May 21, 2013, 12:18 pm
Last edit by: Sykes
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Oct 29, 2013, 11:44 am
#2041
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I looked into this a bit, while it does allow stopover in each direction, it has a HIP check (for those who don't know, this effectively means you have to stopover in a city with a lower fare than this fare or else you have to pay the fare to the stopover city).
I couldn't find a US city where the HIP requirement wouldn't bump up the fare (cheapest I could find was stopping over in BOS). YMMV
I couldn't find a US city where the HIP requirement wouldn't bump up the fare (cheapest I could find was stopping over in BOS). YMMV
related with the below fare the cheapest I found is ~$2600 return AI from AMS to GIG/GRU
also avail at ~2800-3000 from several places to europe to GIG/GRU/SCL/EZE/MVD
the fare allow 1 stopover in each direction and combinations with AA/LAN/TAM within N.A and S.A so it is a great deal.
also avail at ~2800-3000 from several places to europe to GIG/GRU/SCL/EZE/MVD
the fare allow 1 stopover in each direction and combinations with AA/LAN/TAM within N.A and S.A so it is a great deal.
Oct 29, 2013, 12:48 pm
#2042
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UA: SMF-SJU $957 P fare good routings
Abundant immediate turn availability at this price for Saturday departures/Sunday returns well into 2014, so no days off and "easy" travel by UA standards. Lots of different routing options. IAH EWR double seems to optimize mileage stretching it to 9100 great circle round trip, LAX not bad either.
Works out to about 7.0cpm with EQM bonus.
Thinking about buying one with a 10% off expiring cert...
Sacramento (SMF) to San Juan (SJU) - Sat, May 24
United Airlines, Inc. Sacramento (SMF) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Sat, May 24
United Airlines, Inc. 6510 Dep: 6:40PM Arr: 8:06PM 1h 26m Canadair Reg. Jet Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY SKYWEST DBA UNITED EXPRESS Layover in LAX 2h 19m
United Airlines, Inc. Los Angeles (LAX) to Newark (EWR) - Sat, May 24
United Airlines, Inc. 1165 Dep: 10:25PM Arr: 6:29AM 5h 4m Boeing 737 First (P)
Layover in EWR Sun, May 25 1h 16m
United Airlines, Inc. Newark (EWR) to San Juan (SJU) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1216 Dep: 7:45AM Arr: 11:43AM 3h 58m Boeing 737 Business (P)
San Juan (SJU) to Sacramento (SMF) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. San Juan (SJU) to Newark (EWR) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1216 Dep: 12:38PM Arr: 4:55PM 4h 17m Boeing 737 Business (P)
Layover in EWR 0h 30m
United Airlines, Inc. Newark (EWR) to Houston (IAH) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1712 Dep: 5:25PM Arr: 8:10PM 3h 45m Boeing 757 First (P)
Layover in IAH 0h 50m
United Airlines, Inc. Houston (IAH) to Sacramento (SMF) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1644 Dep: 9:00PM Arr: 10:53PM 3h 53m Boeing 737 First (P)
Works out to about 7.0cpm with EQM bonus.
Thinking about buying one with a 10% off expiring cert...
Sacramento (SMF) to San Juan (SJU) - Sat, May 24
United Airlines, Inc. Sacramento (SMF) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Sat, May 24
United Airlines, Inc. 6510 Dep: 6:40PM Arr: 8:06PM 1h 26m Canadair Reg. Jet Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY SKYWEST DBA UNITED EXPRESS Layover in LAX 2h 19m
United Airlines, Inc. Los Angeles (LAX) to Newark (EWR) - Sat, May 24
United Airlines, Inc. 1165 Dep: 10:25PM Arr: 6:29AM 5h 4m Boeing 737 First (P)
Layover in EWR Sun, May 25 1h 16m
United Airlines, Inc. Newark (EWR) to San Juan (SJU) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1216 Dep: 7:45AM Arr: 11:43AM 3h 58m Boeing 737 Business (P)
San Juan (SJU) to Sacramento (SMF) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. San Juan (SJU) to Newark (EWR) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1216 Dep: 12:38PM Arr: 4:55PM 4h 17m Boeing 737 Business (P)
Layover in EWR 0h 30m
United Airlines, Inc. Newark (EWR) to Houston (IAH) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1712 Dep: 5:25PM Arr: 8:10PM 3h 45m Boeing 757 First (P)
Layover in IAH 0h 50m
United Airlines, Inc. Houston (IAH) to Sacramento (SMF) - Sun, May 25
United Airlines, Inc. 1644 Dep: 9:00PM Arr: 10:53PM 3h 53m Boeing 737 First (P)
Oct 29, 2013, 3:23 pm
#2043
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I looked into this a bit, while it does allow stopover in each direction, it has a HIP check (for those who don't know, this effectively means you have to stopover in a city with a lower fare than this fare or else you have to pay the fare to the stopover city).
I couldn't find a US city where the HIP requirement wouldn't bump up the fare (cheapest I could find was stopping over in BOS). YMMV
I couldn't find a US city where the HIP requirement wouldn't bump up the fare (cheapest I could find was stopping over in BOS). YMMV
also tried all the way to scl, stop there, go to gig via gru. stop, then to ams,
Oct 29, 2013, 4:23 pm
#2044
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Sao Paulo (GRU) to New York (JFK) - Thu, Nov 28
US Airways, Inc. Sao Paulo (GRU) to Charlotte (CLT) - Thu, Nov 28
US Airways, Inc. 803 Dep: 9:00AM Arr: 4:10PM 10h 10m Boeing 767 Business (Z)
Layover in CLT 17h 15m
US Airways, Inc. Charlotte (CLT) to New York (JFK) - Fri, Nov 29
US Airways, Inc. 1830 Dep: 9:25AM Arr: 11:09AM 1h 44m Airbus A320 First (A)
New York (JFK) to Sao Paulo (GRU) - Wed, Dec 4
US Airways, Inc. New York (JFK) to Charlotte (CLT) - Wed, Dec 4
US Airways, Inc. 1899 Dep: 6:15AM Arr: 8:17AM 2h 2m Airbus A321 First (A)
Layover in CLT 8h 48m
US Airways, Inc. Charlotte (CLT) to Sao Paulo (GRU) - Wed, Dec 4
US Airways, Inc. 802 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 5:45AM 9h 40m Boeing 767 Business (Z)
Thu, Dec 5
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,105.40
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,105.40
Oct 29, 2013, 4:26 pm
#2045
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Delhi (DEL) to Johannesburg (JNB) - Wed, Nov 27
Saudi Arabian Airlines Delhi (DEL) to Jeddah (JED) - Wed, Nov 27
Saudi Arabian Airlines 759 Dep: 8:00PM Arr: 11:30PM 6h 0m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Layover in JED 5h 40m
Saudi Arabian Airlines Jeddah (JED) to Johannesburg (JNB) - Thu, Nov 28
Saudi Arabian Airlines 447 Dep: 5:10AM Arr: 11:20AM 7h 10m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Johannesburg (JNB) to Delhi (DEL) - Thu, Dec 5
Saudi Arabian Airlines Johannesburg (JNB) to Jeddah (JED) - Thu, Dec 5
Saudi Arabian Airlines 446 Dep: 1:00PM Arr: 9:00PM 7h 0m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Layover in JED 13h 50m
Saudi Arabian Airlines Jeddah (JED) to Delhi (DEL) - Fri, Dec 6
Saudi Arabian Airlines 758 Dep: 10:50AM Arr: 6:00PM 4h 40m Boeing 777 Business (I)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $674.33
Total cost for 1 passenger $674.33
Oct 29, 2013, 4:35 pm
#2046
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Pretty standard MS fare
MS: ATH-CAI-BKK (return) just under $1,800
Athens (ATH) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair Athens (ATH) to Cairo (CAI) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 748 Dep: 4:00PM Arr: 5:50PM 1h 50m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 6h 5m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 960 Dep: 11:55PM Arr: 1:25PM 8h 30m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Mon, Dec 9
Bangkok (BKK) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair Bangkok (BKK) to Cairo (CAI) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 961 Dep: 12:50AM Arr: 5:50AM 10h 0m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 4h 40m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 747 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 12:30PM 2h 0m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,786.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,786.80
Athens (ATH) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair Athens (ATH) to Cairo (CAI) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 748 Dep: 4:00PM Arr: 5:50PM 1h 50m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 6h 5m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 960 Dep: 11:55PM Arr: 1:25PM 8h 30m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Mon, Dec 9
Bangkok (BKK) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair Bangkok (BKK) to Cairo (CAI) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 961 Dep: 12:50AM Arr: 5:50AM 10h 0m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 4h 40m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 747 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 12:30PM 2h 0m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,786.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,786.80
Oct 30, 2013, 1:07 am
#2047
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CAI-KUL 930 euros with TK. If you can fly cheaply to CAI with miles it seems much better value than MS both in terms of confort and service.
MS: ATH-CAI-BKK (return) just under $1,800
Athens (ATH) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair Athens (ATH) to Cairo (CAI) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 748 Dep: 4:00PM Arr: 5:50PM 1h 50m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 6h 5m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 960 Dep: 11:55PM Arr: 1:25PM 8h 30m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Mon, Dec 9
Bangkok (BKK) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair Bangkok (BKK) to Cairo (CAI) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 961 Dep: 12:50AM Arr: 5:50AM 10h 0m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 4h 40m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 747 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 12:30PM 2h 0m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,786.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,786.80
Athens (ATH) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair Athens (ATH) to Cairo (CAI) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 748 Dep: 4:00PM Arr: 5:50PM 1h 50m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 6h 5m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Bangkok (BKK) - Sun, Dec 8
Egyptair 960 Dep: 11:55PM Arr: 1:25PM 8h 30m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Mon, Dec 9
Bangkok (BKK) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair Bangkok (BKK) to Cairo (CAI) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 961 Dep: 12:50AM Arr: 5:50AM 10h 0m Boeing 777 Business (Z)
Layover in CAI 4h 40m
Egyptair Cairo (CAI) to Athens (ATH) - Tue, Dec 17
Egyptair 747 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 12:30PM 2h 0m Boeing 737 Business (Z)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,786.80
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,786.80
Oct 30, 2013, 7:34 am
#2048
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Just a data point for those looking at QR C fares out of CAI.
I booked one of those and QR cancelled one of the flights on my itin.
No information of any kind from QR, noticed this on my own.
When calling only alternative offered is 2 days later, all the rest is booked according to QR. And they will not endorse you to another airline. Actually the agent almost laughed when I asked to be endorsed, and told me that QR policy do not allow for such things. Welcome to 5* airline, I guess.
So I would advise against booking those fares based on my experience.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante
I booked one of those and QR cancelled one of the flights on my itin.
No information of any kind from QR, noticed this on my own.
When calling only alternative offered is 2 days later, all the rest is booked according to QR. And they will not endorse you to another airline. Actually the agent almost laughed when I asked to be endorsed, and told me that QR policy do not allow for such things. Welcome to 5* airline, I guess.
So I would advise against booking those fares based on my experience.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante
Oct 30, 2013, 7:50 am
#2049
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KL/AF seem to have matched today, while FI comes in around the same price, although I would not rate it a similar product.
Booked this one this morning for November. Good availability in Nov/Dec.
Not amazing, but a good Biz run for Christmas shopping out of Scandinavia with ARN, HEL and CPH a bit higher. Other US hubs including ATL/ORD also lower than normal, with ATL probably giving lower cpm. Some sort of revenge stunt from BA towards DY and their newly announced routes out of Gatwick?
This comes in addition to the already low C fares (sub $2000) out of Oslo to Bangkok.
Interesting thing was that I added a rental car for the duration of my stay and the price actually dropped to $2025 including car, meaning the rental car is basically free. Is that normal for BA? Nice surprise anyway.
KL/AF seem to have matched today, while FI comes in around the same price, although I would not rate it a similar product.
Booked this one this morning for November. Good availability in Nov/Dec.
Not amazing, but a good Biz run for Christmas shopping out of Scandinavia with ARN, HEL and CPH a bit higher. Other US hubs including ATL/ORD also lower than normal, with ATL probably giving lower cpm. Some sort of revenge stunt from BA towards DY and their newly announced routes out of Gatwick?
This comes in addition to the already low C fares (sub $2000) out of Oslo to Bangkok.
Interesting thing was that I added a rental car for the duration of my stay and the price actually dropped to $2025 including car, meaning the rental car is basically free. Is that normal for BA? Nice surprise anyway.
Oct 30, 2013, 1:59 pm
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KLM 65% off business Thanksgiving travel
This seems to be a recurring thing now, business class discounts on Thanksgiving travel to Europe on KLM. Looks quite affordable and out of several gateways.
Oct 30, 2013, 5:59 pm
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This seems to be a recurring thing now, business class discounts on Thanksgiving travel to Europe on KLM. Looks quite affordable and out of several gateways.
A quick check on Orbitz actually shows KLM to be more expensive than six other airlines in business on, for example, IAD-CDG at $2500. I bought it for $2100 on a combination of LH and UA.
The US Thanksgiving holiday is the time to go to from the US to Europe if you like discount business class fares! ^
Oct 30, 2013, 7:13 pm
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Definitely a trend.
A quick check on Orbitz actually shows KLM to be more expensive than six other airlines in business on, for example, IAD-CDG at $2500. I bought it for $2100 on a combination of LH and UA.
The US Thanksgiving holiday is the time to go to from the US to Europe if you like discount business class fares! ^
A quick check on Orbitz actually shows KLM to be more expensive than six other airlines in business on, for example, IAD-CDG at $2500. I bought it for $2100 on a combination of LH and UA.
The US Thanksgiving holiday is the time to go to from the US to Europe if you like discount business class fares! ^
Oct 30, 2013, 7:19 pm
#2054
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Definitely a trend.
A quick check on Orbitz actually shows KLM to be more expensive than six other airlines in business on, for example, IAD-CDG at $2500. I bought it for $2100 on a combination of LH and UA.
The US Thanksgiving holiday is the time to go to from the US to Europe if you like discount business class fares! ^
A quick check on Orbitz actually shows KLM to be more expensive than six other airlines in business on, for example, IAD-CDG at $2500. I bought it for $2100 on a combination of LH and UA.
The US Thanksgiving holiday is the time to go to from the US to Europe if you like discount business class fares! ^
Nov 1, 2013, 6:04 am
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QR Companion Fares
QR are offering companion fares on their business class product. Best of the bunch looks to be:
LHR-MLE at £3,095
MAN-MEL at £4,606
Both of those prices are AI for TWO pax travelling together.
Purchase by 14/11/13. Travel by 31/03/13.
LHR-MLE at £3,095
MAN-MEL at £4,606
Both of those prices are AI for TWO pax travelling together.
Purchase by 14/11/13. Travel by 31/03/13.