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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 5:57 am
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Flying on a 757 this evening, 22 ABC and D show as EC but not EF. Any idea why?
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by MichaelKade
Flying on a 757 this evening, 22 ABC and D show as EC but not EF. Any idea why?
Could be a seat map glitch; I've never seen one seat in a row be EC when others are not.

20A on the 752ER comes to mind; not shown as an EC but a blue preferred seat...although it is in fact an EC seat. I think the motivation here is because of the slide on the exit door. The situation could be similar with something impacting leg room.
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Could be a seat map glitch; I've never seen one seat in a row be EC when others are not.

20A on the 752ER comes to mind; not shown as an EC but a blue preferred seat...although it is in fact an EC seat. I think the motivation here is because of the slide on the exit door. The situation could be similar with something impacting leg room.
Thanks!
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI
Two quick questions:

1. On a transcon 752 (SFO-JFK) with lie-flat seats up front, is 35F with extra leg room better than a middle EC (Comfort+) seat? Or should I take the middle seat and enjoy the extra bennies of EC?
2. On a transcon 738 (JFK-SEA) is the second exit row window better than a middle EC (C+) seat?

Thanks for your advice. Leg room is important and I definitely prefer window seats but I also like the idea of having power and at least on the 752 it's not available in 35F.
1. 35F is a great seat. Lots of leg room, and the row in front can't recline, so it's not too impossible to get out if 35D/E haven't lowered their tray tables. If you like window seats you'll love this one. There is USB power at the seat, and IME SFO-JFK is short enough that I can usually get away without plugging in my laptop.

2. I'd got with the exit row, although the seat will be less cushioned and narrower. Leg room will be similar, though IIRC better in the exit row. As you probably know, there's a 50/50 chance you'll get a 738 with no AVOD. I don't know if that version has power in EC.
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Old Dec 19, 2014, 7:33 am
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747-400 question:
can do 25 e or f for $$
or exit row 51 for free

I can't even believe i'm thinking of middle seats!!

but my question is how much more "recline" will i get in the 25 economy comfort seats?

I'm 6'4", so almost always better off with the leg room of the exits, but if I could get a "much greater" recline (VERY LONG FLIGHT) I might consider it.

Thanks for any thoughts.
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 9:21 am
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I have traveled in Economy Comfort many times but can't seem to remember which zone I boarded the aircraft. On delta.com, it mentions priority boarding but doesn't mention which zone either. Can anyone verify which zone is used for boarding Economy Comfort passengers?
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 10:06 am
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[QUOTE=CLTRob;24083109]I have traveled in Economy Comfort many times but can't seem to remember which zone I boarded the aircraft. On delta.com, it mentions priority boarding but doesn't mention which zone either. Can anyone verify which zone is used for boarding Economy Comfort passengers?[/QUOTE

Zone 1

From dl.com:
Priority Boarding

You’ll be able to board in Zone 1, so you can get your carry-ons stowed away sooner and have time to settle in for the flight.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...y-comfort.html
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Old Jan 1, 2015, 8:03 pm
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A Few Seat Reviews:

CRJ-700:

Seat 4D is great. The legroom is perfect and there's ample storage space under in front of you as there's no actual bulkhead but just a curtain. I'd rate it above Row 12 and definitely better than Row 5.





A-330-300
Row 11 is okay. The legroom and recline are decent, however, there's an equipment box under 10J that made it really hard to get my feet in a comfortable position when trying to sleep. I have a couple longhaul A-330s coming up and I'm going to go to with row 22 (exit row) instead. Not being able to stretch was really frustrating.

767-300
Row 14 is decent. I was in 14C and didn't experience the same equipment box issue like I did above. However, I think if I can I'm going to go for Row 13 next time. The legroom is really good despite being a bulkhead with an actual wall in front.



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Old Jan 2, 2015, 1:26 pm
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Zone 1
Which of course is the fourth zone to board, after pre boards, premium, and sky.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 1:57 pm
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Have I Made A Huge Mistake (Virgin Atlantic Codeshare)

For this year's instance of my yearly UK trip, seems that Delta have outsourced the route between Atlanta and Manchester to their partner Virgin Atlantic. After waffling back and forth I decided to go ahead and give it a go.

Having become addicted to Economy Comfort, especially when booking far in advance and being able to reserve bulkhead EC seats, I couldn't resist paying Virgin's premium for "Extra Legroom" seats. In this case, exit row on an A330-300.

Have I made a huge mistake? Any of you EC regulars flown on one of the Virgin Atlantic A330's? What should I expect, compared to my very satisfactory experiences the past couple years on Delta with EC?
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 4:30 pm
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Originally Posted by BrentHutto
For this year's instance of my yearly UK trip, seems that Delta have outsourced the route between Atlanta and Manchester to their partner Virgin Atlantic. After waffling back and forth I decided to go ahead and give it a go.

Having become addicted to Economy Comfort, especially when booking far in advance and being able to reserve bulkhead EC seats, I couldn't resist paying Virgin's premium for "Extra Legroom" seats. In this case, exit row on an A330-300.

Have I made a huge mistake? Any of you EC regulars flown on one of the Virgin Atlantic A330's? What should I expect, compared to my very satisfactory experiences the past couple years on Delta with EC?
You should expect, and will get, something better than EC and more like domestic F, with a footrest and a seat that's about 4" wider than EC seats. There are also designated restrooms for PE but they're right by the regular economy restrooms, so I don't think anyone notices the little signs designating them. I think the food is also better than regular economy, but I'm not certain about that; I've never checked to see what they're eating in back.

I have become hooked on the combination of greater comfort and 150% MQM for a modest price increase.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by CarmenOM
You should expect, and will get, something better than EC and more like domestic F, with a footrest and a seat that's about 4" wider than EC seats. There are also designated restrooms for PE but they're right by the regular economy restrooms, so I don't think anyone notices the little signs designating them. I think the food is also better than regular economy, but I'm not certain about that; I've never checked to see what they're eating in back.

I have become hooked on the combination of greater comfort and 150% MQM for a modest price increase.
This is a description of VS Premium Economy not their "Extra Legroom" seats which are economy seats with more legroom. Unlike EC, these seats do not have more recline. VS food is okay in Y.

For Seat Plus, see: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...om-teaser.html

For Premium Economy, see: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...m-economy.html
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by CarmenOM
You should expect, and will get, something better than EC and more like domestic F, with a footrest and a seat that's about 4" wider than EC seats. There are also designated restrooms for PE but they're right by the regular economy restrooms, so I don't think anyone notices the little signs designating them. I think the food is also better than regular economy, but I'm not certain about that; I've never checked to see what they're eating in back.

I have become hooked on the combination of greater comfort and 150% MQM for a modest price increase.
Originally Posted by rwoman
This is a description of VS Premium Economy not their "Extra Legroom" seats which are economy seats with more legroom. Unlike EC, these seats do not have more recline. VS food is okay in Y.

For Seat Plus, see: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...om-teaser.html

For Premium Economy, see: http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...m-economy.html
Sorry! I didn't read BrentHutto's post carefully enough and didn't catch that the question was about the extra legroom seats.
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Old Jan 4, 2015, 10:39 am
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On the CRJ 900, does row 5 have storage in front as with row 4 on the CRJ 700, or will all carry-on items need to be stowed? Trying to decide between row 5 and 7.

Thanks
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Old Jan 4, 2015, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by bml86
On the CRJ 900, does row 5 have storage in front as with row 4 on the CRJ 700, or will all carry-on items need to be stowed? Trying to decide between row 5 and 7.

Thanks
Yes there is space under the FC row 4 seats for underseat stowage. There is only a curtain separating the cabins.
AB is behind the single FC seats while CD is behind the two FC seats (more stowage room)
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