Flying Blue Expiration Policy

Reply

Old Mar 10, 19, 7:31 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 20
Flying Blue Expiration Policy

So I have an upcoming booking WAW-IAH that I used 53k FlyingBlue points for. The reservation was made August 19, 2018. If I cancel the reservation today (March 10, 2019) and pay to have the miles deposited back into my account, when will the miles expire? (1 year from today's date?) ... also, to keep the 53k points active, can I just fly a Delta domestic flight within the US and have it credited to my FlyingBlue account to keep the points from expiring and last forever?
TexasMatthew is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 10, 19, 8:50 am
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Accor 25+ Badge 2019 FlyerTalk Awards
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, UA Mileage plus, Le Club Accorhotels platinum
Posts: 12,791
The question is when was your last qualifying miles earning activity on your account. Miles are valid for 2 years and this validity period is reset every time you earn new miles (from flying or eligible credit card use like the AF FB Amex in FR and NL). If you had no earning activity since you earned the miles you used to pay your ticket and if those miles were earned 2 years ago or more, they will not be recredited to your account as they will be considered expired.

For your 2nd question, I am not sure and so I would prefer that other experts on this forum give you their opinion.

Last edited by Goldorak; Mar 16, 19 at 7:18 am
Goldorak is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 10, 19, 9:37 am
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 20
Miles were transferred from Citi ThankYou on the day of the ticket purchase.
TexasMatthew is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 15, 19, 8:09 pm
  #4  
2019 FlyerTalk Awards
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Scotland & PHX
Posts: 474
A delta domestic flight credited to FB will do the trick.
Norri is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 16, 19, 5:45 am
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 15,781
I must say that the new expiry policy that distinguishes between miles acquired from flying and other miles makes things rather complicated. My partner's last EQM/XP-earning flight was in Spring 17. Miles should therefore normally expire in Spring 19. He has, however, earned FB miles through car hire in Autumn 18. His online account gives the expiry date of his miles as two years from the car hire transaction (i.e. Autumn 20) rather than 2 years from the last EQM/XP-earning activity.
If he were to rely on what his account says, he would be OK not flying until 2020. I have a strong suspicion, however, that, if he does that, he will lose all of his miles except from the handful of miles earned through car hire.

I tried to go and double-check what the FB TandCs say but I am afraid that they are even more ambiguous, confusing and erroneous.
They define to "overall extending activity" and "partial extending activity" but the concept of "partial extending activity" is not used at all in the rest of the T&Cs, making it an empty concept.
The TandCs state that the validity of all miles will be extended for 2 years after the last "overall extending activity", defined as an XP-earning activity or "any other Earn Activity designated as an Overall Extending Activity in the Flying Blue Communication" (and they give Transavia flights and FB credit card payments as examples of the latter)..
They do not however state which activities and for how long are subject to "partial extending activity" other than stating that only miles earned after the last overall extending activity can be partially extended.

I think I understand what they intend to do and why with "partially extending activity" but the TandCs do not reflect that. This is just one big confusing mess.
NickB is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 16, 19, 5:59 am
  #6  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: London, UK and Southern France
Posts: 15,781
Originally Posted by TexasMatthew View Post
... also, to keep the 53k points active, can I just fly a Delta domestic flight within the US and have it credited to my FlyingBlue account to keep the points from expiring and last forever?
As Goldorak says, re-depositing the miles will not extend their original life span.
If the miles were transferred from Citi (and assuming you had to XP-earning flights since then), they will be valid for two years from the date of transfer. So, if you did the transfer in March 18, they will be valid until March 20 and, therefore, if you take a DL (or other XP-earning) flight before then, their validity will be extended for 2 years from the date of the flight.

What I am unclear about, and others might wish to clarify, is the following scenario:
1) I book a reward flight using miles that were going to expire. Let us say, for the sake of argument, the miles are due to expire in April 2019 and, during March 2019, I book a reward flight for January 2020.
2) I then take an XP-earning flight after the original expiry date of the miles but before the date of the reward flight (let us say: July 2019).
3) I then cancel the reward flight (say, in August 2019).

In that situation, do the miles re-credit to the account or do they get wiped out immediately on redeposit? In other words, does the XP-earning flight after the original deadline for use of the miles prolong the life of the miles that were on life-support through their use for a reward flight or not?
NickB is offline  
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread