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Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:19 pm
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This thread is to discuss the historically annual premium class fare sales that occur for travel (mostly TATL) during the US Thanksgiving holiday period.

FAQ

Q: When is Thanksgiving? What travel dates are covered in the Thanksgiving Day sales?
A: Thanksgiving in the United States is observed on the 4th Thursday of November.

The week of Thanksgiving and the weekend after are considered to be the busiest period for US domestic air travel due to large numbers of people traveling to spend the holiday with loved ones. As a result business travel demand, especially for international business travel, is unusually weak. This drop in demand is believed to be the origin for the Thanksgiving holiday international business class fares.

Typically these fares are offered for travel outbound from the US in the period from the Sunday before to the day after Thanksgiving. Return travel is usually valid for the day after Thanksgiving to the following Wednesday.

Q: When do the Thanksgiving fare sales start?
A: Sometime in the summer with an average start date of Aug 4.
The first reports, by year, posted on the message boards of Thanksgiving holiday sales are as follows:

2015: Jul 25**
2014: Aug 9
2013: Jun 18
2012: Jul 11
2011: Aug 8
2010: Aug 18
2009: Aug 11
2008: Jul 2
2007: Sep 22

**In 2015, on Sep 30 OW initiated a very brief 2nd round of discounted fares. It only lasted about 18 hours.

Q: How good are the Thanksgiving sales? What are some typical prices?
A: Many times the Thanksgiving airfare deals are the lowest TATL premium class fares offered the entire calendar year.

The lowest prices reported to the board each year are as follows:

Note: All prices from here on out are all-in round-trip/return prices in J unless otherwise noted.
2015: $1608 NYC-LIS on OW
2014: $1625 JFK-MAD on a combination of US/AY. Sample dates: 11/27-12/02
2013: $1400~ NYC-LHR/DUB/MAN on UA/DL/AF/KL
2012: $854 EWR-DUB on US
2011: $1380 NYC-DUB on *A
2010: $1272 EWR-LHR on CO
2009: $1309 EWR-OSL on CO
2008: $1560 PIT-FRA on AA
2007: $1100~ EWR-ZRH on UA


Some other notable deals reported:

2015
$1795 NYC-LIS on ST

2014
$1700 JFK-ARN on AY
$1800 JFK-BCN/MAD on ST/OW
$1940 MIA-MAD/MAD-JFK on OW/*A
$1950 MCI-MAD/BCN on OW
$2050 EWR-OSL/ARN on *A
$2000-$2100 BOS-MAD/ARN
$2074-$2120 MIA-MAD/BCN on ST/OW/*A
$2088 BOS-MAD
$2100 NYC-OSL on ST
$2157 DFW-MAD on OW
$2800 LAX/SFO-MAD/BCN

2013
$1417 JFK-LHR/DUB-JFK on ST
$1444 PHL-FRA/MUC on US
$1448 JFK-LHR/LIS-JFK on ST
$1486 EWR-BRU on *A (+9W)
$1500 JFK-LHR on VS
$1514 JFK-LHR/BCN-JFK on ST
$1519 JFK-LHR/MAD-JFK on ST
$1537 JFK-LHR/BSL-JFK on ST
$1539 JFK-LHR/GVA-JFK on ST
$1544 JFK-LHR/BRU-JFK on ST
$1563 JFK-LHR/DUB-BOS (booked Oct 30)
$1600+ NYC-FRA/MUC/VIE/GVA on *A
$1612 JFK-LON (booked Sep 19)
$1613 NYC-LHR on *A
$1629 JFK-BCN
$1673 EWR-AMS (booked Jun 30)
$1753 LGA-AMS on *A
$1900 RSW-LIS/CPH/LHR/OSL on *A
$1965 JFK-CDG on ST
$1986 BOS-VIE on *A (booked Sep 15)
$2025 IAH-LHR on OW/ST/*A
$2050 NYC-IST
$2115 JFK-MLA on *A?
$2120 AGS-LHR/AMS-SFO on ST
$2200-$2300 LAX/SFO/SEA-???
$2237 IAD-FCO on *A
$2344 MIA-LED on ST
$2400~ DEN-TXL on *A
$2464~ SFO-LHR
$2500-2600 LAS-LHR/CDG
$2566 SAN-AMS on ST
$2605 LAX-CDG on ST
$3000~ ORD-LHR on *A in F
$3663 SFO-LHR in F
$3666 SFO-LHR on UA in F

2012
$1050 BOS-DUB on *A
$1085 LGA-MAD on *A
$1250 JFK-LHR on VS
$1270 ORD-DUB on *A
$1659 JFK-BRU on *A/ST
$1696 AGS-LHR/AMS-JFK on *A/ST
$1754 BOS-LHR on ST/VS
$1936 LAX/SFO(?)-MAD
$1960 RDU-FCO on ST
$1977 RST-LHR on ST
$2000- AGS/BHM/CAE/CHA/GSP/SAV-LHR on ST
$2000+ LAX/SFO(?)-FCO/CDG/ATH
$2100~ MSY-OSL on ST
$2300~ SFO-LHR/FRA on *A
$2427 CMH-LHR on OW in F
$2540 JFK-IST on ST
$2571 ATL-LHR on ST
$2662 BOS-IST on ST? (booked Jul 31)
$3600 LAX-LHR on *A in F

2011
$1400 JFK-LHR/BRU/CDG on ST
$1414 JFK-BRU on OW
$1475 EWR-LHR on *A
$1491 JFK-BCN on OW
$1500- NYC-BRU/CDG/LIS/MAD/FRA/DUB/AMS/VIE/MAN/OSL/SNN/GVA/CPH/MUC on *A
$1650 EWR-FCO on *A
$1668 IAD-CDG on *A
$1700 IAH-DUB on *A
$1717 DCA-MAD on OW
$1860 CMH-MAD on *A
$1900 WAS-LHR on UA
$1907 BNA-BCN on ST
$2035 FNT-FCO on ST
$2033 BNA-FCO on ST
$2258 LAX/SAN-BRU on ST
$2285~ DEN/LAX/SFO-LHR on *A
$2297 SFO-MUC on OW
$2400 JFK-MUC on *A in F
$2916 WAS-LHR on *A in F
$3640 SFO-LHR on *A in F
$3740~ SFO-FRA/MUC on *A in F
$4000~ LAX-LHR on *A in F
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Nov 23, 2014, 10:02 am
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 12:45 pm
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In the case of UA, it seems like they curtailed the schedule this Thanksgiving week even more than last year, which might have led to less attractive offers.

Typically there would be acceptable bookings in coach, offering premium cabins void of business travelers at special fares. But, with coach loads very light they obviously decided just to take flights completely off the schedule.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Typically there would be acceptable bookings in coach, offering premium cabins void of business travelers at special fares. But, with coach loads very light they obviously decided just to take flights completely off the schedule.
Why are loads much lighter this year than previous years? Is it due to the festering EU crisis?
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertH
Looks like Delta is releasing some $3000 fares in business class at Thanksgiving and Christmas. But, I only see these from west coast cities to Europe AND the PACIFIC. $3000 round trip in Z from SEA, LAX, SFO, SLC to places like Seoul, Beijing and Shanghai are not bad I THINK.

Available on delta.com - just do an advanced search for business class seats and use the flexible dates feature. I think the first travel date outbound is Nov 23.
Looks to be gone. Checked out of LAX/SFO/SEA to SIN and nothing sub $4700
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Lee1226
Looks to be gone. Checked out of LAX/SFO/SEA to SIN and nothing sub $4700
That post is from October 23. Of course it's gone. It's the week before Thanksgiving. Premium fares -- any fares posted on here, really -- tend to last 1-2 days max.
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Old Nov 23, 2014, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by steveholt
That post is from October 23. Of course it's gone. It's the week before Thanksgiving. Premium fares -- any fares posted on here, really -- tend to last 1-2 days max.
That's normally true for the more general premium fare sales, but the holiday fares generally are around a lot longer. The Thanksgiving fares posted this year were generally for a 60-day advance purchase and most survived through the end of the sale period. Most of those then were refiled for a 28-day advance purchase, with some surviving that deadline and being refiled again for 14-day AP. Some may have even survived that deadline.

But it is pretty late now, though the deals that FTstudent posted a couple of days ago NYC>OSL/HEL/ARN/CPH does have some availability left with departures later this week, i.e. Thurs, Fri.
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by Lee1226
Looks to be gone. Checked out of LAX/SFO/SEA to SIN and nothing sub $4700
Yup, I think the fare is gone. But, as I recall SIN was never part of the deal anyway.
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 6:57 am
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As Thanksgiving approaches, the domestic connecting flight segments become very full and very expensive. For last minute deals, look for TATL or TPAC nonstops.

In this way, once you get past TSA security at your originating airport, the holiday crowds won't bother you much. However, watch out for full airport parking if you plan to drive to the airport.
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Old Nov 24, 2014, 11:02 pm
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Hate this thread

OP I hate a thread like this and to me defeats the whole purpose of the premium fare deals thread.

I dont want to read a whole thread like this for ANY holiday to hunt and peck to find premium fare deals. EACH unique deal should be its own thread so its immediately viewable as a separate post - NOT buried here.
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Old Nov 25, 2014, 6:30 am
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

JHIN,
This thread was started before the Premium Deals Forum was even set up. It was a discussion about WHEN fares were announced in years past. Good premium flights deals should still be posted in the forum.
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Old Nov 25, 2014, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
Why are loads much lighter this year than previous years? Is it due to the festering EU crisis?
Either lower demand from EU fliers, or

- less attractive coach pricing vs. competition or in the market overall

- more aggressive routing of traffic to remaining flights
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
It's cold in Copenhagen and Oslo.
Haha. Compared to Tampa? Without a doubt. Compared to Minneapolis, it looks likes Copenhagen will be a veritable heat wave at 40 degrees F.

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Old Nov 26, 2014, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Either lower demand from EU fliers, or

- less attractive coach pricing vs. competition or in the market overall

- more aggressive routing of traffic to remaining flights
BOS-ZRH is maybe 1/3 full tonight ... what they get when they keep prices up this year. Hopefully a lesson for 2016
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Cool Maybe?

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BOS-ZRH is maybe 1/3 full tonight ... what they get when they keep prices up this year. Hopefully a lesson for 2016
Black Friday surprise sales?
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 3:45 am
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On Thanksgiving evening, MSP-CDG was also about a third full with revenue passengers in BE and maybe half full in coach. Even after all the nonrevs got on, there was still one open seat in BE.

MSP was really empty with only a SEA and one more AMS flight leaving. Apparently the LHR nonstop was cancelled, as was one AMS flight.
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