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If you have done this trip please help improve the wiki!
If you have done this trip please help improve the wiki!
Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?
Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.
How do I search for dates/prices?
One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
- outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
- inbound: dl+ nrt dtw
NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box
See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)
You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)
I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
- you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
- if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
- for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
- call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover
Do I need a visa?
No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.
What are the best seats?
Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
- one vote for the bulkhead in C+
- DL forum omnibus C+ thread: FAQ: Comfort+ Seating
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread
Will there be wifi on the international legs?
DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.
777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked
Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.
FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)
Other related threads:
Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)
Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet
SIN airport facilities
If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)
Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels
Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.
FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges
Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.
There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.
NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.
Things to do in SIN
In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.
SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.
Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9
Things to do on a long connection through NRT:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html
Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread
There is free wifi in NRT.
Returning to the US
Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)
You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.
Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.
Relevant FT threads:
- CLEAR - worthwhile use of $179? in theTrusted Travelers Forum
- DL-specific thread in the DL Forum
Returning via ATL:
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread
CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.
For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.
(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)
Returning via DTW:
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread
When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.
The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.
Duty Free Liquids
This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:
http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule
FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight
If you have any experience with this, please share!
IRROPS handling:
Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html
Trip Reports/Tips:
2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb
2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep
2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2
2013: Oct
[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)
#871
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, Marriott Plat, Hertz Pres
Posts: 3,649
Go for the AMX $25,000 spend which gives a waiver for the MQD. This what I do every year and it will also give you another 10,000 MQM. Little bit harder if you need $50,000 spend for 2 but charge everything you can on AMX, cell phone, cable, utilities, insurance, gas, groceries, eating out, shopping, gift cards, if necessary read about manufactured spending. Must pay off card each month. Had a choice between spending $800 for an economy ticket to PTY and getting about 8,000 MQM or using 60,000 RDM for J. Will spend RDM and use $ for MR to SIN where I can easily pick up 25,000 MQM for about $1000 if you pick the right time.
#872
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
#873
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: MSP
Programs: DL Gold, DL MM 8/22/16!
Posts: 2,563
Romelle
#874
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares Mar 24 US Mar 25 ATQ LAX Dep
Price are approximate as they are given in Rupees and I coverted to US$
$969 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 23-26 Best price
$975 ai 3.89 cpm Oct 5-8
Other dates not given are higher. Here till sun Mar 29 then to SIN and home on Thr Apr 2!. If you are interested in reason to be here, read post 869 given 3 days ago.
Happy Travels! Cheers!
$969 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 23-26 Best price
$975 ai 3.89 cpm Oct 5-8
Other dates not given are higher. Here till sun Mar 29 then to SIN and home on Thr Apr 2!. If you are interested in reason to be here, read post 869 given 3 days ago.
Happy Travels! Cheers!
#875
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, Marriott Plat, Hertz Pres
Posts: 3,649
The way I'm working the $25k spend is to share the card with two other family members. Maybe you could find somebody similar? The monthly reports are really good about separating the charges by name, and the actual billing date is far enough out to give the other people time to settle up with you before you have to pay.
Romelle
Romelle
#876
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fare Apr 1 LAX Dep
LAX Dep LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$958 ai 3.81 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 23-26 BEST FARE
$974 ai 3.88 CPM Oct 5-8
$1058 ai 4.22 cpm Sep 21-24, Oct 19-22, Nov 16-19, 30-Dec 3, 7-10
$1079 ai 4.30 cpm Oct 12-15
$1131 ai 4.51 cpm Sep 28-Oct 1
Other dares higher fares
Happy Travels! Cheers! Going home in 6 hrs SIN NRT LAX SMF
$958 ai 3.81 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 23-26 BEST FARE
$974 ai 3.88 CPM Oct 5-8
$1058 ai 4.22 cpm Sep 21-24, Oct 19-22, Nov 16-19, 30-Dec 3, 7-10
$1079 ai 4.30 cpm Oct 12-15
$1131 ai 4.51 cpm Sep 28-Oct 1
Other dares higher fares
Happy Travels! Cheers! Going home in 6 hrs SIN NRT LAX SMF
#877
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares Apr 2 SFO Dep
SFO Dep SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
Fares from Google.com/flights
$996 ai 3.93 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 Best Fare
$1028 ai 4.06 cpm Oct 5-8
$1085 ai 4.29 cpm Oct 19-22, Nov 30-Dec 3
$1140 ai 4.50 cpm Dec 7-10
Other dates higher, one more flight LAX SMF, than home at last!
Happy Travels! Cheers!
Fares from Google.com/flights
$996 ai 3.93 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 Best Fare
$1028 ai 4.06 cpm Oct 5-8
$1085 ai 4.29 cpm Oct 19-22, Nov 30-Dec 3
$1140 ai 4.50 cpm Dec 7-10
Other dates higher, one more flight LAX SMF, than home at last!
Happy Travels! Cheers!
#878
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares Apr 6 LAX Dep
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
Only a few dates with low prices so they probably won't last as flights fill prices go up. Other dates much higher
$905 ai 3.6 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12 BEST PRICE
$957 ai 3.8 CPM Nov 16-19, 23-26 (Thanksgiving week)
$1131 ai 4.5 cpm Oct 5-8, 19-22
$1253 ai 4.99 cpm Dec 7-10
$1271 ai 5.06 cpm Nov 30-Dec 3
Good to be home. Happy Travels! Cheers! Please post comments or lower fares. Thanks!
Only a few dates with low prices so they probably won't last as flights fill prices go up. Other dates much higher
$905 ai 3.6 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12 BEST PRICE
$957 ai 3.8 CPM Nov 16-19, 23-26 (Thanksgiving week)
$1131 ai 4.5 cpm Oct 5-8, 19-22
$1253 ai 4.99 cpm Dec 7-10
$1271 ai 5.06 cpm Nov 30-Dec 3
Good to be home. Happy Travels! Cheers! Please post comments or lower fares. Thanks!
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#879
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares Apr 7 SFO Dep
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRTJFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$996 ai 3.93 cpm Oct 26-29,Nov 2-5, 9-12, 23-26 BEST PRICE
$1076 ai 4.25 cpm Nov 16-19
$1086 ai 4.29 cpm Nov 30-Dec 3
$1156 ai 4.57 cpm Oct 5-8, 19-22
Prices from Google.com/flights
Your laugh for today along with your flight info
Subject: Airline Flight
Shortly after a British Airways flight had reached its cruising altitude, the captain announced: "Ladies and Gentlemen,
this is your captain. Welcome to Flight 293, non-stop from London Heathrow to New York. The weather ahead is good,so we should have a smooth uneventful flight. So, sit back, relax, and....OH OH
Silence followed.
Some moments later, the captain came back on the intercom. "Ladies and Gentlemen, I’m sorry if I scared you. While I was talking to you, a flight attendant accidentally spilled coffee in my lap. You should see the front of my pants!"
From the back of the plane, an Irish passenger yelled.......
You should see the back of mine!
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If you have comments or better prices, please post, thanks. Happy Travels! Cheers! Have a Super Day!
$996 ai 3.93 cpm Oct 26-29,Nov 2-5, 9-12, 23-26 BEST PRICE
$1076 ai 4.25 cpm Nov 16-19
$1086 ai 4.29 cpm Nov 30-Dec 3
$1156 ai 4.57 cpm Oct 5-8, 19-22
Prices from Google.com/flights
Your laugh for today along with your flight info
Subject: Airline Flight
Shortly after a British Airways flight had reached its cruising altitude, the captain announced: "Ladies and Gentlemen,
this is your captain. Welcome to Flight 293, non-stop from London Heathrow to New York. The weather ahead is good,so we should have a smooth uneventful flight. So, sit back, relax, and....OH OH
Silence followed.
Some moments later, the captain came back on the intercom. "Ladies and Gentlemen, I’m sorry if I scared you. While I was talking to you, a flight attendant accidentally spilled coffee in my lap. You should see the front of my pants!"
From the back of the plane, an Irish passenger yelled.......
You should see the back of mine!
-------
If you have comments or better prices, please post, thanks. Happy Travels! Cheers! Have a Super Day!
Last edited by Csfing1; Apr 7, 2015 at 1:50 pm Reason: Add information
#880
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares Apr 9 LAX Dep
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$958 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 BEST FARE
Other dates higher, fares from SMF usually $150 or more higher
Happy Travels! Have a Great Day! Cheers! ^
$958 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 BEST FARE
Other dates higher, fares from SMF usually $150 or more higher
Happy Travels! Have a Great Day! Cheers! ^
#881
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares Apr 12 LAX dep Same as Apr 9
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$958 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 BEST FARE
Other dates higher, fares fron Google.com/flights
Happy Travels! Cheers! Please post comments or lower fares. Have a Super Week! Thanks!
$958 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 BEST FARE
Other dates higher, fares fron Google.com/flights
Happy Travels! Cheers! Please post comments or lower fares. Have a Super Week! Thanks!
#882
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Prices on April 16 LAX and SFO Dep
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$958 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 BEST FARE
$1045 ai 4.16 cpm Oct 5-8, 19-22
$1063 ai 4.24 cpm Oct 12-15
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$996 ai 3.93 cpm Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19 BEST FARE
$1009 ai 3.99 cpm Oct 26-29
$1076 ai 4.25 cpm Oct 19-22, Nov 23-26
$1086 ai 4.29 cpm Oct 12-15
$1156 ai 4.57 cpm Oct 5-8
Dates not given higher, fares from Google.com/flights
Happy Travels! If you get better prices please post along with any comments. Have a great weekend! Cheers!
$958 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 26-29, Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19, 23-26 BEST FARE
$1045 ai 4.16 cpm Oct 5-8, 19-22
$1063 ai 4.24 cpm Oct 12-15
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$996 ai 3.93 cpm Nov 2-5, 9-12, 16-19 BEST FARE
$1009 ai 3.99 cpm Oct 26-29
$1076 ai 4.25 cpm Oct 19-22, Nov 23-26
$1086 ai 4.29 cpm Oct 12-15
$1156 ai 4.57 cpm Oct 5-8
Dates not given higher, fares from Google.com/flights
Happy Travels! If you get better prices please post along with any comments. Have a great weekend! Cheers!
#883
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: DL DM, UA, AA EXP, AS MVP75K GOLD, HHonors Diamond, BW Diamond, SPG Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 382
Thank you for maintaining this: I am sure one of these is in mid last/half of 2015 plans... The SJC-SIN-CGK-SIN-LAX-SJC (17,512 @ 2.3CPM) was a late night snack for me last evening.
#884
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
[QUOTE=John DELTA;24677838]Thank you for maintaining this: I am sure one of these is in mid last/half of 2015 plans... The SJC-SIN-CGK-SIN-LAX-SJC (17,512 @ 2.3CPM) was a late night snack for me last evening. [/QUOTE]
Great price! Did you buy or finish your trip last night? Correct all flights are in 2015. For anyone interested Costco is selling Bose Quiet Comfort 15 headphones for $239.99 with free shipping at Costco.com. Have never seen at that price before. I use and like them very much! Wouldn't travel without them!
Happy Travels! Have a great weekend! Please post comments and lower fares! Thanks for reading and noticing! Cheers!
Great price! Did you buy or finish your trip last night? Correct all flights are in 2015. For anyone interested Costco is selling Bose Quiet Comfort 15 headphones for $239.99 with free shipping at Costco.com. Have never seen at that price before. I use and like them very much! Wouldn't travel without them!
Happy Travels! Have a great weekend! Please post comments and lower fares! Thanks for reading and noticing! Cheers!
Last edited by Csfing1; Apr 17, 2015 at 10:23 am Reason: Add information
#885
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Programs: Delta Diamond, Delta 2MM, HHonors Gold, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 693
Not a great deal but booked MR over Labor day weekend starting with 9/3 redeye to JFK.
$1080 through JFK both ways but only miss one day of work (Friday before holiday weekend). Through MSP on the OB was about $40 less.
$1080 through JFK both ways but only miss one day of work (Friday before holiday weekend). Through MSP on the OB was about $40 less.