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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:19 pm
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This thread is to discuss the historically annual premium class fare sales that occur for travel (mostly TATL) during the US Thanksgiving holiday period.

FAQ

Q: When is Thanksgiving? What travel dates are covered in the Thanksgiving Day sales?
A: Thanksgiving in the United States is observed on the 4th Thursday of November.

The week of Thanksgiving and the weekend after are considered to be the busiest period for US domestic air travel due to large numbers of people traveling to spend the holiday with loved ones. As a result business travel demand, especially for international business travel, is unusually weak. This drop in demand is believed to be the origin for the Thanksgiving holiday international business class fares.

Typically these fares are offered for travel outbound from the US in the period from the Sunday before to the day after Thanksgiving. Return travel is usually valid for the day after Thanksgiving to the following Wednesday.

Q: When do the Thanksgiving fare sales start?
A: Sometime in the summer with an average start date of Aug 4.
The first reports, by year, posted on the message boards of Thanksgiving holiday sales are as follows:

2015: Jul 25**
2014: Aug 9
2013: Jun 18
2012: Jul 11
2011: Aug 8
2010: Aug 18
2009: Aug 11
2008: Jul 2
2007: Sep 22

**In 2015, on Sep 30 OW initiated a very brief 2nd round of discounted fares. It only lasted about 18 hours.

Q: How good are the Thanksgiving sales? What are some typical prices?
A: Many times the Thanksgiving airfare deals are the lowest TATL premium class fares offered the entire calendar year.

The lowest prices reported to the board each year are as follows:

Note: All prices from here on out are all-in round-trip/return prices in J unless otherwise noted.
2015: $1608 NYC-LIS on OW
2014: $1625 JFK-MAD on a combination of US/AY. Sample dates: 11/27-12/02
2013: $1400~ NYC-LHR/DUB/MAN on UA/DL/AF/KL
2012: $854 EWR-DUB on US
2011: $1380 NYC-DUB on *A
2010: $1272 EWR-LHR on CO
2009: $1309 EWR-OSL on CO
2008: $1560 PIT-FRA on AA
2007: $1100~ EWR-ZRH on UA


Some other notable deals reported:

2015
$1795 NYC-LIS on ST

2014
$1700 JFK-ARN on AY
$1800 JFK-BCN/MAD on ST/OW
$1940 MIA-MAD/MAD-JFK on OW/*A
$1950 MCI-MAD/BCN on OW
$2050 EWR-OSL/ARN on *A
$2000-$2100 BOS-MAD/ARN
$2074-$2120 MIA-MAD/BCN on ST/OW/*A
$2088 BOS-MAD
$2100 NYC-OSL on ST
$2157 DFW-MAD on OW
$2800 LAX/SFO-MAD/BCN

2013
$1417 JFK-LHR/DUB-JFK on ST
$1444 PHL-FRA/MUC on US
$1448 JFK-LHR/LIS-JFK on ST
$1486 EWR-BRU on *A (+9W)
$1500 JFK-LHR on VS
$1514 JFK-LHR/BCN-JFK on ST
$1519 JFK-LHR/MAD-JFK on ST
$1537 JFK-LHR/BSL-JFK on ST
$1539 JFK-LHR/GVA-JFK on ST
$1544 JFK-LHR/BRU-JFK on ST
$1563 JFK-LHR/DUB-BOS (booked Oct 30)
$1600+ NYC-FRA/MUC/VIE/GVA on *A
$1612 JFK-LON (booked Sep 19)
$1613 NYC-LHR on *A
$1629 JFK-BCN
$1673 EWR-AMS (booked Jun 30)
$1753 LGA-AMS on *A
$1900 RSW-LIS/CPH/LHR/OSL on *A
$1965 JFK-CDG on ST
$1986 BOS-VIE on *A (booked Sep 15)
$2025 IAH-LHR on OW/ST/*A
$2050 NYC-IST
$2115 JFK-MLA on *A?
$2120 AGS-LHR/AMS-SFO on ST
$2200-$2300 LAX/SFO/SEA-???
$2237 IAD-FCO on *A
$2344 MIA-LED on ST
$2400~ DEN-TXL on *A
$2464~ SFO-LHR
$2500-2600 LAS-LHR/CDG
$2566 SAN-AMS on ST
$2605 LAX-CDG on ST
$3000~ ORD-LHR on *A in F
$3663 SFO-LHR in F
$3666 SFO-LHR on UA in F

2012
$1050 BOS-DUB on *A
$1085 LGA-MAD on *A
$1250 JFK-LHR on VS
$1270 ORD-DUB on *A
$1659 JFK-BRU on *A/ST
$1696 AGS-LHR/AMS-JFK on *A/ST
$1754 BOS-LHR on ST/VS
$1936 LAX/SFO(?)-MAD
$1960 RDU-FCO on ST
$1977 RST-LHR on ST
$2000- AGS/BHM/CAE/CHA/GSP/SAV-LHR on ST
$2000+ LAX/SFO(?)-FCO/CDG/ATH
$2100~ MSY-OSL on ST
$2300~ SFO-LHR/FRA on *A
$2427 CMH-LHR on OW in F
$2540 JFK-IST on ST
$2571 ATL-LHR on ST
$2662 BOS-IST on ST? (booked Jul 31)
$3600 LAX-LHR on *A in F

2011
$1400 JFK-LHR/BRU/CDG on ST
$1414 JFK-BRU on OW
$1475 EWR-LHR on *A
$1491 JFK-BCN on OW
$1500- NYC-BRU/CDG/LIS/MAD/FRA/DUB/AMS/VIE/MAN/OSL/SNN/GVA/CPH/MUC on *A
$1650 EWR-FCO on *A
$1668 IAD-CDG on *A
$1700 IAH-DUB on *A
$1717 DCA-MAD on OW
$1860 CMH-MAD on *A
$1900 WAS-LHR on UA
$1907 BNA-BCN on ST
$2035 FNT-FCO on ST
$2033 BNA-FCO on ST
$2258 LAX/SAN-BRU on ST
$2285~ DEN/LAX/SFO-LHR on *A
$2297 SFO-MUC on OW
$2400 JFK-MUC on *A in F
$2916 WAS-LHR on *A in F
$3640 SFO-LHR on *A in F
$3740~ SFO-FRA/MUC on *A in F
$4000~ LAX-LHR on *A in F
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Jul 25, 2015, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by 18sas
FYI, SkyTeam has dropped a couple of $100 on all routes.

NYC-LIS is now pricing out at $1798. Hopefully other alliances will follow and they'll drop even more!!!
Noticing the same - SEA-ARN or CPH or OSL are all $2700 instead of $3000 now. Same with Munich, Berlin, Dublin, and Rome. None of these were showing earlier in that range.
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Old Jul 25, 2015, 8:12 pm
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fares have dropped. I am now seeing on DL.com JFK - FRA/MAD/SVO/LHR for $2,000.00 AI/RT.
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Old Jul 25, 2015, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
fares have dropped. I am now seeing on DL.com JFK - FRA/MAD/SVO/LHR for $2,000.00 AI/RT.
These so-called "Thanksgiving Fares" are only slightly lower than the regular Z fares.
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Old Jul 25, 2015, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by steveholt
Weird. Just did an ITA search that brought up JFK-LHR nonstop for $1875 on DL, with a few options for $5 more that routed through BOS. Searched again a few minutes later and it was gone, back up over $2200.
Not sure I would call this weird. Maybe if it had stayed the same or gone down.
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Old Jul 26, 2015, 9:07 am
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so far fares are uninspiring to say the least
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Old Jul 27, 2015, 7:22 am
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer
These so-called "Thanksgiving Fares" are only slightly lower than the regular Z fares.
yeah, by like $700-$800 or so.
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Old Jul 27, 2015, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
yeah, by like $700-$800 or so.
$100-$200.
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Old Jul 27, 2015, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer
so far fares are uninspiring to say the least
Originally Posted by DL2SXM
yeah, by like $700-$800 or so.
Originally Posted by Dieuwer
$100-$200.
compared to routinely seeing $1200-$1600 fares just a few years ago it is pretty clear that Thanksgiving these days is no cheaper than x-mas.
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Old Jul 28, 2015, 1:21 am
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Some of the routes have gone back up - ATH, CPH, LIS, ARN, OSL all a couple hundred bucks more than they were from the west coast.

Bermuda has dropped another $200 though, seeing just over $700 from SEA.
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Old Jul 28, 2015, 6:25 am
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It could well be that many biz seats over the Thanksgiving period are already sold so the airlines are under less pressure to unload inventory than previous years. We have seen many sales in the past 12 months and most have included the dates around Thanksgiving.

East Coast - Europe fares at $2k+ are mostly worse than other non-Thanksgiving sale periods such as Xmas etc.
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 8:50 am
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How is this for a sale: BOS-MAD r/t for $3500 ai.
Airlines are gripped with insanity if they think anyone in their right mind would pay these prices to fly J over Thanksgiving.
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 8:53 am
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Actually, it can work in your favor.

For example, my company has an alternative travel policy. I'm allowed to fly another destination instead of home up to the value of the fare to fly home. Last year I flew F to London from JFK instead of F to DFW for the same amount of money.

Naturally, the F fare to London was a Thanksgiving sale fare, and the F fare to DFW overpriced compared to the norm.
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MIA-SVO is $2070 on SkyTeam and *A. OneWorld doesn't seem to match this.

After NYC-LIS this is the best deal available so far, though MIA-SVO should beat it in terms of cpm.
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Old Aug 7, 2015, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by 18sas
MIA-SVO is $2070 on SkyTeam and *A. OneWorld doesn't seem to match this.

After NYC-LIS this is the best deal available so far, though MIA-SVO should beat it in terms of cpm.
Yes, a good deal indeed. However, don't forget to add the ca. $230 cost of a Russian visa to this, if comparing to other non-visa destinations.
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Old Aug 8, 2015, 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by arkangel
Yes, a good deal indeed. However, don't forget to add the ca. $230 cost of a Russian visa to this, if comparing to other non-visa destinations.
that is if you don't already have a russian visa. I very much enjoyed my stay in Russia this last April and would consider going again for the holidays, unless of course the US State Dept issues a travel advisory/warning to stay out.
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