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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Aug 1, 12, 4:56 pm
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I did eyeball the EC seats on the 767-300 on the LAX-HNL route and they appeared to have about 2 inches more legroom.

Not nearly enough in my opinion for a comfortable 6 hour flight. I suspect it is marketed for the Kettles who have no other way to get priority boarding and free bags.

For a FF the exit seats when wisely chosen are much better. Even better yet, is a miles only upgrade to F. (not automatic on the mainland-Hi flights with DL)

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Old Aug 2, 12, 2:33 pm
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I didn't see this earlier, but how are 20A and 20F on a Domestic 752 that has AVOD? I'm debating between those and 26D on a BOS-SLC flight next month.
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Old Aug 3, 12, 7:18 am
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New thread that may be useful for non-EC information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l#post19052052
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Old Aug 3, 12, 8:20 am
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I was on a 752 EC seat with AVOD on a flight from Mexico last week, but FA said not free for ECers. "Only Europe and Asia."
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Old Aug 3, 12, 9:56 am
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Ive snagged 18G on a 764 LHR-ATL in October (last EC row). Can anyone tell me what the view will be of out the window? Im hoping for a decnt view of the forward engine pod, but have a feeling its more likely to be the leading edge slats...
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Old Aug 3, 12, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by Luke Kelland View Post
Ive snagged 18G on a 764 LHR-ATL in October (last EC row). Can anyone tell me what the view will be of out the window? Im hoping for a decnt view of the forward engine pod, but have a feeling its more likely to be the leading edge slats...
Row 18 is over the wing.
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Old Aug 3, 12, 10:30 am
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Am I right in thinking that 18G will also have an AVOD box under the seat in front?
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Old Aug 6, 12, 2:52 am
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Not sure if this was just the MD-88 I happened to be on or is the case for all MD-88s, but 11D-E had non-moveable armrests just like the bulkhead. 11A-C did not, nor did any rows behind.

Also, I'm sure this was still the case before EC, but the curtain separating F from Y pretty much falls into 10C's lap, which could be quite annoying.
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Old Aug 6, 12, 3:30 am
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Originally Posted by javabytes View Post
Not sure if this was just the MD-88 I happened to be on or is the case for all MD-88s, but 11D-E had non-moveable armrests just like the bulkhead. 11A-C did not, nor did any rows behind.

Also, I'm sure this was still the case before EC, but the curtain separating F from Y pretty much falls into 10C's lap, which could be quite annoying.
Thanks - I've updated post #1!
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Old Aug 6, 12, 3:25 pm
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Thanks - I've updated post #1!
10 D/E are the best EC seats - lots of leg room and underseat storage. Never saw any problems in that row regrarding the FC/EC curtain.
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Old Aug 7, 12, 4:31 am
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32b/c vs Row 12EC ON MD88

Haven't flown coach in ages but partner and I (PMs) actually found a way to use Amex companion certs and save quite a bit.

Choice is the "bulkHead" row 32 or 12 in Econ comfort. On our usual md88 routes we end up with u/g.

Thoughts?
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Old Aug 7, 12, 4:41 am
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Row 12 is the last row of EC, which some do not like because they do not want to impede on the first row of Y if they recline.

You may be better off in the exit row.
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Old Aug 7, 12, 5:09 am
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32B/C are some of the worst seats on the reconfigured MD-88s. They are not actually bulkhead seats, there is no wall there. They are narrower than the other seats to accommodate the rear-facing FA jumpseat where 32A would be, and the emergency exit. Also, any extra legroom 32B gets is largely eaten up by the box for the flight attendant's phone. 32C has some extra legroom but is still narrower than average. Plus the flight attendant will be getting up and crossing right in front of you multiple times during the flight. There is no way these should be labeled Green by SeatGuru. Row 12 would be the clear winner in my book.

Also, I don't believe the domestic EC seats recline any more than regular economy seats, so you won't be eating up any more of the person's space behind you than you would if you reclined in a typical economy seat. Some people still feel bad about having extra legroom AND reclining into the poor soul behind you... but hey, reclining exit row seats have always been the holy grail until EC.
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Old Aug 7, 12, 7:37 am
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Take the EC seats, unless you can snag 33A.

As javabytes explained, row 32 is nothing special; a little extra legroom and close proximity to a flight attendant. 33A offers "unlimited" legroom and probably the best window view on the plane (if you're into that sort of thing).
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Old Aug 7, 12, 9:37 am
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I'm Flying from Madrid to JFK DL127 (767-300) and was seriously considering upgrading from a standard economy seat to economy comfort

Seems like most seats in the economy comfort section are open including the first row (17) and one exit row, (21G). seems like an exit window with full recline but it's right near the Lavatory.

The aircraft seems to be an updated 763 (since exit rows 20 and 21 are EC). I was curious whether row 17 on these updated aircrafts have "endless legroom" or should I go 21G which is right near the lavatory but an exit row? I'm generally concerned with stretching my legs out and getting some sleep in for this longer flight.

Any tips would be much appreciated!
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