MSPeconomist

Maybe when spring finally comes, someone will decide that it's no longer appropriate/patriotic to set the AC temp to frigid. Let's roast that virus to nice and extremely well done so that it's totally dead.

nk15

So, we have 36 total cases from the DP cruise ship, which means in addition to the 14 knowingly transported on the evacuation flight, there are 22 new infections. The question is, did those 22 get infected on the evacuation flight, because the state department overruled the CDC regarding evacuating the 14 infected ones?

STS-134

If that's what it's going to take to change things and actually have a government that's prepared next time, so be it.

nk15

In theory, if everyone around the world could shelter in place and turn the AC off for 2-3 weeks we could probably eradicate it. But that's not realistic.

notquiteaff

This article talks about limited responsibility and power of the CDC vs the thousands of state and county health departments.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...l-mess/606595/

Is any of the funding going to the local level?

Also makes me think about the concern voiced earlier about the EU structure... seems not all that different here.

It would be interesting and useful to know, but I would be surprised if we ever find out.

dumping waste water and generating fresh water through desalination, I think. They still have nearly a thousand people aboard (crew).

nk15

Interesting article indeed. You would hope that he CDC would be given more authority, what is the point of a federal government if they can't take charge in a pandemic situation. Assuming of course that they can be trusted to be honest and respected scientists in charge of policy and decisions, as opposed to political appointees or have other conflicts of interest...

But if it comes down to the state and county level, it may vary a lot, and hopefully you live in a good state....

wco81

Meanwhile a Chinese firm announced its copied remdesivir and can manufacture it.

Also a Chinese Academy of Sciences Wuhan Institute of virology applied for a patent on using remdesivir to treat Covid-19.

Of course Gilead claims all patents around the drug though supposedly the CEO said they wouldn’t get into a patent dispute.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma-...ew-coronavirus

Gilead stock closed up 3.1% but was up as much as 6%. But a BofA analyst said remdesivir wouldn’t materially benefit the company’s finances other than perhaps a one-time $2.5 billion revenue bump, noting that the drug isn’t approved for any use as of now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-drug-testing

IMOA

I suspect it will be next to impossible to figure out however Australia, Israel and the UK all got passengers who tested negative in Japan and Positive once evacuated so statistically you'd expect that the US should also get some. Personally I'd say the measures that were put in place to keep those passengers quarantined on the plane were a lot better than the measures put in place to keep the passengers quarantined on the boat so my guess would by by far the majority, and likely all, the passengers who subsequently tested positive got it before and not from the 14.

notquiteaff

Do we know what the cause for those changes in test results could be? A significant number of false negatives in Japanese tests? Infection not yet progressed enough to detect it when first tested? And what conclusions should we thus draw from this for other “tested negative” results? It doesn’t really seem to mean much if someone tests negative. (or positive... in Malaysia?)

IMOA

My assumption is that they were only recently infected and the ‘test’ didn’t show positive until the person had it for a few days (or whatever period). But that’s kinda reading between lines and making assumptions so some big grains of salt there.

bocastephen

I’m not so sure I trust what “real scientists” are doing right now since almost everyday there is something new and unforeseen about this virus. I certainly don’t trust a single word that comes out of the WHO.

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has now split out the Diamond Princess from Japan (maybe by request from Japan?) and lists it now as its own "country":






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PanAmWT

No supplies in our local stores. I went to Amazon yesterday and all Amazon Prime eligible are out of stock. They do take pre-orders for future supplies

Many small third party sellers have them on stock. 3M 8200s are around $3.50 including shipping. 3M 8511s vary between $5.50 and $12.00. Both have valves. I chose to avoid new sellers so paid between $7 and $8 each in two separate 10-piece orders of 8511, the most comfortable type, advertised for 30% better breathing than 8200s..

There were three sellers of 10 per box package Sunday, asking for around $30 per each box + $70-80 shipping. All were out of stock Monday morning

Other brands vary from $2 (no valve) to $12.

FDA approval are for medical facilities and NIOSH approval are for industry. Best to have both but this is not necessary, Watch for fake claim of FDA approval implying anti-virus, which does not exist. Also FDA-approval does not require N-95, so be careful to make sure you are getting the N-95. Some reviews complain about possible fake open box products.

After reading a UA medical doctor's interview and several sources trying to establish aerosol transmission, it seems that N95 may be valuable in crowded trains and airplanes on ground before takeoff and after landing, but not needed in flight or in airport terminals.

TPJ

They do.

GDS availability:

- tomorrow - almost full (5 seats in PY and 3 seats in coach still available for sale), I guess everyone leaves Korea:

- from the day after tomorrow - fairly open (at least in coach)