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  • CDG : AF lounges in
    • Terminal 2F (Schengen): 2 lounges, one in each boarding pier (2F1 and 2F2). Both have been renovated (2F1 during summer 2016, 2F2 in feb/march 2017 reopening on April 6, 2017). A new single lounge is planned for 2020, to replace the 2 current ones.
    • Terminal 2G (Schengen) : New lounge opened on March 1st 2017. More info here. But
    • Terminal 2E (non-Schengen) : one lounge in each concourse (K, L, M gates). Note : L lounge is partially closed for renovation between 20 APR 2017 to 15 JAN 2018 (full re-opening in June 2018). Pax can use K or M lounges instead. See here for details. La Première lounge is located in 2E-K and is subjected to special rules for access (P pax on AF-operating flights only, or restricted paid access for J pax flying on an AF-operating flight without P class).
    • Terminal 2C : arrival lounge, located landside at the extreme right of the terminal, after the last check-in counter, just before the corridor leading to 2A. This lounge has specific access rules and there is a specific thread about this lounge
Note that, among Skyteam partners :
- KL, AZ, UX depart from T2F and use AF lounges.
- ME, DL, VN, CZ, MU, RO, AM, KE depart from T2E and use AF lounges.
- SU, SV, KQ depart from T2C, where AF is not present anymore. So those airlines are using the contract lounges available in this terminal.
- OK departs from T2D, where AF is not present anymore. So OK is using the contract lounge available in this terminal.
- AR, GA, CA and Xiamen do not serve CDG.
  • ORY (West terminal) :
    • Hall 1 (Schengen) : contract lounge (Premium Traveler). More info here
    • Hall 2 (Schengen) - AF lounge : more info here and here
    • Hall 3 (non-Schengen) - AF lounge
    • Hall 4 lounge is now closed permanently since 1st June 2016.
  • BOD : AF lounge (more info here). AF seems also to sometimes use another lounge for pax going to other destinations than Paris.
  • LYS : AF lounge (« Patio »), airside. A new lounge is scheduled to open in march/april 2018.
  • MRS : airport lounge (located airside in hall 3, but also accessible from hall 4). More Info
  • NCE (T2): airport lounges (Cap Ferrat lounge for Schengen flights, Cap d'Antibes lounge for non-Schengen flights). More info here and here
  • TLS : airport lounge (La croix du sud), airside.
  • MPL : airport lounge, airside. More info here
  • MLH: Skyview lounge. more info here
  • Other AF stations in France not listed above : no lounge.

Armenia
- EVN : ?

Austria
- VIE : Depends on the airline that is operating the flight.
  • When the flight is operated by Air France, the airport-operated JET lounge can be used
  • When the flight is operated by Austrian, you can access the Austrian Business lounge

Belgium
- ZYR : Thalys lounge (business days) Hotel Pullman (1st floor) on week-ends
- BRU : airport lounge (Diamond lounge)

Bulgaria
- SOF : ?

Croatia
- ZAG : Primeclass lounge. More info here

Czech Republic
- PRG : OK lounge (Erste Premier lounge).

Denmark
- BLL : airport lounge (King Amlet lounge).
- CPH : airport lounge (Atelier lounge). More info https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29126882-post578.html]here[/url].

Finland
- HEL : airport lounge (Servisair/Aspire) – This route is entirely flown by AY in code-share with AF. The Servisair lounge is only accessible to eligible pax flying with an AF-coded ticket.

Germany
- BRE : airport lounge. More info here
- DUS : airport lounge (Hugo Junkers). More info here
- FRA : AF lounge (more info here).
- HAJ : airport lounge.
- HAM : airport lounge. More info here
- MUC : AF lounge.
- NUE : airport lounge.
- STR : AF lounge. More info here
- TXL (Term A) (Joon): AF lounge (landside). more info here

Greece
- ATH : airport lounge (Goldair Handling). More info here

Hungary
- BUD : airport lounge (Skycourt lounge). More info here

Ireland
- DUB : airport lounge (DAA Executive Lounge). More info here

Italy
- BLQ : airport lounge (MBL lounge).
- FCO : several AZ lounges.
- FLR : airport lounge (Sala Masaccio).
- GOA : airport lounge (Sala Genova).
- LIN : 2 AZ lounges (Manzoni / Welcome). More info on Manzoni lounge here
- MXP : airport lounge (Monteverdi)
- NAP : airport lounge (Naples airport VIP lounge).
- TRN : AZ lounge.
- VCE : AZ lounge (Tintoretto). More info here

The Netherlands
- AMS : 2 KL lounges (1 Schengen and 1 non-Schengen).

Norway
- OSL : airport lounge (OSL lounge). More Info

Poland
- WAW : airport lounge (Fantazja). More info here and here

Portugal
- LIS (T1) (Joon) : airport lounge (ANA lounge). More info here
- OPO (Joon) : Airport Lounge (ANA lounge). More info here

Romania
- OTP : Tarom Business lounge (more info here).

Russia
- LED : airport lounge (Pulkovo lounge).
- SVO (Term E): "Space" lounge for AF/KL (and other non-SU operated) flights. "Galaxy" lounge for SU operated flights. See info on Space lounge here

Slovenia
- LJU : Adria airways lounge

Spain
- AGP : airport lounge (Aena). These flights are all operated by Skyteam partner UX.
- BCN (T1) (Joon) : airport lounge (Pau Casals). More info here
- BIO : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- MAD : airport lounge (Puerta del sol) (more info here). Since this review, the lounge has been renovated.
- VLC : airport lounge (Aena). These flights are all operated by Skyteam partner UX.

Sweden
- ARN (T2) : airport lounge (Aurora Menzies). More info here
- GOT : airport lounge (Novia).

Switzerland
- GVA : AF lounge (French sector).
- ZRH : Aspire lounge (concourse B).
- BSL: see France/MLH

Turkey
- IST: Skyteam lounge. More info here

Ukraine
- KBP : airport lounge.

United Kingdom
- ABZ : airport lounge (Servisair).
- BHX : airport lounge (Aspire).
- EDI: airport lounge (Servisair, now called Aspire lounge).
- LHR (T4) : Skyteam lounge. More Info
- MAN (T3) : airport lounge (Escape lounge).- (edited December 2017) KL and AF now using 1903 lounge for two-month trial (more info here).
- NCL : Aspire Lounge.


NORTH AMERICA
Canada
- YUL: AF/KL lounge (more info here)
- YVR (International Terminal - Concourse D) : Skyteam lounge. More info here.
- YYZ (Term 3) : AF/KL lounge.

USA
Hereafter are listed the nonstop destinations to/from France (AF- and DL-operated as part of their transatlantic JV). DL SkyClubs are available in several other US airports and can be found on DL web site).
- ATL (Concourse F) : DL SkyClub (+ other DL SkyClubs in other concourses)
- BOS : for AF-operated flights (term E) : AF lounge (Graf lounge) - See here. For the DL-operated flight (Term A): DL SkyClub.
- JFK : AF lounge in T1 (some pictures here and in this trip report, including of the reserved area for P pax). For the DL-operated flights JFK-NCE and JFK-CDG : DL SkyClub in T4.
- EWR* : DL SkyClub.
- PHL* : DL SkyClub.
- PIT* : lounge "The Club", located in concourse C between gates C54 and C56. Note that this is a temporary location and that another permanent location will open in October 2017. More info here
- IAD : AF lounge (concourse A). More info here
- MIA : DL SkyClub.
- CVG* : DL SkyClub.
- DTW : several DL SkyClubs available in each concourse. AF (and DL) flights to CDG depart from Concourse A, which has 3 SkyClubs (the main one in the middle of the terminal and 1 at each of the terminal station of the trains system).
- ORD (T5) : AF lounge.
- MSP : DL SkyClub.
- RDU* : DL SkyClub
- SLC* : DL SkyClub.
- SEA* : DL SkyClub.
- IAH : AF lounge.
- SFO : AF lounge (Virgin Atlantic lounge for P pax).
- LAX (TBIT) : According to the information provided in this post, AF will not use anymore KE lounge from Nov 1st 2017 and will use the QF lounge instead (valid for both J and P pax). AF has also a plan to build their own lounge at TBIT (2019 ?). For the KE lounge used until 31 oct 2017, more info in this thread including pictures of the KE lounge.

* route flown by DL metal only

CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
- BOG : AA Admiral's club lounge.
- CAY : AF lounge.
- CCS : airport lounge (Premier club).
- CUN : AM lounge.
- EZE (Term C): AR lounge (salon Condor). More Info
- FOR (Joon) : ? (supposed to be a GOL lounge, TBC)
- GIG : GOL VIP lounge. Note June 2016 : a review of the AF lounge in Terminal 1 (pics taken beginning april 2016 is accessible here. This lounge has now been closed (sometimes in may or june 2016) and AF has moved from T1 to T2 and they now use the GOL VIP lounge (more info here).
- GRU : Executive VIP lounge. More info here
- LIM : airport lounge (SUMAQ VIP lounge). More info here.
- MEX (T1) : Grand Elite Lounge. More info here.
- MVD : airport lounge (Pluna).
- PTY : Copa Club lounge.
- SCL : DL SkyClub. More info here
- SJO : ?

ASIA / PACIFIC
- BKK : AF lounge (concourse F). See here. Lounge re-opens on Aug 9, 2017 after renovation. Some pictures after the renovation are available here and here.
- BLR : airport lounge (Oberoi). Some info here
- BOM : airport lounge (MALS - Mumbai Airport Lounge Services).
- CAN : CZ Premium Class lounge for international flights (more info here). Pearl Club VIP lounges for domestic flights.
- DEL : airport lounge (Plaza premium).
- HKG : Skyteam lounge : more info here. P pax have the choice between the Skyteam lounge or the QF lounge : review of QF lounge here
- HND (Int’l terminal) : JL Sakura lounge (more info here).
- ICN : KE lounge. See here
- KIX : JL lounge.
- NOU : SB Hibiscus lounge (accessible to AF pax only when flying J between NOU and NRT or KIX, in connection with an AF flight to CDG).
- NRT : DL SkyClub (Note : AF lounge has closed in 2014).
- PEK (T2) : Skyteam lounge. More info here
- PPT : NZ lounge ( ?).
- PVG (T1) : P pax: MU "lounge 36" (gate 18). J and Elite+ pax: lounge 37 (gate 18) or 39 (just after security)
- SGN : VN lounge.
- SIN : Dnata SkyView lounge (term 1) for J and Elite Plus pax (more info here). For P pax : JetQuay lounge at C.I.P. terminal (more info in two trip reports : report 1 and report 2) and/or QF lounge airside (More info here) .
- WUH : ?

CARIBBEAN & INDIAN OCEAN
- FDF : AF lounge.
- HAV : airport lounge.
- MLE : Leeli lounge
- MRU : MK lounge. More Info
- PAP : ?
- PTP : AF lounge.
- PUJ : airport lounge (VIP Lounge Punta Cana)
- RUN : AF lounge.
- SDQ : airport lounge (Sala VIP Caribe) More Info
- SEZ (Joon) : ?
- SXM : airport lounge (Soualiga).
- TNR : MD (Air Madagascar) lounge


MIDDLE EAST
- AMM : airport lounge (Crown lounge).
- BEY : Cedar lounge.
- CAI : SV (Al Fursan) lounge.
- DXB : Skyteam lounge in concourse D (new concourse and lounge which opened end february 2016).
- IKA : ?
- RUH (T2) : airport lounge (Alfursan lounge)
- TLV (T3) : Airport lounges (Dan lounge, one at Concourse B and one at Concourse C). See info here


AFRICA
- ABJ : airport lounge (Aeria).
- ABV : airport lounge (FAAN VIP lounge)
- ALG : AH lounge.
- BGF : airport lounge.
- BKO : airport lounge.
- BZV : ?
- CKY : airport lounge.
- CMN : AT lounge.
- COO : airport lounge.
- CPT : International - Bidvest airport lounge, Domestic (When flying with Comair/Kulula to JNB to connect to Int'l flights) - SLOW lounge
- DLA : AF lounge.
- DSS (New Dakar airport): Infinity lounge
- FIH : ?
- FNA : airport lounge.
- JIB : ?
- JNB : SLOW lounge (P pax have access to a special controlled access VIP room with a butler in the SLOW lounge) - More info here. Note that the AF/KL lounge is closed permanently since April 1st, 2016. A review (with pics) of the ex AF lounge can be read here
- LAD : TAAG lounge.
- LBV : airport lounge.
- LOS : AF lounge.
- NDJ : ?
- NIM : airport lounge.
- NKC : airport lounge.
- ORN : ?
- OUA : airport lounge (Regie).
- PHC : ?
- PNR : airport lounge (HAT Enterprises).
- RAK : ?
- RBA : airport lounge.
- ROB : ?
- SSG : ?
- TUN : TU lounge. More info here
- YAO : ?
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Old Jan 2, 15, 5:26 am
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Air France lounges and contract lounges master thread

Dear all

We have very often on this forum questions about which lounge is available to AF pax at a specific airport. And there are also often new or conflicting information (see recent debates about VIE or HEL). Add to this that AF and Skyteam websites are very incomplete and not up-to-date. So I thought it could be useful to have in the AF forum a master thread about which AF or contract lounges are available worldwide for AF pax. I have drafted below a full list of AF destinations and lounges available, based on information found on various AF and airport sites (but with many information wrong or outdated) and my own knowledge. I included a few destinations not served by AF metal but for which the cooperation with the operating carrier is strong on a specific route or area (e.g. VLC and AGP with UX, CVG, EWR, SEA, et with DL, NOU with SB, HEL with AY, etc).


To all : as the list has been moved to a Wiki, please check, edit and update any info in order to have the most accurate list as possible. Especially, when I mentionned "airport lounge", if you know the name of this lounge, this would be a very useful info to have as some airports have several contract lounges. Thank you

[Content moved to wiki. Many thanks for the great work, Goldorak ]

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SDQ: Sala VIP Caribe (Contract Lounge). Passengers are issued a lounge invitation during check-in.
PUJ: VIP Lounge Punta Cana

MEX and CUN should be under North America and not Central/South America.

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Excellent initiative and should indeed be a masterthread. Could I possible suggest creating one post for each lounge [which could progressively be given info such as entry conditions - e.g. some of them are only for J/P and not for ST E+/FB G/P etc, whether there are wifi, showers, any special "tips" (as in NCE where there is Champagne but it needs to be requested), etc]. The first post could keep the list of all lounges and have links to the individual lounge posts?

A few notes:

NCE: of the four airport lounges, AF actually uses two - Cap Ferrat (as you mention) for Schengen flights, but also Cap d'Antibes after passport control for non-Schengen flights (TLV, TUN if it is reinstated, AF codeshares to JFK, SVO, etc).

BOD: similarly, the Patio lounge is only for Paris flights, there is another airport lounge for all non-Paris flights. (note: AF keeps changing between allowing pax in or giving them a voucher for non-Paris flights so not sure what the current system is)

CDG: is there still a TGV lounge access for Strasbourg trains?

Belgium: there is also a BRU lounge (A5 still has flights to LYS, and NTE-BOD I believe) although I'm not sure if they still subscribe to the lounge or not.

DUB: lounge is no longer called Ana Livia (hasn't for a couple of years) but "DAA Airport Lounge"

LAX: I don't think there is a QF lounge but just the OW lounge (although it is fortunately QF in every possible way but name!). Would be good to know if it is to the standard OW lounge or the new OW F lounge?

TLV: I believe the lounge is the Dan lounge (not sure if there is a JetSet lounge, I have never seen it)

PVG: Can't AF pax use the MU lounges too? - I may well be wrong on that!

Also a small pedantic remark - should the list include only airports for which AF flies with its own metal (in which case I don't know why HEL or ZYR are included?) or also flights where AF coded flights only operate as codeshares (in which case many are of course missing)?

Hope it helps!

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HEL Last July no problem to enter the lounge. The full name is: Aspire Lounge (Servisair).
CPH In July and December I was directed to the Apartment Lounge. The Novia Lounge is renamed Aviator Lounge.
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MAD T3 Puerta del Sol Lounge. No champagne, but on request you can have a small bottle of Cava.
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At KIX, the Sakura lounge is not an airport lounge, it is the JL lounge. Same as in HND. Many other airlines use this lounge, but it is a JL lounge (Sakura is the generic name of all JL business class lounges).
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Originally Posted by brunos View Post
At KIX, the Sakura lounge is not an airport lounge, it is the JL lounge. Same as in HND. Many other airlines use this lounge, but it is a JL lounge (Sakura is the generic name of all JL business class lounges).
Good point (and a rather disappointing lounge it is too although there is lots of food available).
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Originally Posted by B7e7US View Post
SDQ: Sala VIP Caribe (Contract Lounge). Passengers are issued a lounge invitation during check-in.
PUJ: VIP Lounge Punta Cana
Thank you. Wiki edited

Originally Posted by B7e7US View Post
MEX and CUN should be under North America and not Central/South America.
Well, depending on people and official organisms, Mexico is sometimes linked to N.A or to central A. U.N. includes it in Central A., so I let it there.

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Excellent initiative and should indeed be a masterthread. Could I possible suggest creating one post for each lounge [which could progressively be given info such as entry conditions - e.g. some of them are only for J/P and not for ST E+/FB G/P etc, whether there are wifi, showers, any special "tips" (as in NCE where there is Champagne but it needs to be requested), etc]. The first post could keep the list of all lounges and have links to the individual lounge posts?
Thank you Orbitmic
Definitely the best way to proceed, as we are doing in the Fast lane master thread.

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NCE: of the four airport lounges, AF actually uses two - Cap Ferrat (as you mention) for Schengen flights, but also Cap d'Antibes after passport control for non-Schengen flights (TLV, TUN if it is reinstated, AF codeshares to JFK, SVO, etc).
Added.

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BOD: similarly, the Patio lounge is only for Paris flights, there is another airport lounge for all non-Paris flights. (note: AF keeps changing between allowing pax in or giving them a voucher for non-Paris flights so not sure what the current system is)
I added a note about this as I was not able to find any information on BOD web site and AF and Skyteam sites list only Le Patio lounge.

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CDG: is there still a TGV lounge access for Strasbourg trains?
Good remark. Normally yes. I added the info.

Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
Belgium: there is also a BRU lounge (A5 still has flights to LYS, and NTE-BOD I believe) although I'm not sure if they still subscribe to the lounge or not.
No idea and could not find any info. Paging some BRU insiders

Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
DUB: lounge is no longer called Ana Livia (hasn't for a couple of years) but "DAA Airport Lounge"
Corrected

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LAX: I don't think there is a QF lounge but just the OW lounge (although it is fortunately QF in every possible way but name!). Would be good to know if it is to the standard OW lounge or the new OW F lounge?
I checked OW site and it seems that there is a specific QF lounge for P pax and this lounge is used for AF P pax, so I let "QF lounge".

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TLV: I believe the lounge is the Dan lounge (not sure if there is a JetSet lounge, I have never seen it)
The JetSet info was coming from an AF doc but it is probably outdated. Sky team site lists also Dan, so I edited for Dan lounge.

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PVG: Can't AF pax use the MU lounges too? - I may well be wrong on that!
Technically they can, but there is a specific (very bad) lounge for AF pax. My "philosophy" here was not to list all Skyteam lounges one could access but only the "AF ones". But feel free to disagree as this is not my thread but our thread !

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Also a small pedantic remark - should the list include only airports for which AF flies with its own metal (in which case I don't know why HEL or ZYR are included?) or also flights where AF coded flights only operate as codeshares (in which case many are of course missing)?
I wanted first to list only the destinations flown by AF metal, but decided to add a few destinations where there is no AF metal but where AF cooperates very closely with the operating airline. Which one do you see missing ? Maybe AUH (with EY) and JED (with SV) ? Again, feel free to proceed differently.

Originally Posted by Carel1 View Post
HEL Last July no problem to enter the lounge. The full name is: Aspire Lounge (Servisair).
CPH In July and December I was directed to the Apartment Lounge. The Novia Lounge is renamed Aviator Lounge.
Edited for both. Thank you

Originally Posted by Carel1 View Post
MAD T3 Puerta del Sol Lounge. No champagne, but on request you can have a small bottle of Cava.
Unless I'm wrong, Puerta del sol in T3 is not used for AF pax but for UX flights departing from T3. AF flights depart from T1 and so are directed to Cibeles lounge.

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At KIX, the Sakura lounge is not an airport lounge, it is the JL lounge. Same as in HND. Many other airlines use this lounge, but it is a JL lounge (Sakura is the generic name of all JL business class lounges).
Thanks Brunos. Edited. I didn't know it was the generic name for JAL lounges. For HND, I already put JL (I was in this lounge just a few days ago). For KIX, I haven't been there since 2003. It was the JL lounge at that time but I thought it changed when I saw this "Sakura" name.
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Belgium: there is also a BRU lounge (A5 still has flights to LYS, and NTE-BOD I believe) although I'm not sure if they still subscribe to the lounge or not.
For BRU, according to this post http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23059735-post6.html, HOP passengers do seem to get lounge access.

It is the Diamond Lounge, now located on level 0 (it used to be on level 2)

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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
I wanted first to list only the destinations flown by AF metal, but decided to add a few destinations where there is no AF metal but where AF cooperates very closely with the operating airline. Which one do you see missing ? Maybe AUH (with EY) and JED (with SV) ? Again, feel free to proceed differently.
Yes, definitely those, if I remember codeshare partners correctly, I would also include at least NBO (new KQ lounge), SEZ (Air Seychelles lounge), BEG, RIX, TLL, GYD, LCA, TBS (airport lounge, I think Primaclass), LUX, RAK (airport lounge), and maybe generic notes for DL and West Jet codeshares (they can effectively use any of those airlines lounges but only if on a same day connection to an international flight).

Also, the code for Kiev airport is KBP, KBV is the ever-so-desirable Krabi in Thailand so I don't blame you for the confusion!!
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Name of the lounge
SUMAQ

Location
After security check
After duty-free to the left handside (clearly indicated)

Food offer
Very basic (snacks, no hot option)

Drinks offer
Soft drinks and hot drinks (self service)
Large selection of alcoholic drinks (at the bar)

Services
Wifi: YES (bur works terribly bad)
Showers: YES
Toilets: YES
Quiet zone: YES
Business area: YES
Spa: NO
TV area: YES
Passengers are called: YES
Information screen: YES
Newspapers: very short selection (no papers in English or French)

Number of seats
-- (very busy)

Design
-- (looks like an 80s Delta lounge)

Level of noise
-- (just terrible)

Other information
Very clean (staff is very efficient to clean tables and toilets very often)
Electrical adaptors (not converter) are available upon request at reception

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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
I wanted first to list only the destinations flown by AF metal, but decided to add a few destinations where there is no AF metal but where AF cooperates very closely with the operating airline. Which one do you see missing ? Maybe AUH (with EY) and JED (with SV) ? Again, feel free to proceed differently.
I would be reluctant to include destinations where AF only codeshares but does not use its own metal.
The situation for lounge access by FB elite+ flying Y can vary according to the codeshare partner and a reader could be confused believing to have access to that lounge while he does not. Or the wiki should be more detailed for those destinations and give some indications of lounge access, although these could change over time.
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Old Jan 2, 15, 11:34 pm
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In VIE, there is absolutely no issue accessing the JET Lounge for those flying on AF metal, which departs from Terminal 1 (C-gates). Used it twice in the past week.

In PRG, the lounge is nowadays called Erste Premier Lounge

In WAW, the lounge is called Ballada Executive Lounge

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Originally Posted by ok986 View Post
In VIE, there is absolutely no issue accessing the JET Lounge for those flying on AF metal, which departs from Terminal 1 (C-gates). Used it twice in the past week.

In PRG, the lounge is nowadays called Erste Premier Lounge

In WAW, the lounge is called Ballada Executive Lounge
Thank you for all those precisions . For VIE, I think we have now a clear picture. Elite+ pax flying Y can only access a lounge with an AF-coded ticket when flying on Y metal but not OS metal.

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Yes, definitely those, if I remember codeshare partners correctly, I would also include at least NBO (new KQ lounge), SEZ (Air Seychelles lounge), BEG, RIX, TLL, GYD, LCA, TBS (airport lounge, I think Primaclass), LUX, RAK (airport lounge), and maybe generic notes for DL and West Jet codeshares (they can effectively use any of those airlines lounges but only if on a same day connection to an international flight).
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I would be reluctant to include destinations where AF only codeshares but does not use its own metal.
The situation for lounge access by FB elite+ flying Y can vary according to the codeshare partner and a reader could be confused believing to have access to that lounge while he does not. Or the wiki should be more detailed for those destinations and give some indications of lounge access, although these could change over time.
I think it is of interest to list some but, Brunos, you are right saying that the rules can be different for Y Elite+ pax depending on the partner. So may I suggest we include those destinations only when somebody knows clearly the rule and we can indicate it on the wiki ? But for routes operated by Skyteam partners (like AGP/VLC by UX), there is no issue here, so I suggest to keep them without specific note for rules access.
I have added some notes for VIE and HEL and also AGP/VLC.

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Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
Thank you for all those precisions . For VIE, I think we have now a clear picture. Elite+ pax flying Y can only access a lounge with an AF-coded ticket when flying on Y metal but not OS metal.
I wouldn't say so - the two people who reported being refused lounge entry both went to the OS lounge. My personal guess (and certainly at the very least a possibility) is that they would have been granted access (regardless of metal) if they had been to the Jet contract lounge instead.

Originally Posted by Goldorak View Post
I think it is of interest to list some but, Brunos, you are right saying that the rules can be different for Y Elite+ pax depending on the partner. So may I suggest we include those destinations only when somebody knows clearly the rule and we can indicate it on the wiki ? But for routes operated by Skyteam partners (like AGP/VLC by UX), there is no issue here, so I suggest to keep them without specific note for rules access.
The problem is that it would likely defeat the mentioned purpose of the thread, which is to avoid repeat questions on lounge access. I would personally suggest including them all (individually for flights where AF uses a direct codeshare to a French airport, and general statements for broad codeshare agreements - like domestic DL, Westjet, etc) but with a footnote stating that for flights operated by non-Skyteam airlines, lounge access is only guaranteed when flying J or P on an international itinerary and passengers should check with check in/ticket desk staff if flying Y with an elite plus card.

If progressively, we move to the structure that you and I seem to prefer with individual posts for each airport (which can all be linked from the wiki I believe), lounge access could then be clarified when known with the proviso brunos mentions that rules can always change at any time as reciprocal access agreements are, I believe, renegotiated typically every other year or so.
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