off the plane. Any tips? This is the corresponding 757 layout: https://www.delta.com/planning_reser...-200/index.jsp
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by blistex
I'm finding the information available on seat pitch with EC to be very confusing (or in the case of SeatGuru, wildly inaccurate). My husband and I are flying ATL-SJO in a few weeks. He is 6'7" so we are trying to figure out if we can get more legroom in the exit row or in the bulkhead row of EC (19). I even went so far as to e-mail Delta and found their response to still be kind of vague:

"I have reviewed your reservation and would recommend that you do change
your seats to row 19 for additional legroom. The current exit row seats
that you are assigned do have limited recline."

We don't care about the recline as neither of us reclines, he just wants to be able to walk when we get off the plane. Any tips? This is the corresponding 757 layout: https://www.delta.com/planning_reser...-200/index.jsp
Assuming you've got row 26 for the exit, I'd go with row 19 - should be plenty of legroom!
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Assuming you've got row 26 for the exit, I'd go with row 19 - should be plenty of legroom!
Flew this plane this morning, and am about to board it again for my return. 19DE have virtually unlimited legroom, as they face the exit door area. The FA will be in a jumpseat facing you, with his/her back against the bulkhead.

19F is impeded slightly by the exit door slide, so I wouldn't go for that.
I would avoid 21ABC - even though they are EC, they are against a hard bulkhead for the galley, and legroom seemed limited there.

FWIW, I can vouch for 26 having zero recline and 27 reclining and being decent on legroom, but I'm only 5'6" so I don't really need that much.
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Old Jul 10, 2012, 6:17 pm
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Originally Posted by saneman
I was offered EC from ATL-PBI for $39 extra. Ridiculous price for a short flight for a seat that is no better than an exit row seat(ok , with a little extra recline).
I refused, other seats were marked X. Hours later, I try again and see that I am directed to the Gate for seat assignment. So the next day, I go to my flight, the cute GA lady tells me that I was assigned a middle seat in row 45 and that she would find me a better seat. In the middle of boarding, she calls my name and gives me 21 A and I find out that it is in the same row I was initially offered a seat for $39 during online checkin. Glad I didn't pay extra online.


Something similar must have happened on my flight this morning on a 752. I boarded toward the end, went to 23D, and found someone in my seat. He showed a BP with 23E, and looked to the lady sitting there. She looked confused, picked up all her junk, and moved up a row to 22E, an EC seat (albeit a middle).

23E moved into his seat, clearing mine, and then we shared comments on how he should have just moved up to the EC seat. Totally me judging the book by its cover, but by the look of 22E, she had no idea what was going on - rollaboard + giant duffle + tote bag + duffel + generally lost look + browsing the safety card. I find it hard to believe that she would have either a) paid for EC or b) been GM+ to get EC for free, but would not have noticed that she wasn't sitting in one of the clearly marked EC seats (new headrest and all).

I ponied up $19 at check-in just to get a seat somewhere in front of row 40, but a random gate assignment gets placed in to EC for free? I know there's not a tremendous difference, especially for a 2-hour flight, but I'd have gladly taken that EC in exchange for my seat. I'd even have gladly watched a medallion with a preferred seat get put there... <rant over>
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