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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

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2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Jun 27, 2017, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by kxc262
Did a run back around mid-May. Departed on Sat - SFO-SLC-LAS for repositioning in LAS. Then LAS-ATL-DTW-NRT-SIN, 2 days in SIN, then SIN-NRT-DTW-LAS. LAS-SJC.

Used a GUC but was waitlisted the wholeway for the most part. GUC cleared at gate. Got 13 middle on 747. It was a comfortable seat because it was very private to be in the last row, despite having no window view. A bit of a disappointment in this seat though because its the last seat to get meal orders and most good choice are gone by then. NRT-SIN - 767 got cleared at the gate as well and stuck in the middle. Uneventful trip IMO. All full flights with biz travelers.

Things of interest - when I departed SIN, customs directed me to use the automated clearance system. I am not signed up for the system at all, but I had no issues with it.

Not as tiring this time compared to my SIN run last Sept in all economy.
Thanks for taking the time to give us a report and we are glad that you got your UG even tho it was at the gate. Better late than never. DL has a strange way of letting you know your GUC have cleared, you get a msg from DAL and the subject is "Your Flight Receipt" with your name and the date of your flight and when you read the msg which is your itinerary check your seats and see if you have gone from C+ to Delta One and if yes, you now have your UG and you can pick your seat and request your UG for the other shorter legs and see if they clear before the gate! So have now requested UG for NRT SIN SIN NRT legs as well as IAH DTW and ATL IAH legs. Flt from IAH ORD MDW to SIN still have lowest prices for MR. Did price one for Aug 23-29 and 23-30 yesterday and price started at $905 day earlier and than went to $870 in AM and down to $770 by late afternoon thru ATL with 21,734 MQM and final cost of 3.4 cpm which isn't too bad but not as good as Sep 23-30 which was $582.46 - 2.68 cpm which is very good but not as good as one we missed out on at <2 cpm which was gone within 4 hrs when I checked later. Still looking for good price for Dec trip. This am is $695.96 - 3.38 cpm which is probably as good as I will get for my dates so I may have to commit. DTW NRT legs are in A359 or 350-900 a new plane and C+ is now called DPS for Delta Premium Select. ATL NRT is 777-200 so some other things to consider. Thru DTW both ways gives only 19,450 MQM vs 21,734 MQM thru ATL both ways. Items for consideration, new plane 350-900 or MQM. Life is full of choices. Have a Great Week and Happy Travels - keep comments, questions, trip reports and lower prices coming! Thx to all readers and posters!
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Old Jun 29, 2017, 1:27 am
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Smile Fares Jun 28 from IAH

Basically fares are fairly good in first 3 weeks of Sep and early Oct and Nov
Range from $706.26 - $718.14 Usually lower thru DTW out and back but not always. MQM varies thru DTW has lowest MQM refer to earlier message for MQM. Can spend 1 or 2 nights in SIN with some of fares.

$706.26 Sep 4-6, 5-7, 6-8, 10-12, 11-13, 18-20, 25-27, Oct 1-3, 16-18, 23-26
$711.86 Sep 3-6, 4-7, 4-8, 5-8, 10-13, 10-14, 18-21, 17-20, Oct 2-5, 16-19, 23-26
$718.14 Sep 4-9, 5-9, 6-9, 3-5
$726.86 Sep 25-28, Nov 29-Dec 13
$736.26 Dec 4-6

Fares from DL.com, can try other dates during those weeks if you want a weekend for your MR and see what you get. If you are comfortable with fare get it and don't wait as it may change. For Aug 23-29 we got fare of $770 yesterday and last night it was about $300 more so we are glad we committed at $770 as we were committed to those dates and couldn't wait till later when prices were lower. Most of flt thru DTW will be 744 thru Sep and sometime after that will switch to A350. Flights from ATL are usually 777-200 or 772. A350 will be new plane for DL. Have a great week and Happy Travels!
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Old Jun 29, 2017, 10:03 am
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Maybe Next Year

I was fearful that one of these MRs was in my future this year...but it appears one more trip to AMS for work, and a planned trip to CHC on VA will put me comfortably close to the PM barrier that I will make it.

Maybe next year a SIN run will be on my calendar.
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Old Jun 29, 2017, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by PV_Premier
I was fearful that one of these MRs was in my future this year...but it appears one more trip to AMS for work, and a planned trip to CHC on VA will put me comfortably close to the PM barrier that I will make it.

Maybe next year a SIN run will be on my calendar.
there's always DM!
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 1:36 am
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Smile Fares July 2 from IAH

Fares from IAH SIN still better today than SFO and LAX 3
IAH DTW/ATL NRT SIN NRT DTW/ATL IAH 19,450-21,734 with 19,450 thru DTW out and back and 21,734 thru ATL out and back. cpm from 3.556 - 3.98
Fares from DL.com Fares are usually Mon out and Wed or Thr back for most weeks from Sep thru first weeks of Nov
$773.96 - $790.96 Sep 4-6, 9-11, 11-13, 11-14, 13-20, 18-20, 19--21, 25-27, 25-28, Oct 2-4, 2-5, 9-12, 16-18, 16-19, 23-25, 23-26, 30-Nov 2, 6-8, 6-9, 13-16, 19-21
$813.56 20,592 MQM 3.95 cpm Dec 4-7
$845.96 20,592 MQM 4.11 cpm Dec 4-6
Have a great week, please post lower fares, question, comments or trip reports!
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 8:55 am
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Thank you for posting. Looks like my wish will never be fulfilled - MR travel starting Thursday and ending Sunday from DFW or ATL. I don't want to take off during my work days for MR. I would prefer at-least 2 MR this year.


Originally Posted by Csfing1
Fares from IAH SIN still better today than SFO and LAX 3
IAH DTW/ATL NRT SIN NRT DTW/ATL IAH 19,450-21,734 with 19,450 thru DTW out and back and 21,734 thru ATL out and back. cpm from 3.556 - 3.98
Fares from DL.com Fares are usually Mon out and Wed or Thr back for most weeks from Sep thru first weeks of Nov
$773.96 - $790.96 Sep 4-6, 9-11, 11-13, 11-14, 13-20, 18-20, 19--21, 25-27, 25-28, Oct 2-4, 2-5, 9-12, 16-18, 16-19, 23-25, 23-26, 30-Nov 2, 6-8, 6-9, 13-16, 19-21
$813.56 20,592 MQM 3.95 cpm Dec 4-7
$845.96 20,592 MQM 4.11 cpm Dec 4-6
Have a great week, please post lower fares, question, comments or trip reports!

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Old Jul 3, 2017, 10:10 am
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Thu-Sun might be available just at (sometimes quite slightly) higher prices. It's worth checking.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
$892 / LAX-ATL-DTW-NRT-SIN-NRT-DTW-SFO / 24,061 MQMs
this is what I need exactly, (based in LAX), however Im unable to reconstruct on Delta, any tips?
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Originally Posted by Love_Travel
Thank you for posting. Looks like my wish will never be fulfilled - MR travel starting Thursday and ending Sunday from DFW or ATL. I don't want to take off during my work days for MR. I would prefer at-least 2 MR this year.
DAL-ATL-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL-DAL

$992

Thursday-Sun
https://goo.gl/flights/kSF6
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by calvn911
this is what I need exactly, (based in LAX), however Im unable to reconstruct on Delta, any tips?
The thread wiki has some good suggestions. More importantly, the post you are referencing is a couple of weeks old, and the prices change pretty frequently.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Love_Travel
Thank you for posting. Looks like my wish will never be fulfilled - MR travel starting Thursday and ending Sunday from DFW or ATL. I don't want to take off during my work days for MR. I would prefer at-least 2 MR this year.
Just checked fares tonight from DFW and IAH and usually IAH is about $150 less
DFW ATL/DTW NRT SIN NRT ATL/DTW DFW
$985.96 20,634 MQM Sep 7-9, 14-16
$1035.96 21,818 MQM Sep 15-17, 22-24

IAH
$835.96 20,592 MQM Sep 15-17 IAH ATL NRT SIN NRT DFW IAH
$868.96 20,592 MQM Sep 22-24 same as above

Prices from DL.com Just put in for RT IAH SIN or DFW SIN and choose the fare with lowest price, sometimes you will go out thru ATL and ret DTW, just pick lowest fares. You can try other dates - that run can be 2 days as listed but you will have to add your positioning flight from wherever you are. If you have other questions send me a PM with your phone number and I will help you. Blessings, have a great day and Happy July 4, be thankful for our troops and pray for the safety, because of their sacrifice we have our freedom!
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Old Jul 4, 2017, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by angra
The thread wiki has some good suggestions. More importantly, the post you are referencing is a couple of weeks old, and the prices change pretty frequently.
Thank you, I went back and re-read everything, did the route and booked lax-ind-dtw-nrt-sin-nrt-dtw-lax, $880 23,735 MQM.
thank you guys.
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Thank you for suggestions. Looks interesting
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Old Jul 11, 2017, 5:11 pm
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Smile Fares July 11

IAH DTW/ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL/DTW IAH
$717.76 Sep 4-6, 11-13, 18-20, 25-27, Oct 2-4
$723.36 Sep 4-7, 11-14, 18-21, 25-28
$740.36 Sep 4-8, 4-9
Will add more fares later.
Prices good now.[B]

LABOR DAY WEEKEND
$826.76 19,450 MQM 4.25 cpm Sep 2-4 thru DTW outbound and inbound
$832.36 19,450 MQM 4.25 cpm Sep 1-4

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Out of MDW: $699 airfare on Labor Day weekend that's perfect for a status-run. https://goo.gl/flights/aKGp
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