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Mar 7, 2020 | 1:35 am
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trueblu any thoughts?
Mar 7, 2020 | 1:56 am
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This is an irresponsible use of statistics. Europe is a large area with many separate areas where transmission is separately ongoing. Cherry-picking the number of cases in one continent and then looking at the growth rate of that separately from anywhere else is meaningless. To put it another way, lumping Italy and Lithuania together makes as much sense as lumping Italy and Brazil together.
Mar 7, 2020 | 6:38 am
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Re: Antimicrobials
Way up-thread, there's was a post by trueblu:
Handsoap these days (after ban of triclosan for "domestic" use) would likely have n-Alkyl dimethylbenzyl ammonium chloride (also called Benzalkonium Chloride) as its active ingredient.
This is also used in Disinfectant Spray -for instance- which oftentimes has n-Alkyl dimethylbenzyl ammonium chloride and/or n-Alkyl dimethyl ethylbenzyl ammonium chloride in concentrations of around 0.1%, and 30% to 50 % Ethanol.
The EPA has released an 'approved' list of products in the fight against COVID-19 (link is directly to the PDF) called:
EPA’s Registered Antimicrobial Products for Use Against Novel Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, the Cause of COVID-19
Way up-thread, there's was a post by trueblu:
I'm using regular soap (and hand sanitzer outdoors)...viruses not being bacteria, I'm not sure the active agents (not sure what it is these days, it used to be triclosan, now banned) will have any additional benefit. Hospital-grade chlorhexidine would be 'better' at killing stuff, but it's murder on your skin integrity: I never use moisturizer except when I'm on the wards...
Handsoap these days (after ban of triclosan for "domestic" use) would likely have n-Alkyl dimethylbenzyl ammonium chloride (also called Benzalkonium Chloride) as its active ingredient.
This is also used in Disinfectant Spray -for instance- which oftentimes has n-Alkyl dimethylbenzyl ammonium chloride and/or n-Alkyl dimethyl ethylbenzyl ammonium chloride in concentrations of around 0.1%, and 30% to 50 % Ethanol.
The EPA has released an 'approved' list of products in the fight against COVID-19 (link is directly to the PDF) called:
EPA’s Registered Antimicrobial Products for Use Against Novel Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, the Cause of COVID-19
Mar 7, 2020 | 8:29 am
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Iran and Italy are adding several hundred/about a thousand cases per day...
Last edited by nk15; Mar 7, 2020 at 8:55 am
Mar 7, 2020 | 8:58 am
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Mar 7, 2020 | 9:25 am
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Singapore in particular makes evident how accurate their counts are through the transparent reports, where you can generally see clear links between cases, where each case leads to aggressive contact tracing, and where most discovered growth comes from such methodical follow-up and not random people showing up at hospitals.
I have first hand experience of being one of contact tracing case in Singapore.
I was called by MoH telling me that I was in the same clinic where a person later diagnosed with COVID19 visited earlier. Once he was diagnosed I was called the next day. Then, every day for next 14 days I got a call checking my health and self-assessment. I was not asked to self-isolate and was told that I am free to leave and come back to Singapore. The importance was to have my phone on all the time so I can answer their calls. If I missed call, I was getting SMS 'MoH is trying to reach you. Please call back at this number'.
Considering that contact tracing identified about 9000 local residents, chances be one of them is 1:500 for the total population.
Mar 7, 2020 | 10:03 am
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In Vitro Bactericidal and Virucidal Efficacy of Povidone-Iodine Gargle/Mouthwash Against Respiratory and Oral Tract Pathogens
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5986684/
Mar 7, 2020 | 10:19 am
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New York State just announced a that they are doing a lot of testing and the number of cases increased about 50% since yesterday. That’s about what was to be expected. And it’s bad.
The governor of NY is going after the CDC for slowing down the state response including testing. He said CDC is a “bottleneck”. Really going after them in fact. Current problem is that CDC won’t allow automated testing and there is a lot of capability for automated testing they can’t take advantage of.
They’re also stopping all outside visitors at senior centers and extended care facilities around a cluster of cases in Westchester County.
The governor of NY is going after the CDC for slowing down the state response including testing. He said CDC is a “bottleneck”. Really going after them in fact. Current problem is that CDC won’t allow automated testing and there is a lot of capability for automated testing they can’t take advantage of.
They’re also stopping all outside visitors at senior centers and extended care facilities around a cluster of cases in Westchester County.
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Mar 7, 2020 | 10:45 am
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Something I've been noticing in the relatively large numbers of recovered in both Iran and Italy per the Worldometers numbers, particularly compared to South Korea but also other countries. Either they're further into outbreak or assessing recovered differently (clinical vs laboratory?) is what it looks like to me. Any insight?
According to Worldometer (12:45 PM EST, 3/7/20), in South Korea the ratio between recovered and deaths is 118/48 = 2.46 whereas in Italy the ratio is 589/233 = 2.53. The difference is not significant.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Mar 7, 2020 | 10:56 am
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The Daily Mail is reporting that the Xinjia Hotel in Quanzhou city, being used as a quarantine facility, has collapsed:
Daily Mail - Rescuers race to save 30 people still trapped in collapsed five-star hotel in China being used to quarantine coronavirus victims (Updated: 12:11 EST, 7 March 2020)
Daily Mail - Rescuers race to save 30 people still trapped in collapsed five-star hotel in China being used to quarantine coronavirus victims (Updated: 12:11 EST, 7 March 2020)
Mar 7, 2020 | 10:57 am
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Something I've been noticing in the relatively large numbers of recovered in both Iran and Italy per the Worldometers numbers, particularly compared to South Korea but also other countries. Either they're further into outbreak or assessing recovered differently (clinical vs laboratory?) is what it looks like to me. Any insight?
The facts do not agree with your assertion.
According to Worldometer (12:45 PM EST, 3/7/20), in South Korea the ratio between recovered and deaths is 118/48 = 2.46 whereas in Italy the ratio is 589/233 = 2.53. The difference is not significant.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
According to Worldometer (12:45 PM EST, 3/7/20), in South Korea the ratio between recovered and deaths is 118/48 = 2.46 whereas in Italy the ratio is 589/233 = 2.53. The difference is not significant.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Last edited by Kiwi Flyer; Mar 7, 2020 at 11:50 am Reason: fix maths
Mar 7, 2020 | 11:52 am
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The facts do not agree with your assertion.
According to Worldometer (12:45 PM EST, 3/7/20), in South Korea the ratio between recovered and deaths is 118/48 = 2.46 whereas in Italy the ratio is 589/233 = 2.53. The difference is not significant.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
According to Worldometer (12:45 PM EST, 3/7/20), in South Korea the ratio between recovered and deaths is 118/48 = 2.46 whereas in Italy the ratio is 589/233 = 2.53. The difference is not significant.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Mar 7, 2020 | 1:23 pm
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A couple days old:
https://khn.org/news/fact-check-vice...virus-testing/
Mar 7, 2020 | 1:34 pm
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And, the first case in Hawaii is a GP passenger who returned home:
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...sh-green-says/
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...sh-green-says/
Mar 7, 2020 | 1:40 pm
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