May 21, 13, 12:18 pm
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- Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!!!!!!
- Double check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTA's confuse booking classes on some airlines.
- Post as many details as possible about the First / Business fare, including fare class, fare basis, one-way / roundtrip, sales channel, sample dates & total price, including taxes.
- Post the details within the thread itself and not in the post title field as any information typed here cannot be seen by members accessing the thread using mobile devices.
- Refrain from posting fare requests or engaging in off topic debates such as fare trends, specific aircraft configuration or visa requirements
- The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain country of origin, so don't ask if it works in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
- Last, but not least, Don't call the Airline!
Good Deal Premium Fares 2013
Oct 10, 13, 5:53 pm
#1966
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: JAL Mileage Bank, oneworld Sapphire, Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 16,033
Oct 11, 13, 10:13 am
#1967
Join Date: Oct 2006
Programs: star alliance
Posts: 26
Lax-nrt $3630 nh rt f
Not sure if this has been posted, but it looks pretty consistent starting second week of January until next Oct. Fly out of LAX on mon-thru, I tried for 6-9 days stay and the fare was approx. the same. I could not find the fare on ana, but was able to find it on an OTA (orbitz) but have not actually booked. Also note, I also saw some availability on AA for about $400 less, I didn't look out to see if there was as wide open availability, but here are two examples in Feb:
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Oct 11, 13, 2:17 pm
#1968
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,056
Not sure if this has been posted, but it looks pretty consistent starting second week of January until next Oct. Fly out of LAX on mon-thru, I tried for 6-9 days stay and the fare was approx. the same. I could not find the fare on ana, but was able to find it on an OTA (orbitz) but have not actually booked. Also note, I also saw some availability on AA for about $400 less, I didn't look out to see if there was as wide open availability, but here are two examples in Feb:
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Oct 11, 13, 3:43 pm
#1969
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,068
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Oct 11, 13, 3:49 pm
#1970
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,068
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Business fares are also in that range on various carriers, i.e. AC, DL.
For giggles, SQ comes in at $4,100.
Oct 11, 13, 3:52 pm
#1971
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: The City of Angels, CA
Programs: Nothing current
Posts: 392
Not sure if this has been posted, but it looks pretty consistent starting second week of January until next Oct. Fly out of LAX on mon-thru, I tried for 6-9 days stay and the fare was approx. the same. I could not find the fare on ana, but was able to find it on an OTA (orbitz) but have not actually booked. Also note, I also saw some availability on AA for about $400 less, I didn't look out to see if there was as wide open availability, but here are two examples in Feb:
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 169 Dep: 11:15AM Arr: 4:20PM 12h 5m Boeing 777 First (P)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
American Airlines Inc. American Airlines Inc. 170 Dep: 4:10PM Arr: 9:00AM 9h 50m Boeing 777 First (P)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,323.20
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,323.20
Los Angeles (LAX) to Tokyo (NRT) - Mon, Feb 17
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 5 Dep: 11:30AM Arr: 4:25PM 11h 55m Boeing 777 First (A)
Tue, Feb 18
Tokyo (NRT) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Tue, Feb 25
All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. All Nippon Airways Co. Ltd. 6 Dep: 5:05PM Arr: 9:50AM 9h 45m Boeing 777 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $3,629.60
Total cost for 1 passenger $3,629.60
However, caveat emptor. Although I have no doubt that NH will handle things better, see this thread about AA for some pitfalls of -UP fares.
-S
Oct 11, 13, 3:53 pm
#1972
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist, Virtuoso Travel Agent, Commercial Pilot
Posts: 2,090
50-day advance purchase, 3 day min stay, 12M max stay. Cheapest fares are valid Monday - Thursday; weekends are $250 each way more.
Oct 11, 13, 3:54 pm
#1973
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,056
Fare 1: Carrier NH DFXG3BUP NYC to TYO (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A
Covers JFK-NRT (First)
$2,543.00
Fare 2: Carrier NH DFXG3BUP TYO to NYC (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A
Covers NRT-JFK (First)
$2,543.00
(YQ) $518.00
NH YQ surcharge (YQ) $6.40
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.20
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $2.50
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $4.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) $21.10
Passenger Security Service Charge (OI) $5.20
US International Arrival Tax (US) $17.20
Subtotal per passenger $5,695.60
Number of passengers x1
TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $5,695.60
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
NH F JFK-NRT-JFK (For comparison, Cathay comes in at over 28K for same dates)
WORTH NOTING: Major change/cancel fees apply to these promo fares, looks to be the following sale...
MIDWEEK FIRST CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES A
Between AREA 1 and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A
Covers JFK-NRT (First)
$2,543.00
Fare 2: Carrier NH DFXG3BUP TYO to NYC (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code A
Covers NRT-JFK (First)
$2,543.00
(YQ) $518.00
NH YQ surcharge (YQ) $6.40
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.20
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $2.50
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $4.50
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $5.00
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) $21.10
Passenger Security Service Charge (OI) $5.20
US International Arrival Tax (US) $17.20
Subtotal per passenger $5,695.60
Number of passengers x1
TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $5,695.60
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
NH F JFK-NRT-JFK (For comparison, Cathay comes in at over 28K for same dates)
WORTH NOTING: Major change/cancel fees apply to these promo fares, looks to be the following sale...
MIDWEEK FIRST CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES A
Between AREA 1 and AREA 3 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Oct 12, 13, 9:36 am
#1974
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SJC/PIT
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, TK Elite
Posts: 519
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
Oct 12, 13, 9:42 am
#1975
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 95
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
Oct 12, 13, 10:07 am
#1976
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,068
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
UA's J fare is pricing at $2,889 in March.
JFK-SFO-ICN-SFO-JFK
($2,589 departing late Feb.)
Edit:
Can also route EWR-IAH-NRT-ICN-SFO-ORD-EWR
$2,919
Last edited by BumpMe!; Oct 12, 13 at 10:31 am Reason: added NRT routing
Oct 12, 13, 10:15 am
#1977
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wanting First. Buying First.
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Posts: 15,635
That really depends on the alternatives now doesn't it?
My last flight in AA international F was just fine. Certainly not a CX/EK/SQ experience but then again I don't see those carriers offering too many ~$3500 fares ex-USA in the pointy end of the plane.
If the value is there, no reason not to fly AA int'l F.
My last flight in AA international F was just fine. Certainly not a CX/EK/SQ experience but then again I don't see those carriers offering too many ~$3500 fares ex-USA in the pointy end of the plane.
If the value is there, no reason not to fly AA int'l F.
Oct 12, 13, 10:25 am
#1978
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN
Posts: 3,212
Something along this line (though not as good as NH), AA has nice NYC/LAX-ICN F fare (P1X9Q4D1) with no min stay, 12M max stay, 90 days advance purchase, Mo-Th transpac. Prices at ~$3,100 a/i on aa.com but outbound requires overnight at DFW to catch the morning ICN flight. Weekends $250 more each way.
Oct 12, 13, 10:32 am
#1979
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SJC/PIT
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, TK Elite
Posts: 519
Haha, I don't disagree, but having no min stay requirement is quite nice. F is actually cheaper than J for short trips.
Hadn't checked the LGA route. Thanks!
Hadn't checked the LGA route. Thanks!
