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Old Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm
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Hi fellow FTers!
I'm working on updated for the new roll out of Comfort + (C+)
Thanks!
rwoman

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On March 1, 2015, DL rebranded Economy Comfort as "Comfort+."
Delta - Comfort+
dl.com: LINK
Comfort+ FAQ - LINK
Offering:
  • C+ is a complimentary upgrade (space available) for DM and PM after booking. GM can access for free at T-72 and FO at T-24. (There is no longer a discount for GM/FO.)
  • Sky Priority boarding
  • Extra legroom and, on international a/c, extra recline
  • Free wine, spirits and regional craft beers, plus premium snacks
  • Complimentary premium entertainment from Delta Studio™ (No longer relevant as of July 1st; Entertainment now complimentary in Y)
  • On JFK-LAX/SFO flights, a Luvo® sandwich wrap and frozen Greek yogurt bar, pillow, blanket, and sleep kit are included

A few general notes regarding DL C+:
  1. On international a/c, the bulkhead seats often have a significant amount leg room (other than the 764).
  2. The bulkhead and exit row seats are often narrower as the tray table and/or IFE unit are in the arm rests. The arm rests do not move which, coupled with a smaller seat, can be uncomfortable for larger pax.
  3. The first row of regular economy seating after EC IS NOT recommended. The last row of EC has the EC recline and members have reported that there's no extra space between this row and the first row of regular Y.
  4. Selecting C+ Seats - You cannot select or purchase C+ seats until after booking is completed on revenue or award tickets. The UG has to clear as well.
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Internationally Configured Aircraft
Per DL, International/transoceanic C+ offers 35" pitch and 6" recline. (LINK)

747-400 / 744 / 74S:
  • dl.com seat map: 747-400
    Rows 22-26 - 42 total C+ seats.
  • Legroom:
    Row 22 ABC/HJK and 24 DEFG are the bulkhead seats. 22C/H are noted as having unlimited legroom and some have noted that people can congregate due to the proximity of the lavatories, which are located directly in front of the first row of C+ on the 744. 22ABC have recently received poor reviews because of the lav and galley - people tend to congregate in this area and it can become stinky. Comments on 22K indicate that pax can access the aisle without disturbing other passengers. Also, the lavatory near 22HJK is blocked for BusinessElite pax, so there tends to be fewer disturbances and become less smelly over the course of a long flight. Also, seats 22B and 22J can be used for bassinets.
    Some might prefer the legroom of row 35/51 on the 744 with less recline and tray in armrest.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    EC Bulkheads on the 74S
    Economy Comfort on 747-400
    The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
    tentseller's review of the 744 - LINK
    Comments on seat power on the 74S - LINK

777-200LR / 777-200ER / 772
  • dl.com seat maps: 777-200LR / 777-200ER
    Rows 31-34; 36 C+ seats
    NOTE: As DL reduced the number of Business Elite seats on the 777s, rows 29-32 are now the C+ seats.
    The C+/Economy seats on a/c has winged headrests.
  • Legroom:
    Row 29/31 seats are the bulkhead seats and have plenty of leg room. Rows 30-32/32-34 are standard C+ seats with USB and plug power. Row 44 (exit row) has excellent legroom, but no power outlets. The window seat sin this row are narrower because the tray table is in the armrest does not move up. The recline is standard recline.
    IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Recent comments on row 31 and row 29 (Bulkhead C+ seats): Delta 777 Bulkhead Seat
    chimphappyhour's feedback on a 777 flight LAX-SYD-LAX in EC - LINK.
    Thoughts on Row 31 - LINK
    modhop's video of the 777 - LINK
    My thoughts on row 35, the first row of Y after EC - LINK
    My pictures of row 31 - LINK
    777-200LR Economy Comfort & exit row questions

A330-300 / A333:
A330-200 / A332:
767-400 / 764 / 76D:
  • dl.com seat map: LINK
    C+ is rows 15-18
  • Legroom:
    On the 764, the bulkhead seats (row 15) have less leg room than the 763's; there's probably about 2' or so between the edge of the seat and the wall. The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests and the tray table/IFE monitor are in the arm rests. In my experience, I felt like the A332/333 and 763's had better recline in EC than the 764.
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat.
    Note: The overhead bins above 16 CDE have emergency equipment in them and cannot be used for stowage of luggage.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    Discussion on 17E vs. 18F: LINK
    mgoflyer's negative thoughts on 15G - LINK
    tentseller's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    NecessaryIndulgence's thoughts on row 15 - LINK
    My pictures of Row 15: 15E: LINK; Space between Row 15 and the bulkhead - LINK
    My pictures comparing Row 15, "regular" EC, and normal Y seats - LINK
    My pictures of 18F with 17F fully reclined - LINK
    The London FAQ also includes many comments on the 764 - FAQ: Flying to London on DL

767-300ER - 76Z (v1 and v2) / 76L (previously seen as 76W) / 76T
  • dl.com: 76Z v1; 76Z v2; 76L; 76T
    • 76Z v1 - Rows 13-15 AB CDE FG and 16-17 AB FG
    • 76Z v2 - Rows 12-16
    • 76L - Rows 16-21
    • 76T - Rows 17-21
  • IFE:
    These a/c are equipped with IFE at each seat. There is also USB power and standard plugs.
  • Legroom:
    The bulkhead seats do not have moveable arm rests. On 763's with row 20 and 21 as EC seats, note these are both exit rows and seats recline in both rows.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of seats 13 FG on the 76Z v1 - LINK
    gooslee's comments on the 76L - LINK
    CarmenOM's comments on the 76L - LINK
    Y29M's comments on the 763 row 17 (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's thoughts on the modified 76 (76T) - LINK
    53flyer's comments on the modified763 row 17 and the impact on legroom (76T) - LINK
    rwoman's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    garyfam's comments on the exit rows (76L and 76T) - LINK
    Seat 1A's photos of 17E (EC Bulkhead - 76T) and row 22CDE (regular Y bulkhead) (76L / 76T) - LINK
    CosmoHuman's comments on the outside first row (12AB and 12FG) on the 76Z v2 LINK
    TrojanTraveler's comments on the protruding exit doors on 12A and 12G on 76Z v2 LINK
    RaflW's comments on 16AB and other nearby seats with pics for the 76Z v2 LINK

757-200 (Delta One Equipped) - 75S:
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Domestic Configured Aircraft
Per DL, domestic Comfort + offers a minimum 34" pitch and normal recline. (LINK)

767-300 / 76P / 76Q
  • dl.com: 767-300 (76Q/P)
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • Legroom: Row 10 has a hard bulkhead in front of it, but the legroom is still decent. This row has an immoveable armrest and the tray table is in the armrest as well.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    gooselee's comments on row 10 - LINK

757-300 / 753:
757-200 / 757 / 75D(H)/ 75X:
Domestic 757's are referenced below. Discussion on the non-PTV 752's - LINK.
737-900ER / 739
  • dl.com: 737-900ER / 739
    C+ is rows 10-13 ABC and 11-13 DEF.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs and power.
  • Legroom:
    The general feedback is 10C and 11D may be the best seats. Overall feedback is not great.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    twnwz's experience on the 739: LINK
    Best seat on 737-900ER?

737-800 / 738 / 73H:
  • 737-800 / 738:
    • dl.com:
    • 737-800 / 738
      C+ is rows 10-15
    • IFE:
      This a/c has overhead video.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Posts:
      T.J. Bender's negative feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      cardood's thoughts on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
      CBear's comments on using a rear facing car seat - LINK
      lhitchner's feedback on the 737 Row 10 - LINK
  • 737-800 / 73H:
    • dl.com: 737-800 - 73H
      C+ is rows 10-12.
    • IFE:
      This a/c has PTVs.
    • Legroom:
      Row 10 has standard bulkhead legroom for an economy bulkhead, making it challenging to get out from the window seat.
    • Related Threads and Comments:
      None

737-700 / 73W:
  • dl.com: 737-700 / 73W
    C+ is rows 10-12.
  • IFE:
    This a/c has PTVs.
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has good legroom. It is directly behind the F cabin and there is no fixed bulkhead, allowing pax in row 10 to store items underneath row 3.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    rwoman's pics of the 73W Row 10 - LINK

MD-88 / M88:
  • dl.com: MD-88 / M88
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    Row 10 has very good legroom.
  • Related Threads and Posts:
    javabytes' post on row 11 - LINK
    Bicostal's feedback on row 10 - LINK
    rwoman's pics of row 10 - LINK

MD-90 / M90
717:
A321-200:
  • dl.com: A321
    C+ is rows 10-14
  • IFE:
    PTVs and Delta Studio via wifi
  • Legroom:
    RaflW's post on the 321 C+ cabin
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A320-200 / 32R:
  • dl.com: A320/32R
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments

A320-200/32K
  • dl.com: A320 / 32K
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related threads and posts:
    None

A319-100/319
  • dl.com: A319 / 319
    C+ is rows 4-6
  • IFE:
    None
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    akonrandi's comments on A319/A320 seats - LINK.

A319-100/31J
  • dl.com: A319 / 31J
    C+ is rows 10-12
  • IFE:
    This a/c is equipped with AVOD
  • Legroom:
    No additional comments
  • Related Threads and posts:
    None

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Flying to Hawaii in C+:
- From DL's C+ page: 3-4" (7-10 cm) extra legroom/ Up to 50% more recline on select routes (JFK to/from SFO or LAX, and ATL/MSP/or JFK to/from HNL).

Related threads and posts:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...767-300er.html

C+ and Priority Boarding/Baggage Allowance:
Passengers in C+ get Sky Priority boarding unless their elite status provides a higher boarding zonemu access. There is no additional baggage allowance unless elite status or fare class provide it.

Related threads and posts:
jamersteroh's comments on zone 1: LINK
jamersteroh's comments on baggage: LINK

Status Changes:
There have been a couple of questions regarding C+ when a member's status drops down after January 31. Typically, seats will hold unless there is an equipment change. If there's a change, the passenger(s) will most likely be seated in regular economy. There are reports of some success contacting @delta to get reseated in C+.

Related threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-ec-seats.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...op-silver.html

Threads/posts that may be useful for non-C+ information:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-aircraft.html
Delta Preferred seating: LINK

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KLM - Economy Comfort

klm.com: LINK
Related FT Threads:
KLM New no Economy Comfort on DL-coded before check-in
DL.com won't let me select seats on KLM flight
KLM Seating, Including Economy Comfort
Delta.com Says KLM Economy Comfort is Free for Delta PMs, But it's Not True
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
I'm on the 76W. The following window seats (my preference) are available: 20/21A and 18/19/20/21G. I understand 21 may be preferable to 19 and 20 for recline purposes. But do any of them stand out as preferable? Any with an obstructed window? If I'm 5"7, medium build, any noticeable difference in legroom between 21 versus 18 and on the flip side, is 21 narrower by any appreciable margin?
Keep in mind that row 20 and 21 are where the lavatories are. They are in the center of the cabin, and the lav doors open toward each other/the small aisle between them (look at the seat map). Row 21 especially is going to be more in-line with the aisle between the lav (you could turn your head and look across to the other side of the plane and also look into the lavs when open), row 20 should be somewhat aligned, but if you turned your head, you'd be looking at the outer wall of the lav.

I've been in 18G before, it's an okay C+ seat (standard C+ legroom), plus you get the window for leaning against to sleep. I assume row 17 isn't available? If you're like me and don't mind the slight restriction of the collapsible tray tables.

DL.com used to indicate seats with limited recline, but I don't see the asterisks anymore. FWIW, seatguru says Row 20 has limited recline, but it doesn't say the same thing about row 19.

There is also the ongoing debate as to whether the exit row seats really are colder/less comfortable seats/made of cement/etc, so you can take that with a grain of salt.
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 3:19 pm
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I presume the 76W is now the 76L? Anyone know why the change and why my reservation shows it as 76W but DL.com's aircraft only lists the 76L?

Originally Posted by brocklee9000
Keep in mind that row 20 and 21 are where the lavatories are. They are in the center of the cabin, and the lav doors open toward each other/the small aisle between them (look at the seat map). Row 21 especially is going to be more in-line with the aisle between the lav (you could turn your head and look across to the other side of the plane and also look into the lavs when open), row 20 should be somewhat aligned, but if you turned your head, you'd be looking at the outer wall of the lav.
I'm of the rare breed that don't mind the bathroom being nearby. It helps to be able to see if there's a line, and the sound rarely bothers me, and I have (thankfully) never smelled the bathroom before.

Does row 21 have a window?

Row 20 is limited recline from what I can tell

I've been in 18G before, it's an okay C+ seat (standard C+ legroom), plus you get the window for leaning against to sleep. I assume row 17 isn't available? If you're like me and don't mind the slight restriction of the collapsible tray tables.
17 has the tables/screens come out of the side? I presume 20/21 are the same? Regardless, the only seat available in 17 is 17F

DL.com used to indicate seats with limited recline, but I don't see the asterisks anymore. FWIW, seatguru says Row 20 has limited recline, but it doesn't say the same thing about row 19.
Interestingly, the seat map on DL.com doesn't have the asterisks but the seat map through my reservation does have them. Rows 19 and 20 have the asterisks (which makes sense)

There is also the ongoing debate as to whether the exit row seats really are colder/less comfortable seats/made of cement/etc, so you can take that with a grain of salt.
Colder I don't mind, though harder would be annoying. Definitely something to think about. Thanks!
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
Does row 21 have a window?
Yes

Originally Posted by joshwex90
Row 20 is limited recline from what I can tell.
Compared to other rows, yes.

Originally Posted by joshwex90
17 has the tables/screens come out of the side? I presume 20/21 are the same? Regardless, the only seat available in 17 is 17F
No; the screens are on the bulkhead.
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by rwoman
Originally Posted by joshwex90
Does row 21 have a window?
Yes
Is it aligned properly and a normal window (versus the small "door window")? And can I rest on it, or is it really a door that juts and can't comfortably be leaned on?

No; the screens are on the bulkhead.
Does it impact viewing or not really?
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
Is it aligned properly and a normal window (versus the small "door window")? And can I rest on it, or is it really a door that juts and can't comfortably be leaned on?

Does it impact viewing or not really?
The exits should by your standard overwing exit, along with the funky small-ish armrest thing seen on many of DL's aircraft.

As for the screen, I'm trying to figure out how much of an impact it would have. For the sake of viewing, not so much. It appears to be the newer AVOD like on the 739s (the kind that you can't tilt when someone reclines). Seatguru appears to have some very good angles of the C+ cabin, but some of the pictures make me wonder...17AB FG are supposed to have very good legroom, as can be seen in pictures like this, which is what I'm accustomed to. Assuming it's that far away (like with the old 76U and 76G configs of old), it might actually require you to get up and manipulate the AVOD, unless controls are provided at your seat. However, other pictures like this and like this make me wonder. The two that make it look like very cramped legroom seem uncharacteristic of what should be at 17G. The exact same picture with the red shoes is submitted to seat guru by the same user several months later, so take that picture with a grain of salt (one photo is captions 17G and says they were cramped at 5'10", the twin photo simply says it was SEA-HND). The other one seems to show the old AVOD, not the new (whereas the first picture showing lots of legroom looks like the new AVOD; note the large white box shrouding it, like this
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 5:54 pm
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Originally Posted by sethb
Delta took C+ away from you so they refunded only after you made a stink about it. They would have been perfectly happy flying you in C- and keeping the money you paid for C+.
No, I wasn't in C+, only my wife. Once they changed planes, it was a different layout and that seat (my seat) didn't exist and they moved me several rows back into economy. My wife was still in C+. So they refunded my wife's C+ seat
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Old Jun 26, 2015, 3:50 pm
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Question Delta 757-200 (75H)
I haven't seen any talk of Delta's 757-200 (75H). It's here:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...7-200-75h.html

I'm taking a flight back from Hawaii later this year on one and was wondering if anyone knew anything about 16 D,E,F. It's economy comfort, but it's in front of a bathroom, so I'm not sure if it has full or limited recline.

There's a total of six people, so rows 15 and 16 just seemed like a good spot for us all to grab and sit together.

Thanks much.
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Old Jun 28, 2015, 1:03 pm
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Will they serve booze in C+ on a 6:50AM flight? Will I get nasty looks if I order two in two hours?

Thanks in advance. I'm a little guy and don't care for the premium IFE so almost the entire value proposition of C+ for me is drinks.
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Old Jun 28, 2015, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by drew870mitchell
Will they serve booze in C+ on a 6:50AM flight? Will I get nasty looks if I order two in two hours?

Thanks in advance. I'm a little guy and don't care for the premium IFE so almost the entire value proposition of C+ for me is drinks.
Unless the plane is miscatered they will serve it. You might get a look or two but who cares? It's your life and if you're thirsty then drink on!
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Old Jun 28, 2015, 7:10 pm
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How is it with power outlets on the A330-300? I am considering to upgrade to economy comfort to increase my chance of getting one. Currently I am in 15A, and 11A in economy comfort is available.
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Old Jun 28, 2015, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by FlightCancelled
How is it with power outlets on the A330-300? I am considering to upgrade to economy comfort to increase my chance of getting one. Currently I am in 15A, and 11A in economy comfort is available.
FWIW, rows 10-19 should have in seat power on the 333.
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Old Jun 29, 2015, 6:18 pm
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Anyone have any thoughts above and beyond seatguru on A330-300 Comfort Plus recently? Currently in 11A and B for ATL-FCO. Thanks kindly in advance!
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Old Jun 29, 2015, 9:40 pm
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I will be flying MSP-CPH in C+ in July. Here are my two options:

MSP-JFK-CPH with the TATL leg in a refurbished 757-200 with a seat in the left hand bulkhead emergency exit seat (19A) with lots of leg room although with the emergency slide. Those slides don't usually bother me.

MSP-AMS-CPH with the TATL leg in an A330-300. Aisle C+ seats are available but not bulkhead seats.

I really like bulkhead seats but don't like having to transit through JFK, especially since I would leave from Terminal 2. What is the international 757 like?

I'd welcome advice and opinions.
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Old Jun 30, 2015, 8:50 pm
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Has anyone flown this aircraft (767-300 76Z) to comment on this weird phenomenon?
I'm 6'4 and want the legroom in the bulkhead, but it's not showing at EC, only preferred.

Seatguru shows as EC. PM Delta Agent told me the delta site is correct, and disregard seatguru. Not sure why there's a block of Preferred seats surrounded by EC. That's just weird.

Anyone have any experience? Is there limited recline? Less amenities? What gives?

Here's some links for reference.
What I see: http://i.imgur.com/C3Eb42d.jpg
Seatguru: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Del...67-300ER_C.php
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Old Jul 1, 2015, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by kayo_michael
Has anyone flown this aircraft (767-300 76Z) to comment on this weird phenomenon?
I'm 6'4 and want the legroom in the bulkhead, but it's not showing at EC, only preferred.

Seatguru shows as EC. PM Delta Agent told me the delta site is correct, and disregard seatguru. Not sure why there's a block of Preferred seats surrounded by EC. That's just weird.

Anyone have any experience? Is there limited recline? Less amenities? What gives?

Here's some links for reference.
What I see: http://i.imgur.com/C3Eb42d.jpg
Seatguru: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Del...67-300ER_C.php
Yes, it's C+. Some of these seats periodically show as preferred (vice C+) seats.
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