Coronavirus + NH
Jan 25, 2020, 1:35 pm
#2
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NH posted waivers for Wuhan on their website.
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
Jan 25, 2020, 5:03 pm
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Apart from Wuhan, which is not operating at the moment, reroute, rebooking, and cancellation is handled according to ticket fare rules. Of YMMV if you call them, but until they announce more waivers, I would not expect anything else.
Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 am
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Tokyo has been great this weekend with fewer Chinese tourists. Less people is always good. Department stores were finally manageable again without pushing and overly loud conversations.
Clearly fewer pax coming over. I was supposed to head to PVG this week but cancelled it. Not out of fear of infection, but that the Japanese government would require NH to cancel all flights or would deny entry like the US is now doing in an unprecedented move. Further I’m going back to the US in two weeks so that would no longer be possible if I had a couple days in China.
Wonder when the Japanese government will implement what Australia and the US and others have done with the travel bans. Wonder if NH would keep flying if only Japanese citizens were allowed into the country from ex China flights.
All of this reminds me of an NH flight I took into PVG years ago during SARS, and the hazmat suited staff came into the plane on the tarmac and scanned everyone’s forehead before the plane could reach the gate to deplane. And that was on a flight INTO China at the time.
Update: Just heard on the local news that NH is cancelling most (?) China flights due to the planes being mostly empty. Wonder to what extent that is true.
Clearly fewer pax coming over. I was supposed to head to PVG this week but cancelled it. Not out of fear of infection, but that the Japanese government would require NH to cancel all flights or would deny entry like the US is now doing in an unprecedented move. Further I’m going back to the US in two weeks so that would no longer be possible if I had a couple days in China.
Wonder when the Japanese government will implement what Australia and the US and others have done with the travel bans. Wonder if NH would keep flying if only Japanese citizens were allowed into the country from ex China flights.
All of this reminds me of an NH flight I took into PVG years ago during SARS, and the hazmat suited staff came into the plane on the tarmac and scanned everyone’s forehead before the plane could reach the gate to deplane. And that was on a flight INTO China at the time.
Update: Just heard on the local news that NH is cancelling most (?) China flights due to the planes being mostly empty. Wonder to what extent that is true.
Last edited by ainternational; Feb 1, 2020 at 5:48 am
Feb 1, 2020, 3:00 pm
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Tokyo has been great this weekend with fewer Chinese tourists. Less people is always good. Department stores were finally manageable again without pushing and overly loud conversations.
Clearly fewer pax coming over. I was supposed to head to PVG this week but cancelled it. Not out of fear of infection, but that the Japanese government would require NH to cancel all flights or would deny entry like the US is now doing in an unprecedented move. Further I’m going back to the US in two weeks so that would no longer be possible if I had a couple days in China.
Wonder when the Japanese government will implement what Australia and the US and others have done with the travel bans. Wonder if NH would keep flying if only Japanese citizens were allowed into the country from ex China flights.
All of this reminds me of an NH flight I took into PVG years ago during SARS, and the hazmat suited staff came into the plane on the tarmac and scanned everyone’s forehead before the plane could reach the gate to deplane. And that was on a flight INTO China at the time.
Update: Just heard on the local news that NH is cancelling most (?) China flights due to the planes being mostly empty. Wonder to what extent that is true.
Clearly fewer pax coming over. I was supposed to head to PVG this week but cancelled it. Not out of fear of infection, but that the Japanese government would require NH to cancel all flights or would deny entry like the US is now doing in an unprecedented move. Further I’m going back to the US in two weeks so that would no longer be possible if I had a couple days in China.
Wonder when the Japanese government will implement what Australia and the US and others have done with the travel bans. Wonder if NH would keep flying if only Japanese citizens were allowed into the country from ex China flights.
All of this reminds me of an NH flight I took into PVG years ago during SARS, and the hazmat suited staff came into the plane on the tarmac and scanned everyone’s forehead before the plane could reach the gate to deplane. And that was on a flight INTO China at the time.
Update: Just heard on the local news that NH is cancelling most (?) China flights due to the planes being mostly empty. Wonder to what extent that is true.
Feb 3, 2020, 1:48 pm
#8
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This page has been updated:
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
However, under bullet point 3, it's unclear what ANA means:
Does this mean that the deadline to **request** a change is April 30, 2020? Or, does this mean that the **new departure date** must be before May 1, 2020? If the latter case is correct, then what if the epidemic is still there as of April 2020?
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
However, under bullet point 3, it's unclear what ANA means:
"3. Change of boarding date (Special Handling)
Change of boarding date is allowed "once" within April 20. 2020 with an applicable ticket."Does this mean that the deadline to **request** a change is April 30, 2020? Or, does this mean that the **new departure date** must be before May 1, 2020? If the latter case is correct, then what if the epidemic is still there as of April 2020?
Feb 3, 2020, 3:24 pm
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This page has been updated:
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
However, under bullet point 3, it's unclear what ANA means:
Does this mean that the deadline to **request** a change is April 30, 2020? Or, does this mean that the **new departure date** must be before May 1, 2020? If the latter case is correct, then what if the epidemic is still there as of April 2020?
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
However, under bullet point 3, it's unclear what ANA means:
"3. Change of boarding date (Special Handling)
Change of boarding date is allowed "once" within April 20. 2020 with an applicable ticket."Does this mean that the deadline to **request** a change is April 30, 2020? Or, does this mean that the **new departure date** must be before May 1, 2020? If the latter case is correct, then what if the epidemic is still there as of April 2020?
対象航空券をお持ちのお客様は、2020年4月20日までの期間内で「1回のみ」搭乗日の変更 が可能です
I'd say that passengers with eligible tickets are allowed to make one date change, during the period until April 20th
Feb 4, 2020, 11:05 am
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So, in other words, the travel departure date can be BEYOND April 30, 2020, correct?
Feb 4, 2020, 2:28 pm
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I have the same question. Surprisingly hard to get an answer. I called ANA's customer service line a few days ago and they wouldn't give me a definitive answer. But it sounded like they wanted the new departure date to be in the near future.
Feb 4, 2020, 3:01 pm
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Feb 4, 2020, 4:46 pm
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I called NH. After a long hold, the agent told me that the new departure date has to be before Apr 20. (I am guessing that NH wants to reserve enough seats for the Olympics.)
I then asked what if the coronavirus is still a pandemic in Apr 2020? Then, she just said that they cannot predict the future.
I believe that this agent is not very knowledgeable anyway, because she wasn't sure if HKG was part of fee waiver destinations. So, I guess we have to call multiple agents and triangulate their answers.
Thanks everybody.
I then asked what if the coronavirus is still a pandemic in Apr 2020? Then, she just said that they cannot predict the future.
I believe that this agent is not very knowledgeable anyway, because she wasn't sure if HKG was part of fee waiver destinations. So, I guess we have to call multiple agents and triangulate their answers.
Thanks everybody.
Last edited by Barkinpark; Feb 4, 2020 at 4:48 pm Reason: INcluded comment on the Olympics.
Feb 4, 2020, 6:18 pm
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I called NH. After a long hold, the agent told me that the new departure date has to be before Apr 20. (I am guessing that NH wants to reserve enough seats for the Olympics.)
I then asked what if the coronavirus is still a pandemic in Apr 2020? Then, she just said that they cannot predict the future.
I believe that this agent is not very knowledgeable anyway, because she wasn't sure if HKG was part of fee waiver destinations. So, I guess we have to call multiple agents and triangulate their answers.
Thanks everybody.
I then asked what if the coronavirus is still a pandemic in Apr 2020? Then, she just said that they cannot predict the future.
I believe that this agent is not very knowledgeable anyway, because she wasn't sure if HKG was part of fee waiver destinations. So, I guess we have to call multiple agents and triangulate their answers.
Thanks everybody.
Hong Kong and Macau is included. It is in the note under eligible tickets
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/topics/notice200123/
Feb 5, 2020, 7:46 am
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I'm a bit annoyed they only allow changes through April, especially given that I already have the same flights booked in April.