Last edit by: orbitmic
Information kindly collated by SleepySynapse
Group 0 called before Group 1? (To post 1221)
AGP - mixed
No: 31st March (1059)
Yes: 2nd April (1166)
ALC - no
No: 1st April (1096)
AMS - mostly yes
Yes: 28th March (1038), 1st April (1106), 2nd April (1139)
No: 28th March (996)
ARN - yes
Yes: 27th March (923), 3rd April (1168)
ATH - no
No: 2nd April (1178)
ATL - yes
Yes: 28th March (1141)
BHD - no
No: 30th March (1044), 31st March (1082), 2nd April (1152)
BOM - no
No: 6th April (1216)
BOS - yes
Yes: 1st April (1084)
BRU - mixed
No: 1st April (1083)
Yes: 10th April (1312)
BSL - no
No: 30th March
BUD - mixed
Yes: 30th March (1043)
No: 30th March (1050)
CDG - mixed
No: 26th March (887), 2nd April (1175)
Yes: 28th March (987)
CUN - yes
Yes: 27th March (1030)
DOH - no
No: 3rd April (1164)
DUB - yes
Yes: 26th March (908), 27th March (951), 27th March (964), 29th March (1028), early April (1213)
EDI - yes
Yes: 26th March (919),27th March (912), 4th April (1185)
FNC - no
No: 31st March (1134)
GLA - yes
Yes: 26th March (895), 28th March (1035), 2nd April (1122), 2nd April (1139)
GOT - mixed
Yes: 28th March (975)
No: 1st April (1136)
GVA - yes
Yes: 28th March, 31st March (1137), 2nd April (1135)
HKG - yes
Yes: 2nd April (1163)
INN - no at bus gates
No: 28th March *bus gate* (968)
IST - no
No: 5th April (1197)
JER - mixed
No: (1039)
Yes: 3rd April (1174)
JFK - yes
Yes: 31st March (1087)
LAS - yes
Yes: 22nd April (1495)
LCY - yes
Yes: 27th March (916), 27th March (970), 2nd April (1171)
LGW - mostly yes
Yes: 26th March (905), 27th March (917), 28th March (965), 28th March (989), 28th March (1016), 28th March (1106), 31st March (1052), late March (1132)
No: 28th March (1166), 29th March (1010), 30th March (1042), early April (1182)
LHR - mostly yes
Yes: 26th March (883), 26th March (884), 27th March (913), 27th March (942),27th March (960), 28th March (1027), 29th March (1030), 29th March (1031), 30th March *bus gate* (1040),31st March (1074), 31st March (1082), 31st March (1082), 31st March *T3* (1136), 1st April (1107), 2nd April *T3* (1126), 2nd April *bus* (1139), 2nd April (1175), 4th April *T3* (1186), 4th April (1191), early April (1192), early April *T3* (1210), 4th April *bus* (1212), 6th April (1211), 6th April (1219), 8th April 2024 (1312)
No: 26th March (857), 26th March (861), 26th March (873), 26th March (895), 26th March (904), 27th March (959), 28th March *bus gate* (990), 29th March *T3* (1026), 30th March (1044), 30th March (1044), 31st March (1061), 1st April (1088), early April (1192), 12th April *T3* (1334), 24 April JFK
LPA - no
No: 3rd April (1183)
MAD - no
No: 1st April (1086)
MAN - yes
Yes: 27th March (937), 27th March (952), 29th March (1032), 11th April (1315)
MLA - no
No: 29th March (1036)
MLE - no
No: 28th March *bus* (1170)
MUC - no
No: 26th March (892)
Yes: 17 April (949)
NCE - no
No: 24 April
NCL - not really, but generally straight on board
Not really: 1st April (1088), early April (1192)
No, when waiting in gate area: 3rd April (1211)
ORD - yes
Yes: 28th March (999), 28th March (1000)
OSL - yes
Yes: 3rd April (1160)
OTP - no
No: early April (1167)
POS - no
No: 2nd April (1184)
PRG - yes
Yes: 5th April (1198)
PSA - yes
Yes: 15th April
RTM - no
No: 5th April (1201)
RUH - yes
Yes: 27th March (939)
SOF - no
No: 14th April (1359)
SCL - yes
Yes: 4th Apil (1187)
SIN - mixed
No: 31st March (1073)
Yes: 6th April (1221)
SYD - mixed
No: 31st March (1049)
Yes: 7th April (1217)
TFS - no
No: early April (1182)
VIE - no
No: 6th April (1200)
ZRH - mixed
Yes: 26th March (958),31st March (1060), 1st April (1105)
No: 26th March (963), 5th April (1211)
__PRESENT
Group 0 called before Group 1? (To post 1221)
AGP - mixed
No: 31st March (1059)
Yes: 2nd April (1166)
ALC - no
No: 1st April (1096)
AMS - mostly yes
Yes: 28th March (1038), 1st April (1106), 2nd April (1139)
No: 28th March (996)
ARN - yes
Yes: 27th March (923), 3rd April (1168)
ATH - no
No: 2nd April (1178)
ATL - yes
Yes: 28th March (1141)
BHD - no
No: 30th March (1044), 31st March (1082), 2nd April (1152)
BOM - no
No: 6th April (1216)
BOS - yes
Yes: 1st April (1084)
BRU - mixed
No: 1st April (1083)
Yes: 10th April (1312)
BSL - no
No: 30th March
BUD - mixed
Yes: 30th March (1043)
No: 30th March (1050)
CDG - mixed
No: 26th March (887), 2nd April (1175)
Yes: 28th March (987)
CUN - yes
Yes: 27th March (1030)
DOH - no
No: 3rd April (1164)
DUB - yes
Yes: 26th March (908), 27th March (951), 27th March (964), 29th March (1028), early April (1213)
EDI - yes
Yes: 26th March (919),27th March (912), 4th April (1185)
FNC - no
No: 31st March (1134)
GLA - yes
Yes: 26th March (895), 28th March (1035), 2nd April (1122), 2nd April (1139)
GOT - mixed
Yes: 28th March (975)
No: 1st April (1136)
GVA - yes
Yes: 28th March, 31st March (1137), 2nd April (1135)
HKG - yes
Yes: 2nd April (1163)
INN - no at bus gates
No: 28th March *bus gate* (968)
IST - no
No: 5th April (1197)
JER - mixed
No: (1039)
Yes: 3rd April (1174)
JFK - yes
Yes: 31st March (1087)
LAS - yes
Yes: 22nd April (1495)
LCY - yes
Yes: 27th March (916), 27th March (970), 2nd April (1171)
LGW - mostly yes
Yes: 26th March (905), 27th March (917), 28th March (965), 28th March (989), 28th March (1016), 28th March (1106), 31st March (1052), late March (1132)
No: 28th March (1166), 29th March (1010), 30th March (1042), early April (1182)
LHR - mostly yes
Yes: 26th March (883), 26th March (884), 27th March (913), 27th March (942),27th March (960), 28th March (1027), 29th March (1030), 29th March (1031), 30th March *bus gate* (1040),31st March (1074), 31st March (1082), 31st March (1082), 31st March *T3* (1136), 1st April (1107), 2nd April *T3* (1126), 2nd April *bus* (1139), 2nd April (1175), 4th April *T3* (1186), 4th April (1191), early April (1192), early April *T3* (1210), 4th April *bus* (1212), 6th April (1211), 6th April (1219), 8th April 2024 (1312)
No: 26th March (857), 26th March (861), 26th March (873), 26th March (895), 26th March (904), 27th March (959), 28th March *bus gate* (990), 29th March *T3* (1026), 30th March (1044), 30th March (1044), 31st March (1061), 1st April (1088), early April (1192), 12th April *T3* (1334), 24 April JFK
LPA - no
No: 3rd April (1183)
MAD - no
No: 1st April (1086)
MAN - yes
Yes: 27th March (937), 27th March (952), 29th March (1032), 11th April (1315)
MLA - no
No: 29th March (1036)
MLE - no
No: 28th March *bus* (1170)
MUC - no
No: 26th March (892)
Yes: 17 April (949)
NCE - no
No: 24 April
NCL - not really, but generally straight on board
Not really: 1st April (1088), early April (1192)
No, when waiting in gate area: 3rd April (1211)
ORD - yes
Yes: 28th March (999), 28th March (1000)
OSL - yes
Yes: 3rd April (1160)
OTP - no
No: early April (1167)
POS - no
No: 2nd April (1184)
PRG - yes
Yes: 5th April (1198)
PSA - yes
Yes: 15th April
RTM - no
No: 5th April (1201)
RUH - yes
Yes: 27th March (939)
SOF - no
No: 14th April (1359)
SCL - yes
Yes: 4th Apil (1187)
SIN - mixed
No: 31st March (1073)
Yes: 6th April (1221)
SYD - mixed
No: 31st March (1049)
Yes: 7th April (1217)
TFS - no
No: early April (1182)
VIE - no
No: 6th April (1200)
ZRH - mixed
Yes: 26th March (958),31st March (1060), 1st April (1105)
No: 26th March (963), 5th April (1211)
__PRESENT
Group 0 boarding for GGL
#32
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: SYD
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH D, QFF, EB
Posts: 404
The question is how will they measure whether this trial is a success? As has been said where this will be most beneficial is on shorthaul. Is there a risk that if we don't make use of it on the long haul that BA decide it is not wanted at all?
#33
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In the air
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy LT Plat, Hilton Gold, GHA Tit, BA Gold, Turkish Elite
Posts: 8,720
I suspect that on all but the most premium routes (mainly JFK), simply following the designed boarding scheme would have a much greater benefit than trying out new things requiring systems changes and aimed at a group so much smaller than one can’t help but wonder if boarding staff will bother.
BA is putting almost all their effort at service experience enhancements by experimenting with new things. I think they’d do better to instead get the basics right and deliver simple things correctly, efficiently and cleanly instead. Honestly, if BA just worked consistently and to spec I think we’d have relatively few complaints.
#34
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,403
It's just another reason for Gold's to feel privileged and love to form their own queue in front of priority boarding to show they are *so* privileged that they have a right to show they can board before anyone else. I see that all the time. Perplexes me.
#35
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,950
This was something that BA have been looking into since April, and it was meant to have been implemented over summer.
It was then delayed so it could be launched at a time when the airport is less busy, and I'm pleased it's actually happened!
M
It was then delayed so it could be launched at a time when the airport is less busy, and I'm pleased it's actually happened!
M
#36
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: LON, ACK, BOS..... (Not necessarily in that order)
Programs: **Mucci Diamond Hairbrush** - compared to that nothing else matters (+BA Bronze)
Posts: 15,139
Good to see some kind of progress on GGL boarding (Prems already just introduce themselves at the gate and are let through to the seating area before boarding commences)
However, the real advantage in this will be on short haul flights. Hopefully, this comes soon. Maybe GVA or ZRH or FRA would be a good place to start, given the huge number of GCHs on those flight routinely
Some conflicting info above on how to identify yourself as a GGL. I really do not want to have to carry my plastic card and often the app seems to show me as a GCH rather than GGL (unless I refresh it about 20 times)
However, the real advantage in this will be on short haul flights. Hopefully, this comes soon. Maybe GVA or ZRH or FRA would be a good place to start, given the huge number of GCHs on those flight routinely
Some conflicting info above on how to identify yourself as a GGL. I really do not want to have to carry my plastic card and often the app seems to show me as a GCH rather than GGL (unless I refresh it about 20 times)
#37
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Programs: **Mucci Diamond Hairbrush** - compared to that nothing else matters (+BA Bronze)
Posts: 15,139
#38
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 300
surely the benefit would be at precisely the time the airport is more busy?
#40
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Posts: 11,672
#41
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
Though a non-GGL, I do support this change in principle (and I’m sure BA will be glad of my endorsement ) - if only because it is right that any privileges which help smooth the journey are granted according to passenger status.
However, as others have already said, it would perhaps be a better idea if BA managers were to focus their efforts on bringing some consistency and efficiency to the existing Group boarding policy before adding yet another category, with the very real risk of potential further complications.
Am inclined to see one of three likely outcomes :
I suspect there are perhaps other variations-on-a-theme, ie over & above those I have suggested……. ?
It will be interesting to see how things actually pan out in the wild, once launched.
Enforcement, enforcement, enforcement !
However, as others have already said, it would perhaps be a better idea if BA managers were to focus their efforts on bringing some consistency and efficiency to the existing Group boarding policy before adding yet another category, with the very real risk of potential further complications.
Am inclined to see one of three likely outcomes :
- GGL’s are boarded promptly ; but - for other groups - the all-too-frequent chaos and general mayhem continues
- the process remains periodically chaotic for everyone (inc. GGL’s) ….. so, no change
- GGL’s are boarded promptly AND all other groups are henceforth also prioritised correctly …… so, a much-needed all-round improvement
I suspect there are perhaps other variations-on-a-theme, ie over & above those I have suggested……. ?
It will be interesting to see how things actually pan out in the wild, once launched.
Enforcement, enforcement, enforcement !
#45
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: LDN / NY
Programs: BA GGL, Marriott Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 538
I've seen this a few times. Why is it more beneficial on short-haul than long-haul?