Jan 2, 2015, 8:17 am
Last edit by: Goldorak
Posters who whish to post a lounge review can use the template available at the end of this wikipost (after the lounges list)
Paid access options for AF lounges are displayed after the lounge list.
EUROPE
Paid access options for AF lounges are displayed after the lounge list.
EUROPE
France
- CDG : AF lounges in
- Terminal 2F (Schengen)
- Terminal 2G (Schengen) : More info here.
- Terminal 2E (non-Schengen) : one lounge in each concourse (K, L, M gates).Pictures of the renovated L lounge can be found here. La Première lounge is located in 2E-K and is subjected to special rules for access (P pax on AF-operating flights only, or capacity-controlled paid access for J pax flying on an AF-operating flight without P class).
Terminal 2C : arrival lounge, located landside at the extreme right of the terminal, after the last check-in counter, just before the corridor leading to 2A. This lounge has specific access rules and there is a specific thread about this lounge.This lounge is definitely closed. No arrival lounge facility is currently available for AF/Skyteam pax ending their journey in CDG (usual lounges are still available for transit pax).
- KL, AZ, UX depart from T2F and use AF lounges.
- ME, DL, VN, CZ, MU, RO, AM, KE, KQ depart from T2E and use AF lounges.
- SU and SV depart from T2C, where AF is not present anymore. So those airlines are using the contract lounges available in this terminal.
- OK departs from T2D, where AF is not present anymore. OK is using the contract lounge (SheltAir lounge) available in this terminal. (NO GUESTS ALLOWED FOR AF-TICKETED PAX on OK-SERVICE)
- AR, GA, CI and Xiamen do not serve CDG.
Train station (air+rail ticket): AF air+rail counter gives you if eligible a 16€-voucher to use at the Sheraton (opens at 7:30am).
- ORY :
- Orly 1 - A Gates (Former Orly West Hall 1 / Schengen flights) : contract lounge (Premium Traveler). Note 09/2022 : This lounge is not anymore accessible for free by AF pax (paid access only) More info here.
Orly 1 - B Gates (Former Orly West Hall 2 / Schengen flights) - AF lounge : more info here andhere.This lounge is definitely closed.- Orly 2 (Schengen flights / C gates): AF lounge located near gate C16, upstairs.
- Orly 3 (non-Schengen & Schengen flights) - AF lounge for non-Schengen flights.
- BOD : AF lounge in terminal B (more info here). For the rare case that a flight would depart from Terminal A (or KLM flights BOD->AMS), there is a contract lounge available.
- LYS (T1): All AFKL flights depart from T1. Eligible pax can use the Confluence Lounge (see description here, pictures there).
- MRS : airport lounge (located airside in Term 1 hall B (formerly known as Hall 3)). More Info.
- NCE (T2): airport lounges (Infinity lounge# for Schengen flights, Levity lounge for non-Schengen flights). More info here and here. Note : those lounges were previously called Cap Ferrat and Cap d'Antibes, respectively.
- TLS : airport lounge (La croix du sud), airside. More info here.
- MPL : airport lounge, airside. More info here.
- MLH: Skyview lounge. more info here.
- Other AF stations in France not listed above : no lounge.
Armenia
- EVN : Converse Bank Business Lounge. This is the generic contract lounge for all airlines at EVN. More info here
Austria
- VIE (terminal 1) : Vienna Lounge. More info here. Note that there is no more cooperation/code-share agreement between AF & OS on CDG-VIE route ==> no more access to OS lounge.
Belgium
- ZYR : Eurostar (ex-Thalys) lounge (business days), Pullman hotel (1st floor) on week-ends. Thalys lounge is outside the station, across the street from the AF counter. More info here.
- BRU : Diamond lounge, concourse A More info here Note that passengers on DL codeshare will have access to BA lounge in concourse B.
Bulgaria
- SOF : Preslav lounge
Croatia
- DBV : Business Lounge. More info here
- SPU : ???
- ZAG : Primeclass lounge. More info here
Czech Republic
- PRG : Erste Premier lounge. More info here and here.
Denmark
- BLL : airport lounge (King Amlet lounge).
- CPH : Aviator lounge. Review can be read here
Finland
- HEL : 2 airport lounges (Aspire) can be used by AF/KL eligible flyers. More info here (gate 27) and here (gate 13 - most recent one).
Georgia
- TBS : ?
Germany
- BER : Tempelhof lounge. More info here. Also available since 01/06/2023 : Tegel lounge.
- BRE : airport lounge. More info here
- DUS : airport lounge (Hugo Junkers). More info here
- FRA : AF lounge. More info here.
- HAJ : airport lounge (Karl Jato). More info here
- HAM : airport lounge. More info here
- MUC : AF lounge. More info here
- NUE : airport lounge. More info here (04/2018) and here (update 08/2023).
- STR : AF lounge. More info here and here (update 10/2023).
Greece
- ATH : airport lounge (Goldair Handling). More info here
- CFU : ???
- HER : no lounge
- JTR : no lounge
- JMK (Mykonos) : ???
- RHO (Rhodes) : no lounge
Hungary
- BUD : airport lounge (Skycourt lounge). More info here.
Ireland
- DUB : airport lounge (DAA Executive Lounge). More info here
- ORK : Aspire lounge
Italy
- BLQ : airport lounge (MBL lounge). More info here
- BRI :
.- CAG: Prima Vista Lounge. More info here.
- CTA : former AZ lounge.
- FCO (T1 Schengen) : Plaza Premium for AF/KL departures. New AZ lounge "The Hangar" seems to be for ITA and Air Europa only. (July '23). More info on Plaza Premium lounge here.
- FLR : airport lounge (VIP Club lounge). Pictures here and here.
- GOA : airport lounge (Sala Genova).- located landside, but with an exit directly into the fast track lane for security check. Note : AF route suspended since beginning of pandemic but KL operates and you have access.
- LIN : SEA Lounge Leonardo.
- MXP : Schengen area: Sala Monteverdi (more info here). Non-Schengen: Montale Lounge by default, Casa Alitalia only if on AZ ticket or AZ operated flight.
- NAP : New airport lounge (Pearl lounge) opened early July 2021. More info here and updated here
- OLB : Olbia Airport Club Lounge
- PMO : ???
- TRN : Airport lounge (Piemonte lounge). More info here
- VCE : Marco Polo lounge (more info here)
Latvia
- RIX*: Business lounge
* Route only flown by BT metal (AF & KL codeshares)
Lithuania
- VNO* : Business lounge
* Route only flown by BT metal (AF & KL codeshares)
The Netherlands
- AMS : 2 KL lounges (1 Schengen - lounge 25 and 1 non-Schengen - lounge 52). Pictures of the new non-Schengen KL lounge can be found here.
Norway
- BGO : Bergen Lounge More Info
- OSL : airport lounge (OSL lounge). More Info
Poland
- KRK : Airport business lounge. More info here
- KTW : Business lounge.
- WAW : airport lounge (Fantazja). More info here and here
- WRO : ?
Portugal
- LIS (T1) : airport lounge (ANA lounge). More info here
- OPO : Airport Lounge (ANA lounge). More info here
Romania
- OTP : Tarom Business lounge (more info here).
Russia
- LED : airport lounge (Pulkovo lounge).
- SVO (Term E): "Space" lounge for AF/KL (and other non-SU operated) flights. "Galaxy" lounge for SU operated flights. See info on Space lounge here
Serbia
- BEG : airport lounge (Bizniz lounge) for Y Elite+ pax; Air Serbia lounge for C pax.
Slovenia
- LJU : Business lounge. More info here
Spain
- AGP : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- BCN (T1) : airport lounge (Pau Casals). More info here
- BIO : airport lounge (Aena). More info here
- IBZ (Seasonal) : airport lounge (Aena - Cap Des Falco). More info here
- MAD : airport lounge (Puerta del sol - more info here). Since this review, the lounge has been renovated. Other info about food offering here and here
- PMI : Sala Formentor. More info here
- SVQ : Airport lounge (Azahar lounge). More info here
- TFN : airport lounge (Aena - Nivaria). After security, 1st floor on the right before duty free.
- VLC : airport lounge (Aena - Joan Olivert lounge). More info here.
Sweden
- ARN (T2) : airport lounge (Pearl Lounge). More info here and here and here
- GOT : airport lounge (Menzies). More info here.
Switzerland
- GVA : AF lounge (French sector). More info here.
- ZRH :
- BSL : see France / MLH
Turkey
- IST: Skyteam lounge
Ukraine
- KBP : airport lounge
United Kingdom
- ABZ: airport lounge (Servisair), called “Northern Lights” upstairs near gate 1.
- BHX : Aspire lounge, more info here. Aspire south also available.
- BRS :
- EDI : airport lounge (Two Aspire lounges - original by gate 4 and new one by gate 12) (more info here)
- GLA :
-HUY: Aspire lounge. (Route only flown by KL). More info
- LHR (T4) : Update March 2023 : AFKL are returning to T4. Lounge used seems to be the Plaza Premium. The Skyteam lounge in T4 is definitely closed(a review of this ST lounge can still be seen here: More Info). FB platinum members can use VS lounge in T3 when flying VS or DL from UK.
- MAN (T2) : Escape lounge until 17:00, then 1903 lounge after 17:00. More info here and there.
- NCL : Aspire Lounge.
- SOU : Spitfire Lounge (at least when traveling KL, not sure what happens when traveling T3 on AF-codeshare). More info.
NORTH AMERICA
Canada
- YQB : Salon VIP Club Med. More info here.
- YUL: AF/KL lounge. More info on the renovated lounge here and here. Pictures and review of the lounge before renovation can be found here.
- YOW : Aspire lounge. (Caution: FB members cannot bring guests into this lounge, a paid visit is $50.85 CAD; sending the receipt and boarding passes to AF and they may reimburse)
- YVR (International Terminal - Concourse D) : Skyteam lounge. More info here.
- YYZ (Term 3) : AF/KL lounge. More info here.
USA
Hereafter are listed the nonstop destinations to/from France (AF- and DL-operated as part of their transatlantic JV). DL SkyClubs are available in several other US airports and can be found on DL web site).
- ATL (Concourse F) : DL SkyClub (+ other DL SkyClubs in other concourses)
- BOS : for AF-operated flights (term E) : AF lounge (Graf lounge) - See here. Note that from 04/22, the DL- flights to CDG, AMS, LHR, FCO also depart from Term E and pax can use the AF lounge. For the other DL-operated flight (Term A): DL SkyClub. A new DL SkyClub will be available in 2023 in Terminal E.
- JFK : AF lounge in T1 (some pictures here and in this trip report). The mezzanine has been further enhanced for providing night service - see here and here. For the DL-operated flights JFK-NCE and JFK-CDG : DL SkyClub in T4.
- EWR (terminal B) : Plaza Premium lounge (ex-Virgin Club House). Note 08/2023 : lounge closed for renovation. A 35$ voucher can be obtained at check-in counter and used for F&B in the terminal.
- IAD : AF lounge (concourse A). Update July 2019 : lounge has reopened after extension and renovation. Pictures of the lounge before extension & renovation can be found here. More info after renovation here.
- MIA : LATAM lounge on J concourse.
- CVG* : DL SkyClub.
- DFW : Mar 2023 = AF uses Capital One lounge.
- DTW : several DL SkyClubs available in each concourse. AF (and DL) flights to CDG depart from Concourse A, which has 3 SkyClubs (the main one in the middle of the terminal and 1 at each of the terminal station of the trains system).
- ORD (T5) : Update 11 OCT 2022 : new DL SkyClub in terminal 5 where DL has moved operations. More info about DL lounge here. AF lounge is definitely closed (you can access previous review of the AF lounge here and a review of the Swissport lounge here that has been used temporarily until 10/10/2022).
- MSP : DL SkyClub.
- RDU* : DL SkyClub
- SLC* : DL SkyClub.
- SEA : DL SkyClub gate A1. Beware : AF leaves from S gates. No lounge for AF pax in S gates ==> need to use DL SkyClub at gate A1.
- IAH: AF lounge (Term D) reports of upcoming renovations, KLM lounge (recently renovated)
- SFO : AF lounge (International terminal - Concourse A). Note 16/06/2023 : the renovated and extended AF lounge has reopen. It includes a separate room for P pax and another one for Ultimate pax. Review of new SFO lounge can be read here.
- LAX (TBIT) : KE lounge. AF has also a plan to build their own lounge at TBIT (last info is april 2022). As of May 2022, AF is using OW lounge again (per pax report) and also DL in T2/3 is available with the new airside walkway to TBIT, also all ST-operated business/first class passengers can enter via the Delta One Private Check in on the arrivals level of T3, which has a private check-in lounge with food and beverages, private security and elevator access directly into the SkyClub
https://www.delta.com/us/en/airports...t-map#onecheck
* route flown by DL metal only
CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
- BOG : Avianca Diamond Lounge (AF is not using anymore the El Dorado lounge, reviewed here).
- CAY : AF lounge.
- CCS : airport lounge (Premier club). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- CUN (T4): Mera Business lounge.
- EZE (Term C): AR lounge (salon Condor). More Info
- FOR : ? (supposed to be a GOL lounge, TBC)
- GIG (T2) : GOL VIP lounge (more info here). Note : AF has moved their operations from T1 to T2 in June 2016. The former AF lounge in T1 has been definitely closed (a review of the former AF lounge in T1 is accessible here.). Note 01/23 : GOL lounge is still closed. AFKL pax can access the Plaza Premium lounge in T2. (More info here)
- GYE : Sala VIP $43
- GRU : WPremium lounge. More info here. (Formerly used executive VIP lounge (more info here) and American Express Centurion Lounge on the mezzanine of T3 (more info here)).
- LIM : airport lounge (SUMAQ VIP lounge). More info here.
- MEX (T1) : Grand Premier lounge : More info here.A specific lounge was used in 2019 for P pax, but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore (More info here). T2 Lounge "Sala VIP"
- PTY : Copa Club lounge.
- SCL : Skyteam lounge. More info here and here
- SJO : Jose Santamaria VIP Lounge next to gate 5. Wifi, food and drinks available. Make sure to mention that you are on AF as not all participating airlines offer free alcoholic beverages.
- UIO : Mitad del Mundo lounge. Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
ASIA / PACIFIC
- BKK : AF lounge (concourse F). See here. Some pictures after the renovation are available here, here and here.
- BLR : Above Ground Lounge and partly closed for renovation (expected to re-open Summer 2020?). Currently Bangalore International Lounge.
- BOM : airport lounge (MALS - Mumbai Airport Lounge Services).
- DEL : Encalm Lounge on 2nd floor, accessible via elevator
- HKG :AFKL pax use the Qantas Lounge (reviews here and here with 2023 pictures)
- HND (Int’l terminal) : JL Sakura lounge (more info here). There is also a DL SkyClub accessible to AF pax. AF P pax and FB Ultimates can use the JAL 1st class lounge near gate 112 in T3.
- ICN : KE lounge. See here. Note April 2018 : since this review, AFKL have moved operations to new terminal 2 and use the new KE lounge in T2.
- KIX : KIX Airside lounge.
- NOU : SB Hibiscus lounge (accessible to AF pax only when flying J between NOU and NRT or KIX, in connection with an AF flight to CDG).
- NRT : Premier lounge (Terminal 1). more info
- PEK (T2) : Skyteam lounge. More info here and here and here. Update DEC 2018 : Lounge temporarily (?) closed. Pax can use the T2 BGS lounge.
- PPT : TN lounge (Manuhiri lounge).
- PVG (T1) : P pax: MU "lounge 36" (gate 18). J and Elite+ pax: lounge 37 (gate 18) or 39 (just after security)
- SGN : VN lounge.
- SIN :
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- TPE : CI lounge (Dynasty lounge). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- WUH : Airport lounge. Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
CARIBBEAN & INDIAN OCEAN
- FDF : AF lounge.
- HAV : airport lounge.
- MLE : Leeli lounge
- MRU : MK lounge. More Info
- PAP : ?
- PTP : AF lounge.
- PUJ : airport lounge (VIP Lounge Punta Cana)
- RUN : AF lounge.
- SDQ : airport lounge (Sala VIP Caribe) More Info
- SEZ: airport lounge.
- SXM : airport lounge (Soualiga). Note 12/2021: lounge closed
- TNR : Constellation lounge
MIDDLE EAST
- AMM : airport lounge (Crown lounge). Note : route suspended since beginning of pandemic
- AUH (Term. A): Pearl lounge. More info here
- BEY : MEA Cedar lounge. More info here
- CAI (T2): SV Alfursan lounge. More info here
- DXB : Skyteam lounge in terminal 1 concourse D (more info here). AF P & Ultimate pax use the Ahlan lounge (more info on Ahlan lounge here).
- JED : (SV Lounge) Al Fursan Lounge. Info Here
- RUH (T2) : Contract lounge (Wellcome Lounge) Info here
- TLV (T3) : Airport lounges (Dan lounge, one at Concourse B and one at Concourse C). See info here
AFRICA
- ABJ : airport lounge (Aeria).
- ABV : airport lounge (FAAN VIP lounge)
- ACC: Akwaaba Lounge
- AGA : Pearl lounge. More info here
- ALG : AH lounge.
- BGF : airport lounge.
- BKO : airport lounge.
- BZV : ?
- CKY : airport lounge.
- CMN : AT lounge. More info here.
- COO : airport lounge.
- CPT : International - BidVest airport lounge
- DAR : CIP lounge. More info here
- DLA : AF lounge.
- DSS (New Dakar airport): Infinity lounge
- FIH : "VIP Départs" lounge. More info here
- FNA : airport lounge.
- JIB : AF lounge. More info here.
- JNB : SLOW lounge (P pax have access to a special controlled access VIP room with a butler in the SLOW lounge) - More info here. Note that the AF/KL lounge is closed permanently since April 1st, 2016. A review (with pics) of the ex AF lounge can be read here
- LAD : TAAG lounge.
- LBV : airport lounge.
- LFW: airport lounge (salon Union). More info here
- LOS : AF lounge.
- MBA : Safari lounge
- NBO : KQ lounge (Simba or Pride lounge). More info here. Note: Simba lounge is closed and may not reopen. Pride lounge is open.
- NDJ : ?
- NIM : airport lounge.
- NKC : airport lounge.
- ORN : VIP Egsa lounge
- OUA : airport lounge (Regie).
- PHC : airport lounge. Note : route to be suspended from end March 2019.
- PNR : airport lounge (HAT Enterprises).
- RAK : AT Oasis Lounge. More info here
- RBA : airport lounge (Pearl lounge). More info here
- ROB : ?
- SSG : Sala VIP lounge
- TNG : Pearl lounge
- TUN : TU lounge. More info here
- ZNZ : no lounge
Paid access for AF-operated lounges (as of 14 July 2023 for CDG/ORY lounges. Info for other lounges are dated from 17 OCT 2018 and are likely outdated):
FRANCE CDG & ORY
Advanced booking is possible online (in MMB), except for ORY2 (Schengen) lounge and one can pay in cash or miles. FB Silver members get 25% off if booked online at least 24hrs before flight (except ORY2 as it's not possible to pre-book the option for this lounge).There is no more 25% rebate for W pax applicable in CDG/ORY lounges.
- ORY3 (non-Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- ORY2 (Schengen) : adult 30€ or 6,000 miles; child 15€ or 3,000 miles.
- CDG 2F (Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- CDG 2E (non-Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
- CDG 2G (Schengen) : adult 75€ or 15,000 miles; child 35€ or 7,000 miles.
OTHER FRANCE STATIONS (Outdated info)
BOD : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
EUROPE (non-France) (Outdated info)
- FRA : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- MUC : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- STR : 25 EUR or 6000 miles (lounge closed since beginning of pandemic)
- GVA : 40 CHF or 6000 miles
NORTH AMERICA (Outdated info)
- BOS : 35 USD or 6000 miles
- JFK : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- IAD : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- IAH : 35 USD or 6000 miles
- SFO : 50 USD or 6000 miles
- YYZ : 35 CAD or 6000 miles
- YUL : ?
APAC (Outdated info)
- BKK : 1000 THB or 6000 miles
AFRICA / MIDDLE EAST (Outdated info)
- DLA : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- LOS : ?
CARRIBEAN / INDIAN OCEAN (Outdated info)
- PTP : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- FDF : 25 EUR or 6000 miles
- RUN : 30 EUR or 6000 miles
- CAY : ?
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Air France lounges and contract lounges master thread
Dec 5, 2023, 5:51 am
#2567
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Somewhere between BHX and HUY
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Eurobonus Silver, ALL Gold
Posts: 1,674
Here to report some shocking news.
The Aspire in Humberside no longer has a free service bar. All the alcohol is now locked behind reception and on demand only.
Probably some legal requirement to fulfil. Not the end of the world, given the lounge is always empty, and the lounge lady kindly took orders at the tables too.
I also noticed posters advertising for paid drinks: prosecco, champagne, and cocktails.
The Aspire in Humberside no longer has a free service bar. All the alcohol is now locked behind reception and on demand only.
Probably some legal requirement to fulfil. Not the end of the world, given the lounge is always empty, and the lounge lady kindly took orders at the tables too.
I also noticed posters advertising for paid drinks: prosecco, champagne, and cocktails.
Dec 5, 2023, 10:56 am
#2569
Join Date: May 2022
Location: DTW, HNL
Programs: DL PM, MM
Posts: 16
CDG Term 2E (Hall K) AF lounge access?
Wife and I just back from FLR-CDG-DTW return flight. I'm DL Plat, Amex Delta Reserve. Wife is also Amex Delta Reserve. We flew via AMS on our outbound flight and had a lovely experience with no hassles at the KLM lounge. We've flown to Europe maybe 30 times. I know how to smile, be polite and respectful, behave.
Yet on the return, the AF lounge host at CDG Term 2E (Hall K) scanned my ticket (on my phone) and declined access. "Only passengers who have purchased a business-class ticket may use the lounge," he informed me. (Which is surely incorrect, no?) But then he scanned my wife's ticket (on her phone) and welcomed her in. I asked why there was no problem for her (we were both flying Economy on tickets purchased together with the same confirmation code) but there was for me. He curtly asked for my phone again, waved it under the scanner, and announced that we could both enter. No explanation.
Our return flights (FLR-CDG, CDG-DTW) were booked with DL flight numbers but were both on AF metal. I checked us in for the flights via the AF website, per the instructions on the Delta app. My boarding pass says "Sky Priority".
My understanding is that as DL Plat, I have access to the lounge. Am I incorrect? Thanks.
Yet on the return, the AF lounge host at CDG Term 2E (Hall K) scanned my ticket (on my phone) and declined access. "Only passengers who have purchased a business-class ticket may use the lounge," he informed me. (Which is surely incorrect, no?) But then he scanned my wife's ticket (on her phone) and welcomed her in. I asked why there was no problem for her (we were both flying Economy on tickets purchased together with the same confirmation code) but there was for me. He curtly asked for my phone again, waved it under the scanner, and announced that we could both enter. No explanation.
Our return flights (FLR-CDG, CDG-DTW) were booked with DL flight numbers but were both on AF metal. I checked us in for the flights via the AF website, per the instructions on the Delta app. My boarding pass says "Sky Priority".
My understanding is that as DL Plat, I have access to the lounge. Am I incorrect? Thanks.
Dec 5, 2023, 11:13 am
#2570
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 2,402
Wife and I just back from FLR-CDG-DTW return flight. I'm DL Plat, Amex Delta Reserve. Wife is also Amex Delta Reserve. We flew via AMS on our outbound flight and had a lovely experience with no hassles at the KLM lounge. We've flown to Europe maybe 30 times. I know how to smile, be polite and respectful, behave.
Yet on the return, the AF lounge host at CDG Term 2E (Hall K) scanned my ticket (on my phone) and declined access. "Only passengers who have purchased a business-class ticket may use the lounge," he informed me. (Which is surely incorrect, no?) But then he scanned my wife's ticket (on her phone) and welcomed her in. I asked why there was no problem for her (we were both flying Economy on tickets purchased together with the same confirmation code) but there was for me. He curtly asked for my phone again, waved it under the scanner, and announced that we could both enter. No explanation.
Our return flights (FLR-CDG, CDG-DTW) were booked with DL flight numbers but were both on AF metal. I checked us in for the flights via the AF website, per the instructions on the Delta app. My boarding pass says "Sky Priority".
My understanding is that as DL Plat, I have access to the lounge. Am I incorrect? Thanks.
Yet on the return, the AF lounge host at CDG Term 2E (Hall K) scanned my ticket (on my phone) and declined access. "Only passengers who have purchased a business-class ticket may use the lounge," he informed me. (Which is surely incorrect, no?) But then he scanned my wife's ticket (on her phone) and welcomed her in. I asked why there was no problem for her (we were both flying Economy on tickets purchased together with the same confirmation code) but there was for me. He curtly asked for my phone again, waved it under the scanner, and announced that we could both enter. No explanation.
Our return flights (FLR-CDG, CDG-DTW) were booked with DL flight numbers but were both on AF metal. I checked us in for the flights via the AF website, per the instructions on the Delta app. My boarding pass says "Sky Priority".
My understanding is that as DL Plat, I have access to the lounge. Am I incorrect? Thanks.
I suspect that Hall K and Hall M lounge dragons end up rejecting enough DL Reserve/Amex Platinum/SkyClub members every morning (since no DL flights use Hall L, that lounge might be different) who don't realize that being able to get into a SkyClub back home has almost no bearing on access in CDG that it's a reasonable assumption that a rejection isn't a misscan.
Dec 5, 2023, 1:28 pm
#2571
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 1999
Programs: FB Silver going for Gold
Posts: 21,807
At the YVR ST lounge.
Since last report (2021), food service has reopen. Hot food bar as well as hot & cold buffet. Food o.k. to tide you over but not the greatest.
Drinks bar but not self serve. Good selection of wines, most from BC. Spanish cava for sparkling.\
DIdn't use the washroom but my wife reports the need patching up and the (apparently) newly-installed sinks could have used a better design selection.
Since last report (2021), food service has reopen. Hot food bar as well as hot & cold buffet. Food o.k. to tide you over but not the greatest.
Drinks bar but not self serve. Good selection of wines, most from BC. Spanish cava for sparkling.\
DIdn't use the washroom but my wife reports the need patching up and the (apparently) newly-installed sinks could have used a better design selection.
Might write a report if none exists
Dec 10, 2023, 12:57 pm
#2573
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Somewhere between BHX and HUY
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Eurobonus Silver, ALL Gold
Posts: 1,674
BRU Diamond lounge
Name of the lounge
Diamond lounge terminal A
Location
After the shops above concourse A, follow signs for the Loft but a little bit deeper.
Opening Hours
05:00-21:00
Entry requirements
Skyteam or priority pass
Food offer
Hot buffet, cold buffet, pastries/waffles
Drinks offer
Beer on tap (Stella, Leffe), bottled beer (Hoegarden, Bellevue Kriek, Jupiler zero), wine, soft drinks, bottom shelf spirits
Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: unsure
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: unsure
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: m'enfin
TV area: no
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: no
Other information
Number of seats: ~100
Level of noise: moderate
Design: nothing special
View: open window on landside, and over concourse A
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no
Plugs/USB chargers: plugs only, on limited seats
Other:
Overview of lounge
Well stocked fridge
Taps
Cold biffet
Pastry and coffee corner
2 choice of warm food + rice
Diamond lounge terminal A
Location
After the shops above concourse A, follow signs for the Loft but a little bit deeper.
Opening Hours
05:00-21:00
Entry requirements
Skyteam or priority pass
Food offer
Hot buffet, cold buffet, pastries/waffles
Drinks offer
Beer on tap (Stella, Leffe), bottled beer (Hoegarden, Bellevue Kriek, Jupiler zero), wine, soft drinks, bottom shelf spirits
Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: unsure
Toilets: yes
Quiet zone: unsure
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: m'enfin
TV area: no
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: no
Other information
Number of seats: ~100
Level of noise: moderate
Design: nothing special
View: open window on landside, and over concourse A
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no
Plugs/USB chargers: plugs only, on limited seats
Other:
Overview of lounge
Well stocked fridge
Taps
Cold biffet
Pastry and coffee corner
2 choice of warm food + rice
Dec 27, 2023, 1:04 pm
#2575
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 587
Hello- first time flying AF, so a complete newbie questions - there are four of us (one 5 year old) that are flying RDU to CDG to VIE with a long 7 hour layover in CDG. (arrive at 815 AM)
1. Based on historical data, the flight to VIE leaves from 2F - is this correct?
2. We want to purchase lounge access - looks like you can purchase in advance - we have award tickets (economy) - can I just add the access to the tickets online? I can't find a way when looking?
3. Is there any advantage in purchasing ahead of time?
4. Is there a decent chance we get turned away because it is full?
5. The "relaxation area" - Is it actually possible to get some sleep there? (lay down, etc) - obviously I would only take the little one there if she is NOT fussy and is quite.
thanks again all
1. Based on historical data, the flight to VIE leaves from 2F - is this correct?
2. We want to purchase lounge access - looks like you can purchase in advance - we have award tickets (economy) - can I just add the access to the tickets online? I can't find a way when looking?
3. Is there any advantage in purchasing ahead of time?
4. Is there a decent chance we get turned away because it is full?
5. The "relaxation area" - Is it actually possible to get some sleep there? (lay down, etc) - obviously I would only take the little one there if she is NOT fussy and is quite.
thanks again all
Dec 27, 2023, 1:50 pm
#2576
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Boston, MA, USA
Programs: FB LTPE, BAEC GGL, EK Blue, SK Gold, Marriott Amb+LTT, IHG Diamond Amb, Accorhotels Silver
Posts: 1,960
I don't think there is any discount, no.
Yes there is, lounge in 2F is very often full.
Keep your expectations low. There are some loungers, but privacy is minimal.
Dec 27, 2023, 3:57 pm
#2577
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,065
VIE will always leave from 2F. That is, the CDG flight.
There are some discounts for advance purchase of lounge access for FB members.
There is a chance to be turned away, but I don't agree that 2F is "very often" full. Not to capacity, anyway, even if guests might feel it's "full" to the point of "I start being uncomfortable with finding a seat", I doubt it's actual to capacity full very often. Either way if it was, you'd be refunded your entrance fee in full.
sleeping - not really. I would say it's feasible to bring a baby in there to be isolated from general to and fro, but only if you have a baby carrier that she can sleep in (i.e. you put it down next to the lounger and nap)
There are some discounts for advance purchase of lounge access for FB members.
There is a chance to be turned away, but I don't agree that 2F is "very often" full. Not to capacity, anyway, even if guests might feel it's "full" to the point of "I start being uncomfortable with finding a seat", I doubt it's actual to capacity full very often. Either way if it was, you'd be refunded your entrance fee in full.
sleeping - not really. I would say it's feasible to bring a baby in there to be isolated from general to and fro, but only if you have a baby carrier that she can sleep in (i.e. you put it down next to the lounger and nap)
Dec 27, 2023, 5:02 pm
#2578
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 587
VIE will always leave from 2F. That is, the CDG flight.
There are some discounts for advance purchase of lounge access for FB members.
There is a chance to be turned away, but I don't agree that 2F is "very often" full. Not to capacity, anyway, even if guests might feel it's "full" to the point of "I start being uncomfortable with finding a seat", I doubt it's actual to capacity full very often. Either way if it was, you'd be refunded your entrance fee in full.
sleeping - not really. I would say it's feasible to bring a baby in there to be isolated from general to and fro, but only if you have a baby carrier that she can sleep in (i.e. you put it down next to the lounger and nap)
There are some discounts for advance purchase of lounge access for FB members.
There is a chance to be turned away, but I don't agree that 2F is "very often" full. Not to capacity, anyway, even if guests might feel it's "full" to the point of "I start being uncomfortable with finding a seat", I doubt it's actual to capacity full very often. Either way if it was, you'd be refunded your entrance fee in full.
sleeping - not really. I would say it's feasible to bring a baby in there to be isolated from general to and fro, but only if you have a baby carrier that she can sleep in (i.e. you put it down next to the lounger and nap)
We are FB members, so I will check on the price, if we pay in advance, and then the lounge is full, we would get refunded? if so, it is worth it to save a few $$, if not, will pay the price at the lounge.
I won't have a baby, but a pre-schooler, I saw the loungers, from what I read they are often full, so I shouldn't count on them, but I could lay her down and if she sleeps, one of us waits outside the curtains (assuming seats nearby)
Dec 29, 2023, 8:27 pm
#2580
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: PAR, TYO, SEL, SIN, SYD
Programs: AF/KLM Platinum Ultimate, VA Velocity Platinum, ALL Platinum
Posts: 716
Haven’t seen anyone do it so heres a review of the QF J lounge in SIN from early December. Thank you again AF/KL for the change, went from one of the worst lounges in SIN to one of the best.
Qantas Business Lounge Singapore
Name of the lounge
Qantas Business Class Lounge
Location
Left from immigration and up the escalators
Opening Hours
07:50-10:00
14:45-01:00(+1)
Entry requirements
J ticket on any oneworld carrier or AF/KL (Including to DPS)
STE+ when flying AF/KL
Food offer
Hot buffet, cold buffet, staffed bar
Drinks offer
Variety of spirits and cocktails made to serve at the bar
Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: yes (around 10-12 rooms from what I saw)
Toilets: yes
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: yes
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: can’t remember
Other information
Number of seats: ~550
Level of noise: rather quiet but can get crowded
Design: very big lounge with multiple areas, comfortable seating. Wood and marble, pleasant design.
View: views over T1 check-in area
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no
Plugs/USB chargers: plugs, can’t remember if there are USB chargers.
Other:
Main lounging areas
Hot buffet
T1 view
Its a really solid lounge especially in the morning as its dead quiet (only the 3x weekly AF flight departs during that time).
And for those connecting onwards to Australia on QF in J I’d still recommend the QR lounge which is absolutely phenomenal and is probably the best business lounge I’ve ever been to.
Qantas Business Lounge Singapore
Name of the lounge
Qantas Business Class Lounge
Location
Left from immigration and up the escalators
Opening Hours
07:50-10:00
14:45-01:00(+1)
Entry requirements
J ticket on any oneworld carrier or AF/KL (Including to DPS)
STE+ when flying AF/KL
Food offer
Hot buffet, cold buffet, staffed bar
Drinks offer
Variety of spirits and cocktails made to serve at the bar
Services
Wifi: yes
Showers: yes (around 10-12 rooms from what I saw)
Toilets: yes
Loungers/sleep area: no
Business area: no
Spa: no
TV area: yes
Passengers are called: no
Information screen: yes
Newspapers: can’t remember
Other information
Number of seats: ~550
Level of noise: rather quiet but can get crowded
Design: very big lounge with multiple areas, comfortable seating. Wood and marble, pleasant design.
View: views over T1 check-in area
Multi floors: no
Terrace: no
Smoking area: no
Direct boarding: no
Plugs/USB chargers: plugs, can’t remember if there are USB chargers.
Other:
Main lounging areas
Hot buffet
T1 view
Its a really solid lounge especially in the morning as its dead quiet (only the 3x weekly AF flight departs during that time).
And for those connecting onwards to Australia on QF in J I’d still recommend the QR lounge which is absolutely phenomenal and is probably the best business lounge I’ve ever been to.