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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Dec 25, 2013, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
Also, keep in mind that there are literally almost a dozen lavs in Y. In theory, that means that 350 wouldn't be congregating at the lavs in front of you and 22ABC. However, whether the other passengers know there are like 10 more lavs is a different story.
On the 74S, the lav in front of 22HJK is technically a BE lav, though this is only somewhat sporadically enforced. The lav in front of 22ABC is a Y lav and seems to have somewhat more traffic. Not huge numbers, but I personally would avoid those seats. Also, they're bassinet seats, IIRC, and you're very likely to have a small child nearby.

As a side note, people tend to only notice the lavs in front of them. If there are queues at the row 22 or row 43 lavs, you can probably just walk to the back and find almost no wait at the row 67 lavs.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 7:10 am
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We're flying r/t on an A330-300 from JFK-BCN. We've purchased EC one way so far. We're both 5`8", slim built and don't drink alcohol so the complimentary drinks don't interest us (would be nice if we could substitute that for maybe a meal from FC :-) ). Based on this information do you think we'd be fine with a regular economy seat?
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by joyus
We're flying r/t on an A330-300 from JFK-BCN. We've purchased EC one way so far. We're both 5`8", slim built and don't drink alcohol so the complimentary drinks don't interest us (would be nice if we could substitute that for maybe a meal from FC :-) ). Based on this information do you think we'd be fine with a regular economy seat?
You'd probably be fine in regular Y.

I do not drink alcohol and am short...but do appreciate the extra recline and legroom that comes with EC.
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Old Dec 26, 2013, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by joyus
We're flying r/t on an A330-300 from JFK-BCN. We've purchased EC one way so far. We're both 5`8", slim built and don't drink alcohol so the complimentary drinks don't interest us (would be nice if we could substitute that for maybe a meal from FC :-) ). Based on this information do you think we'd be fine with a regular economy seat?
Legroom and recline are the tangible extras that you get. I find Intl EC a bit better for sleeping with the extra recline.
This would be important if the JFK BCN flight is overnight redeye.
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Old Dec 29, 2013, 4:35 am
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Cool Delta 767-300 (domestic)

We are flying DL1105 - SLC to HNL. The Delta seat map show this as a 767-300 in the domestic config. We have selected EC seats 13F/G. Various online sources indicate that Row 12 or Row 13 do not have windows. If it is Row 13 that does not have a window, I am thinking of moving to 10A/B. Insight and recommends?
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Old Dec 29, 2013, 4:44 am
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Cool Delta 767-300 (domestic)

We are flying DL1105 - SLC to HNL. The Delta seat map show this as a 767-300 in the domestic config. We have selected EC seats 13F/G. Various online sources indicate that Row 12 or Row 13 do not have windows. If it is Row 13 that does not have a window, I am thinking of moving to 10A/B. Insight and recommends?
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Old Dec 30, 2013, 9:14 pm
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I flew SFO-JFK on the 757 Transcon (75E?) last week. I fly this route a lot and always sit in economy comfort and am generally pleased with the extra legroom. Last week seats 21ABC and 22ABC were marked as EC, but didn't have any extra legroom. It was bizarre. The D,E,F seats in those rows had the usual extra legroom. People on the ABC side were not happy, myself included. It seemed to be a problem with this one particular plane since my outbound flight in the same seats a few days earlier had plenty of extra space.

I complained and received 7500 miles for my troubles which is probably about the nominal value of the seat ($79) on this flight.

Anyone else have this type of experience with seats varying within the cabin of a particular plane?
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Old Dec 30, 2013, 9:22 pm
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Also, looking at the info in the wiki, it says the 75E only has EC on the ABC side. I think they have all been reconfigured to have 19-22 ABC and 18-22 DEF as EC seats. It has been this way on the transcons for a while. Someone might want to update that in the wiki.
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Old Dec 31, 2013, 4:51 am
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Originally Posted by kilbornr
Also, looking at the info in the wiki, it says the 75E only has EC on the ABC side. I think they have all been reconfigured to have 19-22 ABC and 18-22 DEF as EC seats. It has been this way on the transcons for a while. Someone might want to update that in the wiki.
Now fixed.

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Old Jan 7, 2014, 9:35 pm
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Seat help 777-200

Long time creeper, first time posting. Not sure if I am posting in the correct thread or not, so I apologize in advance.

I am flying from Tokyo NRT to Minnespolis and wanted recommendations on seating. The plane is a 777-200.

Currently we have seats 44B and 44C (exit rows) and I am wondering, if in your opinion, it is worth it to upgrade to Econ Comfort seats 31E / 31F (center bulkhead) or other non-first row econ comfort seats?

I am a silver, so the cost to upgrade prior to checkin would be 180.00. I realize that I would get free booze, but more interested in leg-room. I have a bad back and flights over 2 hours are painful.

(Having trouble posting a pic of the seat map.....maybe due to it being my first post, no pics allowed???)

Anyway, ideally the seats in 31 (b/c or g/h) open up at check in...then it won't cost me anything...but who knows of that will happen.

Thanks in advance!!
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Old Jan 8, 2014, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by 084runnerltd
Long time creeper, first time posting. Not sure if I am posting in the correct thread or not, so I apologize in advance.

I am flying from Tokyo NRT to Minnespolis and wanted recommendations on seating. The plane is a 777-200.

Currently we have seats 44B and 44C (exit rows) and I am wondering, if in your opinion, it is worth it to upgrade to Econ Comfort seats 31E / 31F (center bulkhead) or other non-first row econ comfort seats?

I am a silver, so the cost to upgrade prior to checkin would be 180.00. I realize that I would get free booze, but more interested in leg-room. I have a bad back and flights over 2 hours are painful.

(Having trouble posting a pic of the seat map.....maybe due to it being my first post, no pics allowed???)

Anyway, ideally the seats in 31 (b/c or g/h) open up at check in...then it won't cost me anything...but who knows of that will happen.

Thanks in advance!!
084runnerltd,

Welcome to FT!

If you look in post #1, I've posted pics of the leg room in row 31 - I find it very good. There's also a power outlet at these seats.

Whether or not the $180 is worth it, is really up to you.

Also, as this is an international flight, EC is not free at OLCI as it is for domestic flights.

I hope this helps!
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Old Jan 8, 2014, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by 084runnerltd
Long time creeper, first time posting. Not sure if I am posting in the correct thread or not, so I apologize in advance.

I am flying from Tokyo NRT to Minnespolis and wanted recommendations on seating. The plane is a 777-200.

Currently we have seats 44B and 44C (exit rows) and I am wondering, if in your opinion, it is worth it to upgrade to Econ Comfort seats 31E / 31F (center bulkhead) or other non-first row econ comfort seats?

I am a silver, so the cost to upgrade prior to checkin would be 180.00. I realize that I would get free booze, but more interested in leg-room. I have a bad back and flights over 2 hours are painful.

(Having trouble posting a pic of the seat map.....maybe due to it being my first post, no pics allowed???)

Anyway, ideally the seats in 31 (b/c or g/h) open up at check in...then it won't cost me anything...but who knows of that will happen.

Thanks in advance!!
I flew MSP-NRT-SIN on the 777 a month ago. I was in 44H for the first leg and 31D for the second one. I was much more comfortable in the second seat than the first. For me, that extra bit of recline makes a big difference. There is plenty of legroom in 31; at 5'3" my feet do not reach the bulkhead if I stretch them straight out. I brought my backpack down from the overhead and used it as a footrest. The advantage I could see to the non-bulkhead row for two people is being able to raise the armrest.
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Old Jan 8, 2014, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by CarmenOM
I flew MSP-NRT-SIN on the 777 a month ago. I was in 44H for the first leg and 31D for the second one. I was much more comfortable in the second seat than the first. For me, that extra bit of recline makes a big difference. There is plenty of legroom in 31; at 5'3" my feet do not reach the bulkhead if I stretch them straight out. I brought my backpack down from the overhead and used it as a footrest. The advantage I could see to the non-bulkhead row for two people is being able to raise the armrest.
Thanks....just paid for the upgrade.
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Old Jan 8, 2014, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by rwoman
084runnerltd,

Welcome to FT!

If you look in post #1, I've posted pics of the leg room in row 31 - I find it very good. There's also a power outlet at these seats.

Whether or not the $180 is worth it, is really up to you.

Also, as this is an international flight, EC is not free at OLCI as it is for domestic flights.

I hope this helps!
Yes it helps...for some reason I was think EC was for silver if I waited til check-in...must just be on domestic.

So if people dont purchase the seats at check-in and there arent enough Gold, Plat, Diamonds to fill EC, they Delta will leave the EC seats empty? I know I am only a silver which is as low as they come, but I am surprised they would do this.

Thanks
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Old Jan 8, 2014, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by 084runnerltd
Yes it helps...for some reason I was think EC was for silver if I waited til check-in...must just be on domestic.

So if people dont purchase the seats at check-in and there arent enough Gold, Plat, Diamonds to fill EC, they Delta will leave the EC seats empty? I know I am only a silver which is as low as they come, but I am surprised they would do this.

Thanks
Yes, on international flights DL only allows DM, PM, their companions, full Y fares, and those who paid in EC.

If regular economy is completely full, I've seen them offer lower elites the seat.

I'm always glad when the FAs address seat poaching.
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