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Old Sep 10, 2015, 9:45 am
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Programs in Which Points/Miles Never Expire

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  • Best Western (for members of the North American club, which includes members who reside in North/Central/South America, Asia, and South Africa)

Expiring Points/Miles & How to Reset the Clock

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Format is Airline (airline IATA code) program name: duration (methods to reset expiration)
"Hard expiry" means expiration clock cannot be reset through normal earning/redemption.
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15 Jan 2018. VX ffp absorbed by AS following takeover
10 Feb 2018 Added VS link. AB closed
23 Feb 2018 Added EgyptAir
18 Mar 2018 renamed / relinked Club Carlson to Radisson Rewards
19 Mar 2018 Added IB thread
27 Apr 2018 Added new Avianca policy thread
16 May 2018 Added EK reinstate link
14 Aug 2018 Added Hyatt link
23 Aug 2018 AC to buy back Aeroplan ffp
18 Nov 2018 Added AC link
11 Dec 2018 EK Plat no expiry
20 Apr 2019 Starwood taken over. Jetairways stopped flying
15 May 2019 Added CA, AY, RJ, SK
03 Nov 2019 Added Radisson link
16 Nov 2019 Added Intermiles Program (former JetPrivilege) link
16 Nov 2019 Updated Eithad
23 Nov 2019 Added Shangri-La Golden Circle to hotels, moved Southwest to non-expiring
10 Dec 2019 Cathay Pacific Asia Miles. Hard expiry to 18 months if no activity
10 Dec 2019 In hotels, noted that La Quinta is now just part of Wyndham Rewards (not a separate program any more)
11 Jan 2020 In hotels, updated Hilton for 15 months (previously 12 months) + updated Accor to new ALL program with new 365 days (old program has 1 year)
26 Jan 2020 Fixing [s t r i k e ] to [ s ] issue caused by 20 Jan 2020 software downgrade to formatting
01 Jul 2020 EY platinum status miles do not expire
21 Jul 2020 AC Expiry due to non activity was 12 months. Now 18 months
12 Aug 2020 Added AF/KLM link
26 Sep 2020 Added VS points now do not expire
26 Sep 2020 Updated LATAM to point out horrible change to hard expiration (at least for USA and European based members)
04 Oct 2020 Formatting improvements
31 Oct 2020 Updated link to QF T&Cs
28 Nov 2020 Added link for BA
09 Feb 2021 Added link for CX
18 Apr 2021 Added that HA miles no longer expire
07 Aug 2021 Updated link to AC T&C
21 Dec 2021 QR from hard expiry to 36 months if no activity. ITA Airways added
5 May 2022 Hilton clock expanded to 24 mos.
27 Apr 2024 AA expanded expiration from 18 to 24 months apparently back on 1 Mar 2022
23 May 2024 Added China Eastern, updated the link for Air China/ Malaysia Airlines
15 Jun 2024 Added that Marriott points don't currently expire for Lifetime Elite Membership Accounts
7 Jul 2024 Moved Alaska Airlines to the Never Expire section
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Old Aug 17, 2018 | 8:22 pm
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I just updated the wiki (for Flying Blue) as best I could figure out, after learning that Flying Blue has changed their expiration from 20 months to 24 months (2 years), and has added a couple more reset possibilities (current elite status that's high enough, not just lifetime status as before, and some -- but not sure which -- co-branded credit cards).

And that's it for things which reset all miles expiration, but just to make it complicated they added some things that reset the expiration of some miles but not others:

https://www.flyingblue.us/en/faq/cat...ll-about-miles (expand "How long are my miles valid?"):
All your Miles are valid for life as long as you take an eligible flight on Air France, KLM, Joon, HOP!, Aircalin, Kenya Airways, TAROM or other SkyTeam partners at least once every 2 years, or if you're an Elite or Elite Plus member, or if you make a purchase with an eligible co-branded credit card at least once every 2 years. These "Overall extending activities" extend the validity of all Miles 2 years from the date of the activity.

You can also extend the validity of Miles earned with all other partners (airline partners not mentioned above, car rental partners, hotel partners, and experience partners) for 2 years by earning Miles with any of these other partners. These "Partial extending activities" with other partners will extend the validity of Miles earned with any of these other partners by 2 years from the date of the activity. Please note, "Partial extending activities" do not extend the validity of Miles earned from "Overall extending activities".

It's not clear to me, for example, which of the these two categories (if either) miles transferred from a credit card points program fall into.
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 7:54 pm
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I'm new here so not sure how exactly it works, but I didn't find Finnair here, which should belong to the ones that don't expire!
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by TanyaHelenaP
I'm new here so not sure how exactly it works, but I didn't find Finnair here, which should belong to the ones that don't expire!
Nope.

From https://www.finnair.com/nl/gb/finnai...air-plus/rules
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Points are valid for 18 months from the latest point activity date (earning or using points). Each activity will pass on the validity date for all the award points for 18 months. Unused award points will expire and get cancelled automatically if there is no point activity within an 18-month period. The expiration date can be found on the members Finnair Plus account on the Internet. Finnair is not obliged to remind members of points due to expire separately. Transferring points between accounts does not affect point expiry date.
No expiry if an eligible activity in 18 months is common to many ffp's
They will expire if you do not have activity

I will add to the wiki when I have a better internet connection
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 7:45 pm
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I have updated in the Wiki here for Amtrak - from 3 years to 2 years. Per its updated T&C as of April 3, 2019, under "D. Point Expiration":

Subject to these Program Terms and Conditions, points earned under the Program will not expire as long as the Program continues and the Members Program account is active. Active means that the Member earns and/or redeems Program points using his or her Membership Number within a 24-month period.


https://www.amtrak.com/guestrewards/terms

The linked FT thread in the wiki had already been updated in its own wiki.
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 8:18 am
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Given the news at Doctor of Credit, which I also posted in the linked Etihad forum expiry thread, I updated the Wiki to show that Etihad has just changed from hard to soft expiration.
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
Given the news at Doctor of Credit, which I also posted in the linked Etihad forum expiry thread, I updated the Wiki to show that Etihad has just changed from hard to soft expiration.
EY forum thread here from a few days ago:-- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etih...-nov-19-a.html
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 12:08 am
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Anybody care to add Shangri-La Golden Circle? I'm not allowed to edit the Wiki.

Shangri-La Golden Circle: End of the calendar year the points were earned plus 2 years hard expiry (item D. i. 8. in T&C).
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 9:27 am
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Anybody care to add Shangri-La Golden Circle? I'm not allowed to edit the Wiki.

Shangri-La Golden Circle: End of the calendar year the points were earned plus 2 years hard expiry (item D. i. 8. in T&C).
Thanks. I just added it.

I also noticed Southwest had not yet been moved to non-expiring, so I did so.
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 10:34 pm
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Cathay Pacific Asia Miles change for the better
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...18-months.html
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 11:49 am
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Changes the wiki to update two hotel programs: Hilton just changed from 12 to 15 months, and Accor has changed to a new program ALL with new T&C link and new 365 days (but still requires an eligible stay to reset).
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 6:05 am
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VS Flying Club Changes
Virgin Atlantic points (new name) will have no expiration effective 2020/09/24.
Detailed info in FAQ format at this link.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 12:09 pm
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Updated to show that Hawaiian (HA) miles no longer expire.
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Old May 5, 2022 | 10:18 am
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I believe Hilton changed to 24 months on January 1st. Following is from their page. I am trying to check all mine now and this forum is helpful.

Members who do not have eligible activity as defined in a. - d. below in any 24 consecutive month period may be removed from the Program and are subject to forfeiture of all accumulated Points. At the discretion of Hilton Honors, such Members may be permitted to remain in the Program and removed after five years of inactivity. To keep accumulated Hilton Honors Points, the Member must take one of the following actions within a 24 consecutive month period: (a) stay at a hotel within the Hilton Portfolio pursuant to the terms herein; (b) earn Hilton Honors Points through any third party source of Hilton Honors Point accumulation, including a Hilton co-branded credit card, pursuant to its terms; (c) purchase Hilton Honors Points; or, (d) donate Points through The Hilton Honors Giving Back Program.
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Old Mar 22, 2024 | 11:22 pm
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I wonder if Korean Air Skypass miles do expire or not? If not then they should be added into the Don't expire category still have my 18k miles from December 2006-January 2007 JFK-ICN-MNL roundtrip all on Korean Air
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Originally Posted by allianceflyer9506
I wonder if Korean Air Skypass miles do expire or not? If not then they should be added into the Don't expire category still have my 18k miles from December 2006-January 2007 JFK-ICN-MNL roundtrip all on Korean Air
https://www.koreanair.com/total-sear...iration%20date
SKYPASS miles are valid for 10 years.
- Miles are valid until December 31 of the 10th year following their accrual (based on KST).
- Flight miles and partner miles are valid for 10 years from the date of flight and the date of credit respectively.
- Miles earned on/before June 30, 2008 do not expire and are valid for the lifetime of the members.
- The mileage with the shortest remaining validity period is redeemed first. Lifetime mileage with no validity period is used after all mileage with a validity period has been used.
- Miles that are not used before the expiration date will not be carried over.
- Miles for purchasing award tickets or various items should be deducted before the expiration date (regardless of boarding date and use date).
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