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Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire

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Programs in Which Points/Miles Never Expire

Airlines
  • Delta (DL) Skymiles: link (click SkyMiles Rules & Conditions, then Account Deletion & Mileage Expiration)
  • JetBlue (B6) Trueblue
  • Ukrainian International Airlines (PS) Panorama Club

Hotels
  • Best Western (for members of the North American club, which includes members who reside in North/Central/South America, Asia, and South Africa)


Expiring Points/Miles & How to Reset the Clock

Airlines
Format is Airline (airline IATA code) program name: duration (methods to reset expiration)
"Hard expiry" means expiration clock cannot be reset through normal earning/redemption.
Hotels
Miscellaneous
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Old Dec 16, 15, 3:43 pm
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IHG - eReward transfer counts?

Are you guys sure eReward transfer counts as eligible activity?

I gather earning from the dining program would count, so if eReward transfer is considered partner earning than it should count too. But the T&Cs of the program is as clear as mud.

I also want to add that Marriott program apparently does NOT count redemption that has not been consumed yet (unlike SPG which now counts any point movement IIRC not just stay and dine at the SPG property as clarified by the Lurker). Between 11/10 and 12/06/15 I made 4 reward night bookings at Protea in South Africa for a trip in Sept 2016. My Marriott account still has the last activity in July 2015 - the last post of credit card earning, instead of the latest redemption.

Finally, it seems IB only disqualify transfer among Avios programs being non-eligible but transfer from AMEX Membership Reward and from eReward have reported by some blogs as eligible but I cannot verify this.
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Old Dec 17, 15, 3:59 pm
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Added Asiana Club. Similar rules to Korean Air.

The status used is membership status at 'date of boarding/accumulation'.
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Old Jan 11, 16, 10:17 am
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-AR (Aerolineas Argentinas) 3 years (resettable by paid AR flight or by redeeming flight with miles, but not by any other activity)
-CM (Copa Airlines) 2 Years (any activity)

Feel free to add these to the wiki, since I'm still unable to do that. Thanks!
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Old Jan 13, 16, 7:40 pm
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Choice Hotels seems to be changing from a "hard" expiration policy to a "soft" expiration policy of 18 months. The news is still a bit murky, but here's the thread in the Choice Hotels forum discussing the change:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/choic...on-policy.html
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Old Jan 25, 16, 1:50 pm
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Added Brussels (SN). Same program as Lufthansa.
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Old Feb 15, 16, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Alitam View Post
-AR (Aerolineas Argentinas) 3 years (resettable by paid AR flight or by redeeming flight with miles, but not by any other activity)
-CM (Copa Airlines) 2 Years (any activity)

Feel free to add these to the wiki, since I'm still unable to do that. Thanks!
Done, and thanks for the info!!
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Old May 4, 16, 4:17 am
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for the more adventurous flyer I added Ukrainian International airlines (flyuia.com) to "no expiry" section
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Old Jun 14, 16, 11:50 pm
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Someone add Air Berlin 2.5 years please
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Old Jun 14, 16, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by elkue View Post
Someone add Air Berlin 2.5 years please
Do you have a link to the AB Topbonus web site where this is?
I have tried to find before.
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Old Jun 17, 16, 3:14 pm
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Added JL Mileage bank. 36 months.
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Old Jul 24, 16, 10:35 am
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I've just realized that I don't think Accor is up there. Does anyone know what their expiration is?
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Old Jul 25, 16, 5:15 am
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Originally Posted by DrRodneyMcKay View Post
I've just realized that I don't think Accor is up there. Does anyone know what their expiration is?
well spotted.

updated accordingly
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Old Jul 25, 16, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by tangey View Post
well spotted.

updated accordingly
Thank you! And oh dear, I had better use those points soon...
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Old Jul 26, 16, 2:11 pm
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Someone put Philllipine (PR) Mabuhay Miles into the Non-Expiring section, but then explained that it requires activity to avoid expiration, so that's not Non-Expiring. I thus moved it to the Airlines section.

Non-Expiring means never expires, even without activity.
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Old Aug 16, 16, 10:41 am
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Can someone clarify the Lufthansa expiration? Does the regular monthly charges of a new Barclay LH card keep older miles (received from previous LH card) alive? Or are those on the 3 year hard death no matter what?
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