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Group 0 called before Group 1? (To post 1221)

AGP - mixed
No: 31st March (1059)
Yes: 2nd April (1166)

ALC - no
No: 1st April (1096)

AMS - mostly yes
Yes: 28th March (1038), 1st April (1106), 2nd April (1139)
No: 28th March (996)

ARN - yes
Yes: 27th March (923), 3rd April (1168)

ATH - no
No: 2nd April (1178)

ATL - yes
Yes: 28th March (1141)

BHD - no
No: 30th March (1044), 31st March (1082), 2nd April (1152)

BOM - no
No: 6th April (1216)

BOS - yes
Yes: 1st April (1084)

BRU - mixed
No: 1st April (1083)
Yes: 10th April (1312)

BSL - no
No: 30th March

BUD - mixed
Yes: 30th March (1043)
No: 30th March (1050)

CDG - mixed
No: 26th March (887), 2nd April (1175)
Yes: 28th March (987)

CUN - yes
Yes: 27th March (1030)

DOH - no
No: 3rd April (1164)

DUB - yes
Yes: 26th March (908), 27th March (951), 27th March (964), 29th March (1028), early April (1213)

EDI - yes
Yes: 26th March (919),27th March (912), 4th April (1185)

FNC - no
No: 31st March (1134)

GLA - yes
Yes: 26th March (895), 28th March (1035), 2nd April (1122), 2nd April (1139)

GOT - mixed
Yes: 28th March (975)
No: 1st April (1136)

GVA - yes
Yes: 28th March, 31st March (1137), 2nd April (1135)

HKG - yes
Yes: 2nd April (1163)

INN - no at bus gates
No: 28th March *bus gate* (968)

IST - no
No: 5th April (1197)

JER - mixed
No: (1039)
Yes: 3rd April (1174)

JFK - yes
Yes: 31st March (1087)

LAS - yes
Yes: 22nd April (1495)

LCY - yes
Yes: 27th March (916), 27th March (970), 2nd April (1171) 26th April

LGW - mostly yes
Yes: 26th March (905), 27th March (917), 28th March (965), 28th March (989), 28th March (1016), 28th March (1106), 31st March (1052), late March (1132)
No: 28th March (1166), 29th March (1010), 30th March (1042), early April (1182)

LHR - mostly yes
Yes: 26th March (883), 26th March (884), 27th March (913), 27th March (942),27th March (960), 28th March (1027), 29th March (1030), 29th March (1031), 30th March *bus gate* (1040),31st March (1074), 31st March (1082), 31st March (1082), 31st March *T3* (1136), 1st April (1107), 2nd April *T3* (1126), 2nd April *bus* (1139), 2nd April (1175), 4th April *T3* (1186), 4th April (1191), early April (1192), early April *T3* (1210), 4th April *bus* (1212), 6th April (1211), 6th April (1219), 8th April 2024 (1312)
No: 26th March (857), 26th March (861), 26th March (873), 26th March (895), 26th March (904), 27th March (959), 28th March *bus gate* (990), 29th March *T3* (1026), 30th March (1044), 30th March (1044), 31st March (1061), 1st April (1088), early April (1192), 12th April *T3* (1334), 24 April JFK

LPA - no
No: 3rd April (1183)

MAD - no
No: 1st April (1086)

MAN - yes
Yes: 27th March (937), 27th March (952), 29th March (1032), 11th April (1315)

MLA - no
No: 29th March (1036)

MLE - no
No: 28th March *bus* (1170)

MUC - no
No: 26th March (892)
Yes: 17 April (949)

NCE - mixed
No: 24 April
Yes: 30th April

NCL - not really, but generally straight on board
Not really: 1st April (1088), early April (1192)
No, when waiting in gate area: 3rd April (1211)

ORD - yes
Yes: 28th March (999), 28th March (1000)

OSL - yes
Yes: 3rd April (1160)

OTP - no
No: early April (1167)

POS - no
No: 2nd April (1184)

PRG - yes
Yes: 5th April (1198)

PSA - yes
Yes: 15th April

RTM - no
No: 5th April (1201)

RUH - yes
Yes: 27th March (939)

SOF - no
No: 14th April (1359)

SCL - yes
Yes: 4th Apil (1187)

SIN - mixed
No: 31st March (1073)
Yes: 6th April (1221)

SYD - mixed
No: 31st March (1049)
Yes: 7th April (1217)

TFS - no
No: early April (1182)

VIE - no
No: 6th April (1200)

ZRH - mixed
Yes: 26th March (958),31st March (1060), 1st April (1105)
No: 26th March (963), 5th April (1211)

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Group 0 boarding for GGL

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Mar 24, 2024, 5:02 am

#811

Markie

Moderator: Hyatt Gold Passport & Star Alliance

Join Date: May 1998

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswiles

Firstly no-one needs to be sitting in F before anyone else in long-haul. You're wiser being in CCR longer. Secondly there's hardly 100 in Group 1, ever! Even on flights to JFK in F, there's a couple of handful's of Group 1.

My experience is that it very much varies by aircraft. If you get one of the 8*F 777's with crew bunks above Row 1, there is no overhead space for those passengers and so overhead space can run out fairly fast in the First cabin.
It's fine on the A380 I find. My little wheelie fits in the coat closet by the seat quite nicely as it is too wide for the overhead above Row 1 where the plane starts to narrow.

Mar 24, 2024, 5:03 am

#812

Flying Doctor

Join Date: Nov 2006

Programs: MUCCI

Posts: 1,928

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswiles

For long haul agree. Sit in the CCR and enjoy the space. There is never an issue around overhead or wardrobe space in F even if it is completely full and everyone comes with 2 proper wheelie bags.
It is short haul that is the issue. Some flights can have 10+ rows of CE and if everyone has 2 bags that would almost fill the overhead bins. With passengers in Y I wish BA would do what someone posted happened a few years ago that the CC just took the bags out of the overhead bin and checked them in (or were going to). Passenger came storming up to which they said "we simply assumed that you wanted to check your bag in and left it for us to do so!" then the bag went back with the passenger......
FD.

Football Fan, EuropeanPete, ExpatExp and 4 others like this.

Mar 24, 2024, 5:15 am

#813

Finland Station

Join Date: Nov 2023

Programs: BAEC GGLfL

Posts: 521

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhite9185

Does group 0 go before or after half of the plane gets priority boarding due to gate checking their bag?

Yet to be worked out, I think is the answer to this one. On the two occasions at LHR that I have been "Group Zeroed" ahead of the formal introduction, I have been effectively pre-boarded into the area at the top of the escalator in advance of the carry-on cull. When boarding has commenced, I have been quick enough out of the traps to be the first on board. As I have already observed, it is a great improvement as you get physically ahead of the Group 1 Tensa-barrier siege.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markie

May have been lucky, but I have never had a problem stowing carry on in First. Not even close. For me, Group 0 has most benefit for short-haul.

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Last edited by Finland Station; Mar 24, 2024 at 5:22 am

Mar 24, 2024, 6:59 am

#814

avm2806

Join Date: Oct 2007

Location: LONDON

Programs: CX DM, BA G4L, QR PLT, EK PLT, Hyatt CC, HH DM, SQ SLTRE, BonvoyTit, UK SL, VS Wings, UA, DL, AA

Posts: 1,717

I have had 4 flights on trial sectors (LHR-JFK / LHR-BOS)
LHR-JFK flying first with CX Emerald - Group 0
LHR-JFK Flying first with BA gold - Group 0
LHR-JFK Flying first with CX emerald but booked on AA Codeshare - Group 1
LHR-BOS Flying first with BA Gold (Z class redemption) - Group 0

Will be interesting to see how does plays out with a wider roll out.

Mar 24, 2024, 7:32 am

#815

c1223

Join Date: Sep 2012

Location: Nottingham

Programs: BA GGL

Posts: 1,375

Quote:

Originally Posted by avm2806

Based on your profile (i.e. only BA Gold/OWE) and the flights you have posted, you should not have been in Group 0 for any flights. It's only for GGL and Premier.

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Mar 24, 2024, 8:01 am

#816

BrunswickSq

Join Date: Jul 2014

Posts: 124

Much of this thread is merely of theoretical interest to me as until I retire I won’t have the time to fly enough for 5000 TP.

However I do appreciate the views and experiences listed and I think BA should take them into account. Those who go through the system often know what works and what doesn’t, and have valid ideas about how to make things better - and if things are better for a GGL in First, eventually it gets better for me as a silver in CW.

Us “normals” have the same frustrations over queues and those with excess baggage too, and I think that BA needs to have boarding run by those on this thread - and we could actually see if it all worked better!

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Mar 24, 2024, 8:14 am

#817

orbitmic

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Join Date: Jun 2008

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Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc

Posts: 30,640

Quote:

Originally Posted by avm2806

Sounds like 3 errors out of 4, which is strange to the extent that noone else, so far, seems to have reported any such "bank error in your favour" on the Group 0 issue. Can I double check that on none of those occasions you were travelling with any GGL or Premier companion as this would explain the group 0. To reiterate, for Group 0 purposes, your class of travel is wholly irrelevant, whether your ticket is paid or redemption is wholly irrelevant, and any non-BA status is wholly irrelevant.

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Mar 24, 2024, 8:50 am

#818

dbthebolt

Join Date: Sep 2014

Location: UK

Programs: BA GGLfL, Virgin Gold

Posts: 123

I flew on the BA176 from JFK to LHR on Wednesday. Group 0 & 1 were called together. Scrum Down.
LHR to ZRH on Saturday: Group 0 called way ahead of Group 1.
ZRH to LHR today; Group 0 & 1 called together.
not exactly systematic.

Mar 24, 2024, 9:22 am

#819

firstlight

Join Date: Jul 2013

Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond *, IHG, Couples Romance Rewards

Posts: 2,372

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Doctor

No I get that but they know it exists and they know it is coming in. Someone asks politely a day or so in advance so all you do by saying no is annoy them....... And they know that this will have annoyed them.

FD.

No I wasn't annoyed as a CW pax and neither seemingly was the other GGL (who was in F anyway), that would definitely have tipped us into DYKWIA territory! The poor gate agent was having enough problems with the assistance passengers (who became surprisingly spry on the inclined jetway to the upper deck) and their extended families, and the parents with surprisingly mature looking 'under 5s' also seeking to pre-board.

The salient point (and why I posted it) was the fact there had been a staff training video for gate agents so implementation from Tuesday onwards should be interesting.

Mar 24, 2024, 9:24 am

#820

TabTraveller

Join Date: Mar 2014

Location: London, UK

Programs: BAEC

Posts: 2,344

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstlight

The salient point (and why I posted it) was the fact there had been a staff training video for gate agents so implementation from Tuesday onwards should be interesting.

Would love to see if it says something along the lines of “our policy is to board strictly by group numbers but use your own discretion as to how many group numbers you choose to lump together. And it is up to you whether you choose to count up or down that list. Be creative!”

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Mar 24, 2024, 9:28 am

#821

c1223

Join Date: Sep 2012

Location: Nottingham

Programs: BA GGL

Posts: 1,375

I think this has been mentioned before but I imagine the calling of multiple group numbers probably has something to do with BA trying to improve their ontime realibility.

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Mar 24, 2024, 7:42 pm

#822

womble88

Join Date: Jan 2015

Location: London

Programs: BA GGL, Gold for life

Posts: 127

So I lost GGL status at end February (tier point end 8 Jan), semi retirement, but have group 0 on my last 4 boarding passes. I am gold for life however. This a glitch or a perk for gold for life? Am not complaining!

Mar 25, 2024, 3:05 am

#823

ThatT1Feeling

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN

Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold

Posts: 5,956

That would be nice if true for GfLs..

But even as a GGL I have only had Group 0 on my GVA sectors - it does seem like some bedding in is still in order 😁

Very much looking forward to my flight tomorrow ex LHR to see what happens