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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Aug 12, 2015, 8:53 pm
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Hello everyone. First time posting here! Lots of questions sorry! Was just curious how the new Economy+ was overall. Me and my wife are flying from SFO to OTP with stops in MSP and AMS. For the MSP-AMS A330-300 flight I decided to upgrade to Economy+ for the first time(never flew in econ comfort). Chose 12 A&B, are those good choices and is it worth it?

The other planes we'll be flying on this trip are an A320 and 737-900(ER). Would it be worth it to upgrade to Economy+ as well?

And lastly the return flight from AMS-DTW gives us a layover of 1:49 in DTW. I'm going to upgrade to Econ+ to try and be one of the first off the plane. Is that still going to cut it short in terms of trying to get through customs and make our connecting flight? Never been through DTW, not sure what to expect trying to get through customs there. Or should I call and try to find another flight?
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Old Aug 12, 2015, 9:23 pm
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Row 10 of A333

Just booked round trip JFK-FCO aboard A330-300 next summer. Selected seats 10 A&B for outbound flight, 10 H&J inbound. A few questions....

1. How much legroom? Does the bulkhead add legroom or reduce it compared with Rows 11-13?

2. Are PTVs mounted on bulkhead or in armrest? How does their size compare with PTVs in seatbacks?

3. Is the proximity to the galley in Row 10 a major noise problem?

4. Should we consider moving back a row or two?

Thanks
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Old Aug 12, 2015, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by CaliFlyer27
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The other planes we'll be flying on this trip are an A320 and 737-900(ER). Would it be worth it to upgrade to Economy+ as well?

And lastly the return flight from AMS-DTW gives us a layover of 1:49 in DTW. I'm going to upgrade to Econ+ to try and be one of the first off the plane. Is that still going to cut it short in terms of trying to get through customs and make our connecting flight? Never been through DTW, not sure what to expect trying to get through customs there. Or should I call and try to find another flight?
I have not flown the Delta A330 yet. But I wanted to answer about DTW since I connect there all the time, including a couple times international. 1:49 should be plenty of time. All international arrivals are at A gates. You connect downstairs to customs. The issue would be if several other flights arrive at the same time. The bottleneck for me was claiming and rechecking bags. It took about 30 minutes after arriving to get through customs and to my connecting gate, also in A.

If your connecting flight is B or C, it requires going through the tunnel, maybe 10 minutes extra walking time. If this makes you anxious, check the status of your matching flights a few days before to see what gates they typically take.

I would definitely get Comfort+ on MSP-AMS and AMS-DTW. I might even pay for SFO-MSP and DTW-SFO if I didn't have a shot at getting it free with my status.
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Old Aug 12, 2015, 10:10 pm
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Awesome, thanks blitzcon. Appreciate the info and quick response!
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Old Aug 13, 2015, 3:11 pm
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Refurb A320

Anyone have experience in C+ on the refurbished A320s? I'm booked on one in November. Rows 1-4 are First, and rows 10-12 are C+ on the seatmap. Row 10 seats are labeled as limited recline, and I also can't find any indication of whether those seats remain great legroom seats like on the old config and on the MDs or if there's a hard bulkhead.

As an aside, it's strange to me that at the same time DL is updating the MD-88 and MD-90 fleet from 3 to 5 rows (15 to 25 seats) of C+, they're also refurbishing the A320s with 3 rows (18 seats) of C+ despite all three aircraft having between 149 and 160 total seats and the same number of F seats after refurb.
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Old Aug 13, 2015, 3:19 pm
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Can anyone offer commentary on 21ABC on the 75U?

I get the impression that there is ample legroom between the seats and bulkhead wall...perhaps enough that 21A could theoretically get to the aisle without 21BC needing to stand up?

For comparison, I often sit in row 1 on M90s. If 1AD, I can easily get out if the aisle person doesn't have their legs stretched out (or pulls them in for a moment). If 1BC, the windows never have a problem when I do the same.

If these seats on the 75U are similar, that would be swell.
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Old Aug 14, 2015, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by gooselee
Can anyone offer commentary on 21ABC on the 75U?

I get the impression that there is ample legroom between the seats and bulkhead wall...perhaps enough that 21A could theoretically get to the aisle without 21BC needing to stand up?

For comparison, I often sit in row 1 on M90s. If 1AD, I can easily get out if the aisle person doesn't have their legs stretched out (or pulls them in for a moment). If 1BC, the windows never have a problem when I do the same.

If these seats on the 75U are similar, that would be swell.

Here is a video of the interior of a 75U. At about 2:23, you can see a FA standing between the seats and bulkhead with no problem with room to spare between her and the seats. It would appear that you could easily get out.
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Old Aug 14, 2015, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by BenC2000
Here is a video of the interior of a 75U. At about 2:23, you can see a FA standing between the seats and bulkhead with no problem with room to spare between her and the seats. It would appear that you could easily get out.
Well that was an interesting video, but yes, looks like plenty of room. Thanks for digging this up!
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Old Aug 14, 2015, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by gooselee
Well that was an interesting video, but yes, looks like plenty of room. Thanks for digging this up!
Indeed it was, haha. Happy to help.
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Old Aug 14, 2015, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by BenC2000
Indeed it was, haha. Happy to help.
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I'm trying to decide on an EC aisle seat in a 75H. The seat map shows rows 15, 16 and 17 in what appears to be a separate section from the other EC seats. I selected seat 16C, thinking that this separate section would be more private and quiet than in the back, but am wondering if it is better to take either 18D, where there are only 2 seats in the row and a lot of legroom, or 19C where there is even more legroom. Has anyone sat in the front EC section and can comment?
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Old Aug 14, 2015, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Richard1148
I'm trying to decide on an EC aisle seat in a 75H. The seat map shows rows 15, 16 and 17 in what appears to be a separate section from the other EC seats. I selected seat 16C, thinking that this separate section would be more private and quiet than in the back, but am wondering if it is better to take either 18D, where there are only 2 seats in the row and a lot of legroom, or 19C where there is even more legroom. Has anyone sat in the front EC section and can comment?
16C might be a little quieter, but if 16A or 16B needs to get up you have to move. 19C you don't (but sometimes the FA will be chatting with one of your neighbors, or people waiting for the lav will hang out in front of you). 16C is also the only one of those choices with underseat storage.

(I haven't actually been on that exact configuration since C+, though.)
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Old Aug 15, 2015, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by sethb
16C might be a little quieter, but if 16A or 16B needs to get up you have to move. 19C you don't
That is the one disadvantage of 16C that is causing my indecision. I believe that boarding for economy will be at the door just in front of 19C, so I am not sure if I want to sit there and dodge backpacks and whatnot as the passenger board. I think that 16C would not have any traffic going by, but would like to know for sure from someone who has sat in that front section. I do not necessarily need all of the extra legroom of 19C or 18D and could be comfortable in a regular EC seat.
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Old Aug 15, 2015, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Richard1148
That is the one disadvantage of 16C that is causing my indecision. I believe that boarding for economy will be at the door just in front of 19C, so I am not sure if I want to sit there and dodge backpacks and whatnot as the passenger board. I think that 16C would not have any traffic going by, but would like to know for sure from someone who has sat in that front section. I do not necessarily need all of the extra legroom of 19C or 18D and could be comfortable in a regular EC seat.
16C has 15 and whoever in F didn't board before you going past it, not many people. 19C has a lot, and you do need to watch out or (if you have no carry-on) board late or just hang out elsewhere while people walk past. But it's fun to sit there and smile at all the people starting their long walk back.
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Originally Posted by sethb
16C has 15 and whoever in F didn't board before you going past it, not many people. 19C has a lot, and you do need to watch out or (if you have no carry-on) board late or just hang out elsewhere while people walk past. But it's fun to sit there and smile at all the people starting their long walk back.
Thanks for the additional comments. I think that I will stick with 16C and hope that the seatmates don't have weak bladders.
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