Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
Last edit by: Zorak
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If you have done this trip please help improve the wiki!
Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?
Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN
FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.How do I search for dates/prices?
One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
- outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
- inbound: dl+ nrt dtw
NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box
See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)
You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)
I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
- you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
- if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
- for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
- call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover
Do I need a visa?
No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.
What are the best seats?
Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
- one vote for the bulkhead in C+
- DL forum omnibus C+ thread: FAQ: Comfort+ Seating
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread
Will there be wifi on the international legs?
DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.
777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked
Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.
FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)
Other related threads:
Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)
Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet
SIN airport facilities
If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)
Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels
Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.
FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges
Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.
There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.
NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.
Things to do in SIN
In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.
SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.
Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9
Things to do on a long connection through NRT:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html
Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread
There is free wifi in NRT.
Returning to the US
Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)
You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.
Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.
Relevant FT threads:
- CLEAR - worthwhile use of $179? in theTrusted Travelers Forum
- DL-specific thread in the DL Forum
Returning via ATL:
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread
CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.
For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.
(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)
Returning via DTW:
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread
When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.
The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.
Duty Free Liquids
This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:
http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule
FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight
If you have any experience with this, please share!
IRROPS handling:
Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html
Trip Reports/Tips:
2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb
2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep
2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2
2013: Oct
[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)
Mar 6, 2017, 10:49 pm
#1891
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Programs: Delta DM / 1M, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC, Emerald Club Exec
Posts: 500
Here's my March trip report. SAN-JFK-DTW-NRT-SIN-NRT-DTW-SAN (+ Positioning flights from MSP to SAN)
I booked this run to start and end in San Diego so I could spend a week in one of my favorite cities for my birthday before returning home to MN. I also used GUC's as I wanted to travel in the upper deck of a 747 before they're gone from Delta. This was a first for me.
Due to the planned time in SAN, I had to check a bag. I'd originally planned to leave the bag in SAN (outbound) with a luggage storage company and pick it up on the return. However, they are closed for 3 weeks. So, I just checked the bag through to Singapore.
All of my international legs cleared before I started the trip so that was awesome. The San Diego to JFK leg cleared at the gate. Actually, due to a system issue, I was told that first was full. I boarded the plane and received the upgrade when an agent came on board and moved me from my C+ seat to First. A guy in my row so kindly offered to take the upgrade for me. I couldn't let him make that sacrifice so I gathered my things and moved.
The international legs on the 747 were absolutely wonderful. I had seats 75A outbound and 75K return. The pilots came out and gave an announcement to just the upper deck before take off. One of them then went around, said a personal hello to each of us and handed out tootsie rolls. The flight attendants were also wonderful. I told one of them I'd used upgrades just so I could fly on the upper deck and she hugged me. They were incredibly attentive and operated with such a personal touch.
After getting to SIN, I actually didn't mind going through customs to get my bag. My passport was stamped on my birthday so that was cool (yes, I know that sounds weird). After sitting for so long, walking around felt good and I saw more of the airport than I had before. I picked up my bag and went over to The Haven lounge (landside) in Terminal 3 for a shower. Priority Pass really has come in handy a few times. Note that they also had a menu one could order a meal from, but I passed on that. Instead, I used their free Wi-Fi and caught up on some email. Once check-in opened, I got my boarding pass and handed off my luggage. The agent at the check in desk noted my seats and started talking about the retirement of the 747's. It was a nice conversation. Then I headed to the dnata lounge to wait until boarding started.
The flights home were uneventful. I mentioned to the purser on the SIN - NRT leg that it was my birthday. It seemed that every time I looked up, he'd placed another glass of champagne at my seat. No worries. I stopped before I became one of 'those passengers' On the next flight, I wanted to stay awake as much as possible to enjoy the ride but apparently, I actually needed to sleep.
By the time I got back to the US it was still my birthday and I was able to celebrate in a favorite city.
That's it!
I booked this run to start and end in San Diego so I could spend a week in one of my favorite cities for my birthday before returning home to MN. I also used GUC's as I wanted to travel in the upper deck of a 747 before they're gone from Delta. This was a first for me.
Due to the planned time in SAN, I had to check a bag. I'd originally planned to leave the bag in SAN (outbound) with a luggage storage company and pick it up on the return. However, they are closed for 3 weeks. So, I just checked the bag through to Singapore.
All of my international legs cleared before I started the trip so that was awesome. The San Diego to JFK leg cleared at the gate. Actually, due to a system issue, I was told that first was full. I boarded the plane and received the upgrade when an agent came on board and moved me from my C+ seat to First. A guy in my row so kindly offered to take the upgrade for me. I couldn't let him make that sacrifice so I gathered my things and moved.
The international legs on the 747 were absolutely wonderful. I had seats 75A outbound and 75K return. The pilots came out and gave an announcement to just the upper deck before take off. One of them then went around, said a personal hello to each of us and handed out tootsie rolls. The flight attendants were also wonderful. I told one of them I'd used upgrades just so I could fly on the upper deck and she hugged me. They were incredibly attentive and operated with such a personal touch.
After getting to SIN, I actually didn't mind going through customs to get my bag. My passport was stamped on my birthday so that was cool (yes, I know that sounds weird). After sitting for so long, walking around felt good and I saw more of the airport than I had before. I picked up my bag and went over to The Haven lounge (landside) in Terminal 3 for a shower. Priority Pass really has come in handy a few times. Note that they also had a menu one could order a meal from, but I passed on that. Instead, I used their free Wi-Fi and caught up on some email. Once check-in opened, I got my boarding pass and handed off my luggage. The agent at the check in desk noted my seats and started talking about the retirement of the 747's. It was a nice conversation. Then I headed to the dnata lounge to wait until boarding started.
The flights home were uneventful. I mentioned to the purser on the SIN - NRT leg that it was my birthday. It seemed that every time I looked up, he'd placed another glass of champagne at my seat. No worries. I stopped before I became one of 'those passengers'
On the next flight, I wanted to stay awake as much as possible to enjoy the ride but apparently, I actually needed to sleep.By the time I got back to the US it was still my birthday and I was able to celebrate in a favorite city.
That's it!
Last edited by nichelle; Mar 7, 2017 at 9:45 am
Mar 7, 2017, 1:00 am
#1892
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: Delta Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 34
Here's my March trip report. SAN-JFK-DTW-NRT-SIN-DRT-DTW-SAN (+ Positioning flights from MSP to SAN)
I booked this run to start and end in San Diego so I could spend a week in one of my favorite cities for my birthday before returning home to MN. I also used GUC's as I wanted to travel in the upper deck of a 747 before they're gone from Delta. This was a first for me.
Due to the planned time in SAN, I had to check a bag. I'd originally planned to leave the bag in SAN (outbound) with a luggage storage company and pick it up on the return. However, they are closed for 3 weeks. So, I just checked the bag through to Singapore.
All of my international legs cleared before I started the trip so that was awesome. The San Diego to JFK leg cleared at the gate. Actually, due to a system issue, I was told that first was full. I boarded the plane and received the upgrade when an agent came on board and moved me from my C+ seat to First. A guy in my row so kindly offered to take the upgrade for me. I couldn't let him make that sacrifice so I gathered my things and moved.
The international legs on the 747 were absolutely wonderful. I had seats 75A outbound and 75K return. The pilots came out and gave an announcement to just the upper deck before take off. One of them then went around, said a personal hello to each of us and handed out tootsie rolls. The flight attendants were also wonderful. I told one of them I'd used upgrades just so I could fly on the upper deck and she hugged me. They were incredibly attentive and operated with such a personal touch.
After getting to SIN, I actually didn't mind going through customs to get my bag. My passport was stamped on my birthday so that was cool (yes, I know that sounds weird). After sitting for so long, walking around felt good and I saw more of the airport than I had before. I picked up my bag and went over to The Haven lounge (landside) in Terminal 3 for a shower. Priority Pass really has come in handy a few times. Note that they also had a menu one could order a meal from, but I passed on that. Instead, I used their free Wi-Fi and caught up on some email. Once check-in opened, I got my boarding pass and handed off my luggage. The agent at the check in desk noted my seats and started talking about the retirement of the 747's. It was a nice conversation. Then I headed to the dnata lounge to wait until boarding started.
The flights home were uneventful. I mentioned to the purser on the SIN - NRT leg that it was my birthday. It seemed that every time I looked up, he'd placed another glass of champagne at my seat. No worries. I stopped before I became one of 'those passengers' On the next flight, I wanted to stay awake as much as possible to enjoy the ride but apparently, I actually needed to sleep.
By the time I got back to the US it was still my birthday and I was able to celebrate in a favorite city.
That's it!
I booked this run to start and end in San Diego so I could spend a week in one of my favorite cities for my birthday before returning home to MN. I also used GUC's as I wanted to travel in the upper deck of a 747 before they're gone from Delta. This was a first for me.
Due to the planned time in SAN, I had to check a bag. I'd originally planned to leave the bag in SAN (outbound) with a luggage storage company and pick it up on the return. However, they are closed for 3 weeks. So, I just checked the bag through to Singapore.
All of my international legs cleared before I started the trip so that was awesome. The San Diego to JFK leg cleared at the gate. Actually, due to a system issue, I was told that first was full. I boarded the plane and received the upgrade when an agent came on board and moved me from my C+ seat to First. A guy in my row so kindly offered to take the upgrade for me. I couldn't let him make that sacrifice so I gathered my things and moved.
The international legs on the 747 were absolutely wonderful. I had seats 75A outbound and 75K return. The pilots came out and gave an announcement to just the upper deck before take off. One of them then went around, said a personal hello to each of us and handed out tootsie rolls. The flight attendants were also wonderful. I told one of them I'd used upgrades just so I could fly on the upper deck and she hugged me. They were incredibly attentive and operated with such a personal touch.
After getting to SIN, I actually didn't mind going through customs to get my bag. My passport was stamped on my birthday so that was cool (yes, I know that sounds weird). After sitting for so long, walking around felt good and I saw more of the airport than I had before. I picked up my bag and went over to The Haven lounge (landside) in Terminal 3 for a shower. Priority Pass really has come in handy a few times. Note that they also had a menu one could order a meal from, but I passed on that. Instead, I used their free Wi-Fi and caught up on some email. Once check-in opened, I got my boarding pass and handed off my luggage. The agent at the check in desk noted my seats and started talking about the retirement of the 747's. It was a nice conversation. Then I headed to the dnata lounge to wait until boarding started.
The flights home were uneventful. I mentioned to the purser on the SIN - NRT leg that it was my birthday. It seemed that every time I looked up, he'd placed another glass of champagne at my seat. No worries. I stopped before I became one of 'those passengers'
On the next flight, I wanted to stay awake as much as possible to enjoy the ride but apparently, I actually needed to sleep.By the time I got back to the US it was still my birthday and I was able to celebrate in a favorite city.
That's it!
Mar 8, 2017, 11:21 am
#1896
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: Delta Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 34
Mar 9, 2017, 4:34 pm
#1897
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: DL DM, UA, AA EXP, AS MVP75K GOLD, HHonors Diamond, BW Diamond, SPG Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 382
Mar 9, 2017, 4:36 pm
#1898
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Programs: Delta DM / 1M, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC, Emerald Club Exec
Posts: 500
Mar 14, 2017, 1:13 am
#1899
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares LAX dep Mar 13, 2017
Not many good fares tonight LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAS 24,248 MQM
$753 au 3.11 cpm Oct 23-26
$757 ai 3.12 cpm Sep 4-7
$818 ai 3.37 cpm Oct 30-Nov 2
$825 ai 3.41 cpm Sep 18-21, Nov 6-9
Other dates higher prices. Disclaimer - some fares could be E-class fares which can't be upgraded. Prices from Google.com/flights
Thanks Nichelle for posting your trip report. Have a great week!
$753 au 3.11 cpm Oct 23-26
$757 ai 3.12 cpm Sep 4-7
$818 ai 3.37 cpm Oct 30-Nov 2
$825 ai 3.41 cpm Sep 18-21, Nov 6-9
Other dates higher prices. Disclaimer - some fares could be E-class fares which can't be upgraded. Prices from Google.com/flights
Thanks Nichelle for posting your trip report. Have a great week!
Mar 14, 2017, 9:03 am
#1900
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: MSP
Programs: DL DM, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 610
$841 for anyone looking to spend a few days in SIN. Seems to be the lowest I can find to stay for 4+ days... https://goo.gl/flights/hVfY Sep 5-12
Mar 15, 2017, 11:14 pm
#1901
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
CLEAR 3 mo free trial
If any reader has an airport that uses CLEAR e.g. ATL JFK LGA DTW and others and would like to try for 3 mo, at no cost to you. Send me a PM with your email and I will be happy to forward to you an email which will authorize you to have a 3 month free trial. If you don't want to pay you must be sure to cancel before your 3 months is up. If you are DM it is free. There is an annual charge but if you are not DM. Works best if you also have PreChek. It is nice as you don't have to show your ID to enter TSA. My opinion - if you travel a lot and use airports where it is available it is very convenient and saves time. Have a great day, Keep posting your comments and questions and Trip Reports. Prices should come down in Aug and Sep for Sep to early Dec MR. If anyone gets a good price please post! Happy Travels and Blessings to all! 🙂 🙂 Keep posting! Will probably do MR to SIN combined with work in Sep when the price is right. Other trips for work India in May and U.K. In June
🙂 🙂 Keep posting! Will probably do MR to SIN combined with work in Sep when the price is right. Other trips for work India in May and U.K. In June
Mar 16, 2017, 12:30 am
#1902
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,940
If any reader has an airport that uses CLEAR e.g. ATL JFK LGA DTW and others and would like to try for 3 mo, at no cost to you. Send me a PM with your email and I will be happy to forward to you an email which will authorize you to have a 3 month free trial. If you don't want to pay you must be sure to cancel before your 3 months is up.
It doesn't appear that the 4-month trial link is working anymore.
This is a 3-month free trial... https://enroll.clearme.com/p/DAYLIGHT3
This is a 3-month free trial... https://enroll.clearme.com/p/DAYLIGHT3
Mar 16, 2017, 1:05 am
#1903
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Thanks Zorak
Happy Travels! Blessings to all!
Mar 16, 2017, 6:48 pm
#1905
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Programs: Delta DM / 1M, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC, Emerald Club Exec
Posts: 500
There are good prices out of Vegas for the month of May for quick turns.
Example for 5/10 departure:
LAS/ATL/DTW/NRT/SIN/NRT/PDX/MSP/LAS
Price: $699
There are quite a few different routes with multiple departure dates around $700
Example for 5/10 departure:
LAS/ATL/DTW/NRT/SIN/NRT/PDX/MSP/LAS
Price: $699
There are quite a few different routes with multiple departure dates around $700