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Notes: All prices are in US Dollars and are exclusive of taxes unless specified (by ++)

Tax Information
• 10% Service Charge (levied by resort. For info on this and how it's distributed, see this post)
• 16% T-GST (Tourist Goods & Services Tax, levied by the Maldivian government, current as of Jan 1, 2023). Old 2022 rate was 12%.
• Total tax is 27.2%, not 26% as one would think. Example; $100 + 10% = $110, then add 16% on to $110 for a total of $127.20.
• Tip: To work out prices before the 27.2% taxes, multiply by 0.7862, i.e; 127.2 * 0.7862 = 100
• A Green Tax of $6pp/pn (levied by the Maldivian government) has been introduced starting from 1 November 2015. Points/Redemption bookings are exempt from the tax for up to two guests per room

Booking with points
• Bookings must be cancelled 30 days prior in order to avoid one full night's charge at BAR. (some days cancellation period is 14 days check your reservation details for the exact applicable cancellation policy)
• Website and phone agents state that a cash deposit equivalent to the BAR per night will be taken when booking stays with points. This is an error. NO CASH DEPOSIT IS TAKEN WHEN MAKING A POINTS BOOKING
• Free night certificate: The phone agent states that a cash deposit equivalent to the BAR per night will be taken when booking your free night. This is an error. NO CASH DEPOSIT IS TAKEN WHEN USING YOUR FREE NIGHT CERTIFICATE
This hotel is extremely popular. Rooms are released to be booked with points about 1 year in advance. It seems to be a partially manual process so it's not an exact science. After being released those rooms get booked within a matter of minutes. If you have specific dates you want you need to book them one at a time a year in advance, or risk booking last minute. Yes that makes it hard to use the 5th night free. You can book 5 individual nights and cancel them all to rebook getting the 5th night free, but there's only about a 50% chance the rooms go back into inventory so it's risky. There is no secret, just check Hilton.com all the time. If you don't want to do that, someone else will and they'll get the rooms.

Transfers To and From Resort
• Waldorf Astoria Ithaafushi is located in South Malé Atoll, 23km southwest of Malé and Velana International Airport [MLE] (also known as Malé International Airport, previously known as Ibrahim Nasir International Airport)
• Transfer experience includes personal service for your group after luggage pick-up until arrival on the yacht; yacht includes dedicated server for champagne, non-alcoholic beverages, and light snacks. Departure experience on the yacht is the same, and your group be personally escorted through airline check-in until airport security.
• Pricing in 2021 is $650++, 2020 is $600++ per person, and 2019 it was $350++ per person per way ($1724.80 return inclusive of taxes for 2 passengers). The price for kids 5 and under is complimentary while kids 6-11 years old are charged $300++ per person. If the yacht is not available, a speedboat will be provided by the resort. If this happens, you may be refunded the yacht transfer fee.
• Pricing for 2022 will increase to $730++ for adults and $365++ children 6-12, see website by clicking here.
• Pricing for 2023 will increase to $780++ for adults ($995.28 nett) and $390++ for children 6-12
• The resort offers the ability to redeem Hilton Honors points for your transfer, .strValue1=all&promoGroupList[1].strValue1=en_US&qt[0].type=fieldsearch&qt[0].name=panname_country_s&qt[0].value1=MDV&rc=24&sort=timeleft_asc]click here.
• See this post for a detailed review of the yacht transfer (Courtesy of jphripjah)
• Third party transfers are not permitted by the resort.
• Transfer to / from Conrad Maldives Rangali Island: A private seaplane transfer from the Waldorf to the Conrad, taking approximately 25 minutes, is approximately USD 8,125++. Most guests travel between the resort booking the standard round trip seaplane from Male to Rangali and then the Yacht transfer round trip from Male to Waldorf.

Time
Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi time has been set one hour ahead of Male’ time to give an extra hour of daylight each day. For ease, set phone or Dhaka Sri Lanka time zone.

Resort Information / Spa / Activities
• WA Ithaafushi is made up of three islands (95% man-made)
• There are 2 standalone OWVs (Over Water Villas) and 121 villas in total
• Click here (Hilton's website) or here (dedicated website) to visit the resort on the web
• The kids club (one of the biggest in the Maldives) is for children between 4 to 11 years. Click here for detailed information and here for the schedule. Click here, here and here for basic reviews and comprehensive sets of pictures (All courtesy of Traveler Dave)
• See this and this post for info on the Christmas Eve and New Years Eve Gala Fee
• Click here to visit the resort's listing on TripAdvisor
• Tennis courts: See this post
• For a new map of the resort click here
> For the old map of the resort click here * Note that this map is orientated north and so the SUNRISE and SUNSET written on it are incorrect. Also note that you receive a black and white map when you arrive and this is not as good nor as detailed as the one posted here. For comments on the quality of the map, click here
• Snorkelling spots and other info 3e4sd:Link to post: (Courtesy of AirForceFlyer)
• Scuba Diving pics :Link to post: (Courtesy of Traveler Dave)
Activities Brochure (prices as of July 2019)
• Spa pics and review :Link to post: (Courtesy of Traveler Dave)
• Wellness Programme :Link to post: (Courtesy of AirForceFlyer)

Resort Information - F&B and Menus
• The resort has 11 restaurants / bars
• Kids under 6 eat free when ordering from the dedicated kids menu (all restaurants except the adult only ones have kids menu; does not apply to in-room dining)
• Some restaurant menus are available in PDF format on the resort's website. Click here to visit the relevant page on their website
• Menus for most restaurants as of early October 2020: See this post
• For pictures of most of the menus: Part 1 and Part 2
• Dining Programme / restaurant opening times: See this post and the post below it
• IVD (In Villa Dining) menus: See this post
• Yasmeen - Menu version discussion here.
• Terra is $298.00++ per person. As of December 2019, the set menu includes Amuse Brioche (3 selections per person), a starter (tuna, avocado, caviar), 2 courses highlighting lobster and wagyu beef with a pallet cleanse in between, a dessert course, then finishing with 3 additional sweet selections per person.
• The Ledge - See this post. Note that this menu changes daily but there are probably only 2 for each day and 14 in total (7 for lunch and 7 for dinner). Chefs rotate to the resort from Burnt Ends in Singapore.
+ Peacock Alley 1/2 priced drinks daily after 9:30pm. High-quality cocktails and liquors available at a very affordable price ranging from $13-$15 post discount
+ Tasting Table full buffet breakfast with made to order entrees and complimentary Champagne for $65++/person or Free for Hilton Diamond / Gold
+ Glow and Yasmeen wine selections are priced in the $65 - $85 ++ range per bottle.
• Lunch can be purchased at the main pool or beach from Nava or The Ledge. The majority of lunch entrees cost $30-$50++. Lunch is also available at Tasting Table, Tangled, or In Villa Dining.
• A new pizza oven was flown in from Italy to replace the original oven installed at Nava, and an Italian chef traveled to the resort to work with the team to elevate pizza quality in early December of 2019.
• During festive season 2019, the resort introduced a lobster & champagne dinner on the beach, including tasting stations, free flow champagne, and a live band for $298++ per person.

Miscellaneous Information
• Villa pool depth: See this post
• Best snorkelling spots: See this post and this post
• Complimentary water (in villa): See this post
• Walking / getting around the resort: See this post
• Sunset / Sunrise at the resort: See this post and this post
• Power outlet configuration: See this post


Elite member benefits:

Hilton Honors GOLD MEMBERS:
  • Full breakfast at Tasting Table
  • In-villa VIP welcome bottle of wine and fruits
  • Complimentary daily afternoon delights (see here for pic) with a fine selection of beverages crafted by mixologist and sommelier from 16:00 to 17:00 at Peacock Alley. Note The afternoon delights have been removed and replaced with a bowl of nuts or crisps for example
  • 50% special offer on selected beverages at Nava Beach Club from 22:00 to 23:30
Hilton Honors DIAMOND MEMBERS:
  • Full breakfast at Tasting Table
  • Free item from the kids menu for kids under 6 y.o. (staff are somewhat flexible on this age limit)
  • In-villa VIP welcome Champagne, sweet and savoury amenities, note this could be downgraded to a bottle of red wine.
  • [Diamond only benefit] With a selected 60-minute massage, enjoy a complimentary additional 30-minute at Waldorf Astoria Spa
  • Complimentary daily afternoon delights (see here for pic) with a fine selection of beverages crafted by mixologist and sommelier from 16:00 to 17:00 at Peacock Alley. Note : The afternoon delights have been removed and replaced with a bowl of nuts or crisps for example
  • 50% special offer on selected beverages at Nava Beach Club from 22:00 to 23:30 (January 2021: Currently at Peacock Alley as Nava closes at 7pm due to Covid-19 service changes)

Accommodation:
At opening the resort defined Beach Villas as the lowest category of accommodation (only this category bookable with points). The next highest category was Reef Villas then above that, the Overwater Villas. Note: villas on the Private Island do not count.
This will change in 2020. Quote from the resort "Please be informed that for next year we have changed our villa category. Kindly note that the Reef Villa will be our base category, next will be the Overwater Villa and then the Beach Villa. Basically the Beach Villa will be a higher category compared to reef Villa and Overwater Villa."
See this post for the conversation related to this. Pricing has changed as well to reflect this. See below for 2020 pricing.
Note that as of August 2019 the BV is still available to book on points in 2020. This may change, however.

Prices - Accommodation (2020):

***** March 2020 Figures *****
• Beach Villa USD 2630
• Overwater Villa USD 2430
• Reef Villa USD 1930


Prices - Accommodation (2019):

***** July 2019 Figures *****
• 2 Bedroom Beach Villa with Pool USD 3850
• 2 Bedroom Over Water Villa with Pool USD 4350

***** October 2019 Figures *****
• Beach Villa USD 2100
• Grand Beach Villa USD 2300
• Reef Villa USD 2300
• Grand Reef Villa USD 2500
• Overwater Villa USD 2500
• Grand Overwater Villa USD 2700


***** Upgrade Costs - Jul 2019 *****
• Two Bedroom Beach - US 2000
• Two Bedroom Grand Beach - US 2200
• Two Bedroom Reef - US 2200
• Two Bedroom Overwater - US 2400

***** Upgrade Costs - Oct 2019 *****
• Reef Villa USD 200
• OWV USD 400


Villa Types and Abbreviations used in this thread (listed in order from most basic to most luxurious)

-- BVs (Beach Villas) --

BV (Beach Villa)
GBV (Grand Beach Villa)

-- RVs (Reef Villas) --

RV (Reef Villa, the Garden Villa category shown in the pre-opening promo video)
GRV (Grand Reef Villa, also a type of Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)

-- OWVs (Over Water Villas) aka Ocean Villas in rewards booking --

OV (Overwater Villa)
GOV (Grand Overwater Villa)
SMR (Stella Maris Residences)

-- Occupancy Information --
See this post for maximum occupancy of each villa type

Villa Selection
• See this post and this post
• Privacy - Beach Villas: For pics, info and opinions, see the following posts; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10


Travel & Safety Information
• The Maldives is listed in Category 1 (the highest category) on the
WHO Zika virus classification table. However, don't let that scare you because as of April 13, 2017 there has only been one confirmed case of Zika in the Maldives
• Click here for information related to the single Zika infection in the Maldives (reported in January of that year)


Contact
• General Enquiries: [email protected]
• Reservations Department: [email protected]
• Tel: +960-4000-300
Click here for hilton site and click here for Waldorf Maldives website

Weather:
Note: since the resort is close to Mahibadhoo (where there is a weather station), I have added this info from the Conrad Maldives thread as both resorts are close by and the weather will be the same as far as forecasts go (MaldivesFreak)
• General info on weather in the Maldives: Link 1 Link 2 (Maldivian government website)
• Recommended Android weather app: eWeather HD. See this post for detailed info on the app, settings, tips and general weather info (Courtesy of MaldivesFreak)
• Want to get an idea about the weather in the month of August? Click here to read a post from a FT member that spends 2 weeks at Rangali during this month (Courtesy of Splotly)


Pictures - Resort under construction:
• January, 2018 :Link to post:
• June, 2018 :Link to post:
• Approx October, 2018 :Link to post:
• January, 2019 :Link to post:

Pictures & Videos - Post-opening:
• General pics of the resort (July, 2019) :Link to post: (Courtesy of jphripjah)
• The Stella Maris exclusive! :Link to post with links to videos: (Courtesy of alanslegal)
• Breakfast buffet at Tasting Table - Post #1 :Link to post: (Courtesy of alanslegal)
• Breakfast buffet at Tasting Table - Post #2 :Link to post: (Courtesy of jphripjah)
• Breakfast buffet at Tasting Table - Post #3 :Link to post: (Courtesy of Traveler Dave)
• Breakfast buffet at Tasting Table - Post #4 :Link to post: (Courtesy of Another Getaway)
• IVD(in villa dining) :Link to post: (Courtesy of Stivelio)
• Terra (views from all 7 'cages') :Link to post: (Courtesy of jphripjah)
• Terra and Family Pool :Link to post with link to video: (Courtesy of alanslegal)
• Reef Villa with sunset view :Link to post: (Courtesy of Stivelio)
• Views in the direction of Male (night & day pics) :Link to post 1: (Courtesy of wekxbrainx) :Link to post 2: (Courtesy of jphripjah)
• Bicycle tour :Link to post:
• Various resort and villa pics from a stay in November 2019 :Link to post: (Courtesy of aspenedelen)

Reviews:
Review by Jermyn
Review by goldelite8
Review by escape4
Review by Falcons05 (text only)

Historical Information for high rollers:
+ $135 shisha, Check out this post
+ If you do NOT have Gold/Diamond status with Free breakfast AND you decide NOT to pay the $65++ for full buffet at Tasting Table, then you may or may not encounter a $35 charge for a single egg
+ 106,000 dollar bottle of wine: Click
here for a picture of the wine menu (reactions follow on subsequent pages)


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Old Mar 15, 2022, 11:35 pm
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Hilton Honors GOLD MEMBERS:
Full breakfast at Tasting Table
In-villa VIP welcome bottle of wine and fruits
Complimentary daily afternoon delights (see here for pic) with a fine selection of beverages crafted by mixologist and sommelier from 16:00 to 17:00 at Peacock Alley
50% special offer on selected beverages at Nava Beach Club from 22:00 to 23:30

Hilton Honors DIAMOND MEMBERS:
Full breakfast at Tasting Table
In-villa VIP welcome Champagne, sweet and savoury amenities, note this could be downgraded to a bottle of red wine.
[Diamond only benefit] With a selected 60-minute massage, enjoy a complimentary additional 30-minute at Waldorf Astoria Spa
Complimentary daily afternoon delights (see here for pic) with a fine selection of beverages crafted by mixologist and sommelier from 16:00 to 17:00 at Peacock Alley
50% special offer on selected beverages at Nava Beach Club from 22:00 to 23:30
Could someone who've recently stayed here confirm if these benefits are still accurate, or if anything has changed?
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 2:55 am
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
Could someone who've recently stayed here confirm if these benefits are still accurate, or if anything has changed?
Here's my letter from the manager.

I also received a bottle of white wine along with a fruit basket.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by exmike

Indeed 502 is probably the least obstructed lagoon villa. Depending on where you’re sitting you might not really notice the OWVs. Great for a “base” room
Just curious about the heat in this room that you stayed at? We are currently staying in a room facing the other side and there is a constant breeze making it really nice to sit outside. When we go to the beach facing the lagoon or when we are eating at Nava, it is just unbearably hot as there is absolutely no breeze. It feels almost like a 10 degree difference between the two sides.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 3:48 am
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Originally Posted by mgef
Just curious about the heat in this room that you stayed at? We are currently staying in a room facing the other side and there is a constant breeze making it really nice to sit outside. When we go to the beach facing the lagoon or when we are eating at Nava, it is just unbearably hot as there is absolutely no breeze. It feels almost like a 10 degree difference between the two sides.
it’s fairly breezy but it could be because we are closer to the western edge of the atoll? The water sports area / nava was oppressively hot and we did not stay there long after paddle boarding. We did take some pictures on your side and it was quite nice with the breeze so there may be something to what you’re saying.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by mgef
Just curious about the heat in this room that you stayed at? We are currently staying in a room facing the other side and there is a constant breeze making it really nice to sit outside. When we go to the beach facing the lagoon or when we are eating at Nava, it is just unbearably hot as there is absolutely no breeze. It feels almost like a 10 degree difference between the two sides.
Originally Posted by exmike
it’s fairly breezy but it could be because we are closer to the western edge of the atoll? The water sports area / nava was oppressively hot and we did not stay there long after paddle boarding. We did take some pictures on your side and it was quite nice with the breeze so there may be something to what you’re saying.
Here as well and had a room facing the lagoon, a few villas down from 502. It definitely got hot in the afternoon, even in the morning around 10AM the temp of the water in the pool was very warm. Now I'm in a OWV in the 700s since I'm flying out late this evening and they needed my original villa. This villa gets a lot more breeze and its more comfortable to sit outside in the afternoon. If I had a choice in the future and wanted to stay in a Reef Villa, I'd probably ask for a villa ending with an odd number in the 500s.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
Could someone who've recently stayed here confirm if these benefits are still accurate, or if anything has changed?
No more welcome champagne for all elite members, including Diamonds.
Diamonds get a bottle of white wine instead of champagne, probably same as Golds.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 9:49 am
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I just came back from a week-long stay at this resort, and it was the best resort experience I've ever had.
I have stayed at other resorts in the Maldives including the usual suspects like the St Regis, Ritz Carlton, and Intercontinental, and the WA was better than all of them.
I think this is the best hotel in the world bookable on points across all loyalty programs.

We stayed at an odd-numbered reef villa facing the north direction, and it was simply perfect: direct ocean access, close beach access, great privacy (not facing any other villas and good amount of space between villas on the right/left), and partial sunset view.
Too bad my wife wants to spend our next vacation(s) exploring other parts of the world instead of going back to the Maldives yet again.

Edit:
I forgot to add one critical piece of information in my original post.
The wifi at this resort is pretty slow...this could be a big deal for anyone who plans on doing any kind of work while staying here.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by agjil
No more welcome champagne for all elite members, including Diamonds.
Diamonds get a bottle of white wine instead of champagne, probably same as Golds.
My friends had a quiet word with their host and this was changed for fizz for them.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 10:18 am
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Wink

Originally Posted by Wozza2404
My friends had a quiet word with their host and this was changed for fizz for them.
I guess everything is YMMV in life.
I personally didn't get a big desire to drink bubblies in the afternoon/evenings after having morning champagnes at the Tasting Table everyday, so I didn't bother asking my butler.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 11:16 am
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I do see "TWO QUEEN BEDDED REEF VILLA WITH POOL" under premium room rewards this month end. Is there possibility if this would become as standard rewards?
With less than two weeks left, wonder why they still keep it as premium room rewards when there is very less possibility of getting booked.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by tripluver
I do see "TWO QUEEN BEDDED REEF VILLA WITH POOL" under premium room rewards this month end. Is there possibility if this would become as standard rewards?
With less than two weeks left, wonder why they still keep it as premium room rewards when there is very less possibility of getting booked.
Because people actually book this resort last minute, like within a day or two before the actual stay date.
There are many people who can't plan their vacation well in advance and book things last minute even if it means paying a higher price.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by agjil
Because people actually book this resort last minute, like within a day or two before the actual stay date.
There are many people who can't plan their vacation well in advance and book things last minute even if it means paying a higher price.
And at this resort the cash price (assuming you're booking direct) doesn't tend to fluctuate that much even when booking last minute. So yes, I'd imagine there's a fairly good chance that room will be sold for cash.

Tripluver - at this point I'd probably be making my peace with having to pay cash for that missing night.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
And at this resort the cash price (assuming you're booking direct) doesn't tend to fluctuate that much even when booking last minute. So yes, I'd imagine there's a fairly good chance that room will be sold for cash.

Tripluver - at this point I'd probably be making my peace with having to pay cash for that missing night.
Yeah, I was actually told about these last minute bookings directly from the resort staff when I was there.
They said last minute bookings are quite common there.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by agjil
Yeah, I was actually told about these last minute bookings directly from the resort staff when I was there.
They said last minute bookings are quite common there.
Thanks. I already booked cash night just as a backup.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by nathagt
It's been about 3 months since we left and we still talk about this place nearly daily. It will forever hold a special place in our hearts. We hope to get back there soon. I wish it wasn't so hard to book on points. We originally had booked at the Conrad but COVID delayed our wedding by a year and so I was able to book at the WA instead. We're hoping to get back there for our 3rd anniversary. If you're on the fence about going here, my advice would be to do it. It's worth it. This place is paradise.
Congratulations on your belated honeymoon! Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed review of your stay experience.

Originally Posted by mgef
I'm here now and whenever we sit down, they ask if we want sparkling or still, we say house still. Out of the 5 visits, we've been charged $5 once for the water. On that visit when we were charged, we must've had around 6 of the smaller bottles. All of the other visits, we always go through at least 2-3 bottles of water. It's kind of funny, since the house waters have a statement on them, thanking us for drinking the house water to reduce waste.
Cheers thanks, we stayed at the resort the first week it opened, so thought the 'house water' might have changed since then.

We just stayed at the IC Hayman Island where they provide guests reusable insulated bottle, and encourage people "to be eco friendly" and use the filtered water systems that are placed around the island - then you get to the restaurants and they try to get you to buy bottled/imported water.

And to @mgef , @exmike , @agjil and others - great discussion about the variance in temperature depending on location, aspect, of the villas. Sure beats hearing about when availability opens up and why I can't book a points room.
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