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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Apr 6, 2017, 5:55 pm
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Found some LAX-ATL-NRT-SIN and back in early September for around 900 today, not finding anything lower.
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 1:25 am
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Very few dates from Sep-Dec below $1000 with a few around $900. Will just have to wait until prices come down but will continue to check on a weekly basis and lowest LAX SIN LAX price in early Sep is $800+ high makes current prices too high for a MR. Keep checking, if you get a good price, please post with dates.
Happy Travels, post low prices and have a great week! Blessings to all. Keep posting, trip reports and low prices if you find any!
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 9:23 am
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Found some JFK-ATL/DTW-NRT-SIN for $700 for those in the east coast. Thinking on doing Nov 20-30
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 8:00 pm
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Im flying EWR-DTW-NRT-SIN on Wednesday - anyone else making the trip to Singapore that April 12th?
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Old Apr 13, 2017, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Youngmiler
Im flying EWR-DTW-NRT-SIN on Wednesday - anyone else making the trip to Singapore that April 12th?
Please give us a report of how your trip goes and if you meet any other FT MRers. Looking forward to my next trip SMF LAX DTW AMS DEL ATQ in less than 2 weeks, not a MR but for work but will get about 19,000 MQM. Enjoy your trip, safe and happy travels and be glad you aren't on UA! Blessings! ^
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Old Apr 16, 2017, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by viamarina
Found some LAX-ATL-NRT-SIN and back in early September for around 900 today, not finding anything lower.
Open jaw NYC-SIN/SHA-NYC can be had for ~$600, compared to NYC-SIN rt at ~$700 and NYC-SHA rt at ~$800.
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Old Apr 17, 2017, 1:41 pm
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Noob questions..

What's the best way to go about searching for these fares? Using ITA, do you save off a basic search and just adjust the dates?

I've never done a MR and I'm hub captive in MSP, but I wouldn't mind doing this MR as I like the fact it's a quick turn around.

Thanks in advance...
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Old Apr 17, 2017, 1:50 pm
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Originally Posted by shishghate
Noob questions..

What's the best way to go about searching for these fares? Using ITA, do you save off a basic search and just adjust the dates?

I've never done a MR and I'm hub captive in MSP, but I wouldn't mind doing this MR as I like the fact it's a quick turn around.

Thanks in advance...
Yeah if you have a date range in mind, use ITA to search a month calendar, put in simple request like NYC-SIN or LAX-SIN to gauge what city is best to start and have best fare, otherwise the search might time out
Then try to narrow down to a couple starting cities and fine tune the date/routing
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Old Apr 17, 2017, 2:59 pm
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There's also sample ITA advanced codes and a link to screenshots in the wiki at the top of the thread, if you want to give that a try.
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Old Apr 18, 2017, 1:13 pm
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There's also sample ITA advanced codes and a link to screenshots in the wiki at the top of the thread, if you want to give that a try.
Thanks for the info.. Looks like ITA has a fairly simple API that one could easily write some search queries against. And with 50 free queries a day, I could see automating this... hmm...
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 8:25 am
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"United Air Lines New Mottos"

Am glad I fly Delta - received from one of my friends so thot I would share. My disclaimer. It is recognized that not all will consider this humor but if you do, Laughter is the best medicine. Have a chuckle and enjoy your day and Happy Travels!

“Drag and Drop”

“We put the hospital in hospitality”
“Board as a doctor, leave as a patient”
“Our prices can’t be beaten, but our passengers can”
“We have First Class, Business Class and No Class”
“Not enough seating, prepare for a beating”
“We treat you like we treat your luggage”
“We beat the customer. Not the competition”
“And you thought leg room was an issue”
“Where voluntary is mandatory”
“Fight or flight. We decide”
“Now offering one free carry off”
“Beating random customers since 2017”
“If our staff needs a seat, we’ll drag you by your feet”
“A bloody good airline”
“Bump and thump”
“Fly united, love unrequited"

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Old Apr 25, 2017, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
Am glad I fly Delta - received from one of my friends so thot I would share. My disclaimer. It is recognized that not all will consider this humor but if you do, Laughter is the best medicine. Have a chuckle and enjoy your day and Happy Travels!

“Drag and Drop”

“We put the hospital in hospitality”
“Board as a doctor, leave as a patient”
“Our prices can’t be beaten, but our passengers can”
“We have First Class, Business Class and No Class”
“Not enough seating, prepare for a beating”
“We treat you like we treat your luggage”
“We beat the customer. Not the competition”
“And you thought leg room was an issue”
“Where voluntary is mandatory”
“Fight or flight. We decide”
“Now offering one free carry off”
“Beating random customers since 2017”
“If our staff needs a seat, we’ll drag you by your feet”
“A bloody good airline”
“Bump and thump”
“Fly united, love unrequited"
Lol!
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Old Apr 25, 2017, 5:13 pm
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I have 24 hrs in Singapore during my next MR in June. Any recommendations on what to see in Singapore?
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Old Apr 25, 2017, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by McMichaelNY
I have 24 hrs in Singapore during my next MR in June. Any recommendations on what to see in Singapore?
Check out the "Things to do in SIN" section of the wiki, located at the top of the thread for some suggestions/links. Have a great trip, and let us know how it goes!
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Old Apr 26, 2017, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by shishghate
Noob questions..

I've never done a MR and I'm hub captive in MSP, but I wouldn't mind doing this MR as I like the fact it's a quick turn around.

Thanks in advance...
Will be doing this route to get to BKK for a conference in June:
LAS-ATL-DTW-NRT-SIN return. Separate ticket to BKK.
This one is soooo easy as compared to what I just finished:

PDX-SEA-SFO-AMS-DUB-AMS-DUS-AMS-BOS-ATL-SCL-ATL-BOS-AMS-DUB-PDX and got stuck on the outbound overnight in ATL in the middle of the meltdown in an unbelievable chaos.
Hence my chosen name - it's crazy what we'll do to keep our all important status
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