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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:19 pm
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This thread is to discuss the historically annual premium class fare sales that occur for travel (mostly TATL) during the US Thanksgiving holiday period.

FAQ

Q: When is Thanksgiving? What travel dates are covered in the Thanksgiving Day sales?
A: Thanksgiving in the United States is observed on the 4th Thursday of November.

The week of Thanksgiving and the weekend after are considered to be the busiest period for US domestic air travel due to large numbers of people traveling to spend the holiday with loved ones. As a result business travel demand, especially for international business travel, is unusually weak. This drop in demand is believed to be the origin for the Thanksgiving holiday international business class fares.

Typically these fares are offered for travel outbound from the US in the period from the Sunday before to the day after Thanksgiving. Return travel is usually valid for the day after Thanksgiving to the following Wednesday.

Q: When do the Thanksgiving fare sales start?
A: Sometime in the summer with an average start date of Aug 4.
The first reports, by year, posted on the message boards of Thanksgiving holiday sales are as follows:

2015: Jul 25**
2014: Aug 9
2013: Jun 18
2012: Jul 11
2011: Aug 8
2010: Aug 18
2009: Aug 11
2008: Jul 2
2007: Sep 22

**In 2015, on Sep 30 OW initiated a very brief 2nd round of discounted fares. It only lasted about 18 hours.

Q: How good are the Thanksgiving sales? What are some typical prices?
A: Many times the Thanksgiving airfare deals are the lowest TATL premium class fares offered the entire calendar year.

The lowest prices reported to the board each year are as follows:

Note: All prices from here on out are all-in round-trip/return prices in J unless otherwise noted.
2015: $1608 NYC-LIS on OW
2014: $1625 JFK-MAD on a combination of US/AY. Sample dates: 11/27-12/02
2013: $1400~ NYC-LHR/DUB/MAN on UA/DL/AF/KL
2012: $854 EWR-DUB on US
2011: $1380 NYC-DUB on *A
2010: $1272 EWR-LHR on CO
2009: $1309 EWR-OSL on CO
2008: $1560 PIT-FRA on AA
2007: $1100~ EWR-ZRH on UA


Some other notable deals reported:

2015
$1795 NYC-LIS on ST

2014
$1700 JFK-ARN on AY
$1800 JFK-BCN/MAD on ST/OW
$1940 MIA-MAD/MAD-JFK on OW/*A
$1950 MCI-MAD/BCN on OW
$2050 EWR-OSL/ARN on *A
$2000-$2100 BOS-MAD/ARN
$2074-$2120 MIA-MAD/BCN on ST/OW/*A
$2088 BOS-MAD
$2100 NYC-OSL on ST
$2157 DFW-MAD on OW
$2800 LAX/SFO-MAD/BCN

2013
$1417 JFK-LHR/DUB-JFK on ST
$1444 PHL-FRA/MUC on US
$1448 JFK-LHR/LIS-JFK on ST
$1486 EWR-BRU on *A (+9W)
$1500 JFK-LHR on VS
$1514 JFK-LHR/BCN-JFK on ST
$1519 JFK-LHR/MAD-JFK on ST
$1537 JFK-LHR/BSL-JFK on ST
$1539 JFK-LHR/GVA-JFK on ST
$1544 JFK-LHR/BRU-JFK on ST
$1563 JFK-LHR/DUB-BOS (booked Oct 30)
$1600+ NYC-FRA/MUC/VIE/GVA on *A
$1612 JFK-LON (booked Sep 19)
$1613 NYC-LHR on *A
$1629 JFK-BCN
$1673 EWR-AMS (booked Jun 30)
$1753 LGA-AMS on *A
$1900 RSW-LIS/CPH/LHR/OSL on *A
$1965 JFK-CDG on ST
$1986 BOS-VIE on *A (booked Sep 15)
$2025 IAH-LHR on OW/ST/*A
$2050 NYC-IST
$2115 JFK-MLA on *A?
$2120 AGS-LHR/AMS-SFO on ST
$2200-$2300 LAX/SFO/SEA-???
$2237 IAD-FCO on *A
$2344 MIA-LED on ST
$2400~ DEN-TXL on *A
$2464~ SFO-LHR
$2500-2600 LAS-LHR/CDG
$2566 SAN-AMS on ST
$2605 LAX-CDG on ST
$3000~ ORD-LHR on *A in F
$3663 SFO-LHR in F
$3666 SFO-LHR on UA in F

2012
$1050 BOS-DUB on *A
$1085 LGA-MAD on *A
$1250 JFK-LHR on VS
$1270 ORD-DUB on *A
$1659 JFK-BRU on *A/ST
$1696 AGS-LHR/AMS-JFK on *A/ST
$1754 BOS-LHR on ST/VS
$1936 LAX/SFO(?)-MAD
$1960 RDU-FCO on ST
$1977 RST-LHR on ST
$2000- AGS/BHM/CAE/CHA/GSP/SAV-LHR on ST
$2000+ LAX/SFO(?)-FCO/CDG/ATH
$2100~ MSY-OSL on ST
$2300~ SFO-LHR/FRA on *A
$2427 CMH-LHR on OW in F
$2540 JFK-IST on ST
$2571 ATL-LHR on ST
$2662 BOS-IST on ST? (booked Jul 31)
$3600 LAX-LHR on *A in F

2011
$1400 JFK-LHR/BRU/CDG on ST
$1414 JFK-BRU on OW
$1475 EWR-LHR on *A
$1491 JFK-BCN on OW
$1500- NYC-BRU/CDG/LIS/MAD/FRA/DUB/AMS/VIE/MAN/OSL/SNN/GVA/CPH/MUC on *A
$1650 EWR-FCO on *A
$1668 IAD-CDG on *A
$1700 IAH-DUB on *A
$1717 DCA-MAD on OW
$1860 CMH-MAD on *A
$1900 WAS-LHR on UA
$1907 BNA-BCN on ST
$2035 FNT-FCO on ST
$2033 BNA-FCO on ST
$2258 LAX/SAN-BRU on ST
$2285~ DEN/LAX/SFO-LHR on *A
$2297 SFO-MUC on OW
$2400 JFK-MUC on *A in F
$2916 WAS-LHR on *A in F
$3640 SFO-LHR on *A in F
$3740~ SFO-FRA/MUC on *A in F
$4000~ LAX-LHR on *A in F
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Jun 13, 2014, 10:59 am
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Delta sent out a sale announcement. I was not impressed.

Anyone expecting a bigger drop for Thanksgiving? ( either in Business or coach)
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by OrangeCountyCommuter
Delta sent out a sale announcement. I was not impressed.

Anyone expecting a bigger drop for Thanksgiving? ( either in Business or coach)
That so-called "sale" was nothing I could find ex-LAX. I expect a biz-class sale sometime between August and October for Thanksgiving weekend. That is the pattern. I would expect a rt price of $2400 from the west coast.

There has not be a history of Thanksgiving coach fare sales.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Bowgie
That so-called "sale" was nothing I could find ex-LAX. I expect a biz-class sale sometime between August and October for Thanksgiving weekend. That is the pattern. I would expect a rt price of $2400 from the west coast.

There has not be a history of Thanksgiving coach fare sales.
Thanks. I will keep watching. Coach fares are not outrageous, but I would not mind a Business deal
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usually late July early August. The current 'sales' are not Thanksgiving prices ... they are regular off-season
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I'm considering going to Madrid over Thanksgiving. Anyone been there during that time?
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Originally Posted by cfischer
usually late July early August. The current 'sales' are not Thanksgiving prices ... they are regular off-season
They are not regular off season prices, take a look at EF and it shows the ZP63US fare has a very defined travel period around Thanksgiving and Christmas. UA has a similar PQNC3S and PQNC4S fare for those travel periods too so this is supposed to be the sale - however the Thanksgiving levels this year are not the crazy ones we usually see. The Christmas ones appear roughly the same as last year with the exception of a few destinations.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 8:25 pm
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So what? Fares of $2800+ are bad.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 8:25 pm
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Didn't really see good biz fares (in the ~$1500 range) last year until late August, from what I can tell looking back.
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Secondly, any "sale" that is advertised is not a sale.
The good Thanksgiving fares from years past were never advertised. Instead, they were found by FT'ers.
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Old Jun 13, 2014, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler
They are not regular off season prices,
yes they are. x-mas and summer same as Thanksgiving. Regular off-season and yes, I have an EF subscrption.
It is not uncommon to see these early in the game and then my early August prices are coming down to what we consider Thanksgiving fares. It's been like this fare the past several years.
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I've never purchased one, but I recall being temped the past couple years by sub-$2000 DL Z fares as late as Oct/Nov for Thanksgiving travel.
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

It seems Thanksgiving airfare deals are popping up. For example: BOS-JFK-MAD-JFK-BOS, $2088 ai, 11/26-12/1.
Ideally, a good deal in J to Europe would be less than $2K but not sure if that is achievable considering the winter season capacity cuts.
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
It seems Thanksgiving airfare deals are popping up. For example: BOS-JFK-MAD-JFK-BOS, $2088 ai, 11/26-12/1.
Ideally, a good deal in J to Europe would be less than $2K but not sure if that is achievable considering the winter season capacity cuts.
that's a terrible Thxgiving fare. $1500 or nothing. Boo if this is all they will offer this year ... won't be going for $2k that's for sure. Just $500 less than x-mas, they must be joking. My guess is this will be coming down further as planes remain empty.
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Originally Posted by cfischer
that's a terrible Thxgiving fare. $1500 or nothing. Boo if this is all they will offer this year ... won't be going for $2k that's for sure. Just $500 less than x-mas, they must be joking. My guess is this will be coming down further as planes remain empty.
What do you mean "just $500 less than x-mas"?
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