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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:19 pm
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This thread is to discuss the historically annual premium class fare sales that occur for travel (mostly TATL) during the US Thanksgiving holiday period.

FAQ

Q: When is Thanksgiving? What travel dates are covered in the Thanksgiving Day sales?
A: Thanksgiving in the United States is observed on the 4th Thursday of November.

The week of Thanksgiving and the weekend after are considered to be the busiest period for US domestic air travel due to large numbers of people traveling to spend the holiday with loved ones. As a result business travel demand, especially for international business travel, is unusually weak. This drop in demand is believed to be the origin for the Thanksgiving holiday international business class fares.

Typically these fares are offered for travel outbound from the US in the period from the Sunday before to the day after Thanksgiving. Return travel is usually valid for the day after Thanksgiving to the following Wednesday.

Q: When do the Thanksgiving fare sales start?
A: Sometime in the summer with an average start date of Aug 4.
The first reports, by year, posted on the message boards of Thanksgiving holiday sales are as follows:

2015: Jul 25**
2014: Aug 9
2013: Jun 18
2012: Jul 11
2011: Aug 8
2010: Aug 18
2009: Aug 11
2008: Jul 2
2007: Sep 22

**In 2015, on Sep 30 OW initiated a very brief 2nd round of discounted fares. It only lasted about 18 hours.

Q: How good are the Thanksgiving sales? What are some typical prices?
A: Many times the Thanksgiving airfare deals are the lowest TATL premium class fares offered the entire calendar year.

The lowest prices reported to the board each year are as follows:

Note: All prices from here on out are all-in round-trip/return prices in J unless otherwise noted.
2015: $1608 NYC-LIS on OW
2014: $1625 JFK-MAD on a combination of US/AY. Sample dates: 11/27-12/02
2013: $1400~ NYC-LHR/DUB/MAN on UA/DL/AF/KL
2012: $854 EWR-DUB on US
2011: $1380 NYC-DUB on *A
2010: $1272 EWR-LHR on CO
2009: $1309 EWR-OSL on CO
2008: $1560 PIT-FRA on AA
2007: $1100~ EWR-ZRH on UA


Some other notable deals reported:

2015
$1795 NYC-LIS on ST

2014
$1700 JFK-ARN on AY
$1800 JFK-BCN/MAD on ST/OW
$1940 MIA-MAD/MAD-JFK on OW/*A
$1950 MCI-MAD/BCN on OW
$2050 EWR-OSL/ARN on *A
$2000-$2100 BOS-MAD/ARN
$2074-$2120 MIA-MAD/BCN on ST/OW/*A
$2088 BOS-MAD
$2100 NYC-OSL on ST
$2157 DFW-MAD on OW
$2800 LAX/SFO-MAD/BCN

2013
$1417 JFK-LHR/DUB-JFK on ST
$1444 PHL-FRA/MUC on US
$1448 JFK-LHR/LIS-JFK on ST
$1486 EWR-BRU on *A (+9W)
$1500 JFK-LHR on VS
$1514 JFK-LHR/BCN-JFK on ST
$1519 JFK-LHR/MAD-JFK on ST
$1537 JFK-LHR/BSL-JFK on ST
$1539 JFK-LHR/GVA-JFK on ST
$1544 JFK-LHR/BRU-JFK on ST
$1563 JFK-LHR/DUB-BOS (booked Oct 30)
$1600+ NYC-FRA/MUC/VIE/GVA on *A
$1612 JFK-LON (booked Sep 19)
$1613 NYC-LHR on *A
$1629 JFK-BCN
$1673 EWR-AMS (booked Jun 30)
$1753 LGA-AMS on *A
$1900 RSW-LIS/CPH/LHR/OSL on *A
$1965 JFK-CDG on ST
$1986 BOS-VIE on *A (booked Sep 15)
$2025 IAH-LHR on OW/ST/*A
$2050 NYC-IST
$2115 JFK-MLA on *A?
$2120 AGS-LHR/AMS-SFO on ST
$2200-$2300 LAX/SFO/SEA-???
$2237 IAD-FCO on *A
$2344 MIA-LED on ST
$2400~ DEN-TXL on *A
$2464~ SFO-LHR
$2500-2600 LAS-LHR/CDG
$2566 SAN-AMS on ST
$2605 LAX-CDG on ST
$3000~ ORD-LHR on *A in F
$3663 SFO-LHR in F
$3666 SFO-LHR on UA in F

2012
$1050 BOS-DUB on *A
$1085 LGA-MAD on *A
$1250 JFK-LHR on VS
$1270 ORD-DUB on *A
$1659 JFK-BRU on *A/ST
$1696 AGS-LHR/AMS-JFK on *A/ST
$1754 BOS-LHR on ST/VS
$1936 LAX/SFO(?)-MAD
$1960 RDU-FCO on ST
$1977 RST-LHR on ST
$2000- AGS/BHM/CAE/CHA/GSP/SAV-LHR on ST
$2000+ LAX/SFO(?)-FCO/CDG/ATH
$2100~ MSY-OSL on ST
$2300~ SFO-LHR/FRA on *A
$2427 CMH-LHR on OW in F
$2540 JFK-IST on ST
$2571 ATL-LHR on ST
$2662 BOS-IST on ST? (booked Jul 31)
$3600 LAX-LHR on *A in F

2011
$1400 JFK-LHR/BRU/CDG on ST
$1414 JFK-BRU on OW
$1475 EWR-LHR on *A
$1491 JFK-BCN on OW
$1500- NYC-BRU/CDG/LIS/MAD/FRA/DUB/AMS/VIE/MAN/OSL/SNN/GVA/CPH/MUC on *A
$1650 EWR-FCO on *A
$1668 IAD-CDG on *A
$1700 IAH-DUB on *A
$1717 DCA-MAD on OW
$1860 CMH-MAD on *A
$1900 WAS-LHR on UA
$1907 BNA-BCN on ST
$2035 FNT-FCO on ST
$2033 BNA-FCO on ST
$2258 LAX/SAN-BRU on ST
$2285~ DEN/LAX/SFO-LHR on *A
$2297 SFO-MUC on OW
$2400 JFK-MUC on *A in F
$2916 WAS-LHR on *A in F
$3640 SFO-LHR on *A in F
$3740~ SFO-FRA/MUC on *A in F
$4000~ LAX-LHR on *A in F
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Thanksgiving premium fare discussion

Old Aug 21, 2015, 9:34 am
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I'm about to give up hope for anything decent this year (my threshold is around $1,600 but have done these for as low as $998). Had saved some Marriott points for this purpose but may just use them for a domestic US trip.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by vatraveler
I'm about to give up hope for anything decent this year (my threshold is around $1,600 but have done these for as low as $998).
There is still plenty of time before Thanksgiving to file better (lower) fares.
I know it is not an exact science, but I looked at several seats maps and almost all of them show 80%+ unoccupied seats.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by vatraveler
I'm about to give up hope for anything decent this year (my threshold is around $1,600 but have done these for as low as $998). Had saved some Marriott points for this purpose but may just use them for a domestic US trip.
I don't think you will find anything for close to $998 unless you want Y. My hunch is that you might see it drop to around $1900 but no less then that
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
I don't think you will find anything for close to $998 unless you want Y. My hunch is that you might see it drop to around $1900 but no less then that
If I saw something like last year (just over $1600 JFK-LHR-JFK), I would probably jump on that. We're in the $2300 range now - not gonna happen.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 12:03 pm
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I think you need to wait. My Thanksgiving deal in 2014 didn't show up until the second week of October.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 2:44 pm
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If travelling from Canada, very good deals from various cities to Europe over thanksgivings.

US$1750 YYZ-BRU for example.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Mict
If travelling from Canada, very good deals from various cities to Europe over thanksgivings.

US$1750 YYZ-BRU for example.
Hi Mict- Yes you are correct. The deals from Canada are very good and are available for a wider range of dates than the very limited dates for the Thanksgiving deals.

For anyone that can get across the border easily, it probably would be better to take advantage of one of those than try for the few meager crumbs we're being thrown under the guise of US Thanksgiving sales.

A couple of threads where the CAN>EU deals are being discussed:
YYZ-FCO CAD 2298 in Alitalia Business
ST/*A: Canada to EU in Business - USD1900 RT AI

I was able to take advantage of the LIS Thanksgiving deal during the brief period where DL dropped the fares by $200. It actually works out for me because I was able to fly from ATL with a stopover in MIA, then to LIS, finally returning to JFK. Price was right around $2043 ai.

I consider this a good deal because I only need to position from JFK back to ATL at the end.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Mict
If travelling from Canada, very good deals from various cities to Europe over thanksgivings.

US$1750 YYZ-BRU for example.
Is that for Canadian Thnaksgivings in October, for the U.S. one in Novemeber, or for both?
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by bmchris
I think you need to wait. My Thanksgiving deal in 2014 didn't show up until the second week of October.
Good to know. What kind of price did you get, and what was your routing?

I know the original deals in 2014 were filed for 50-day advance purchase. Once they expired, they refiled for 28-day AP, then again for 14 I believe.

None of the ones that I was watching dropped from their original high perch, but I was only looking at a few routings.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Is that for Canadian Thnaksgivings in October, for the U.S. one in Novemeber, or for both?
The ex-CAN deals are pretty wide open from Oct 1 through Jun 18 2016, almost to EOS.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by 18sas
The ex-CAN deals are pretty wide open from Oct 1 through Jun 18 2016, almost to EOS.
And fares are pretty cheap from NYC to YYZ. RT Is under $300.00 typically but I guess once you throw that in, it brings the overall fare up to $2,000ish. Still savings of a few hundred bucks.
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Old Aug 21, 2015, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by DL2SXM
And fares are pretty cheap from NYC to YYZ. RT Is under $300.00 typically but I guess once you throw that in, it brings the overall fare up to $2,000ish. Still savings of a few hundred bucks.
Since I almost always stay overnight in both directions on my positioning flights, I tend to to think of that cost as a separate trip, sort of like 2 trips rolled into 1.

But even calculating all of the costs together, $2k is still better than practically every other TATL J deal seen out of NYC recently.
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Old Aug 22, 2015, 7:06 pm
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Originally Posted by 18sas
The ex-CAN deals are pretty wide open from Oct 1 through Jun 18 2016, almost to EOS.
Indeed, for May 2016 I found attractive BF pricing on United routes from YYZ to EU Mediterranean countries. My location in Ohio makes a drive to YYZ a piece of cake. Thus, no need for repositioning flights.
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I hate to say it guys/gals but it doesn't look like thanksgiving fares will drop any lower.
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Old Aug 24, 2015, 7:05 am
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Why? Because the price of oil is plunging and the confidence in world stock markets is tanking?
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