Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
Last edit by: Zorak
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?
Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN
FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.How do I search for dates/prices?
One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
- outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
- inbound: dl+ nrt dtw
NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box
See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)
You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)
I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
- you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
- if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
- for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
- call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover
Do I need a visa?
No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.
What are the best seats?
Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
- one vote for the bulkhead in C+
- DL forum omnibus C+ thread: FAQ: Comfort+ Seating
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread
Will there be wifi on the international legs?
DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.
777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked
Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.
FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)
Other related threads:
Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)
Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet
SIN airport facilities
If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)
Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels
Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.
FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges
Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.
There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.
NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.
Things to do in SIN
In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.
SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.
Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9
Things to do on a long connection through NRT:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html
Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread
There is free wifi in NRT.
Returning to the US
Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)
You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.
Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.
Relevant FT threads:
- CLEAR - worthwhile use of $179? in theTrusted Travelers Forum
- DL-specific thread in the DL Forum
Returning via ATL:
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread
CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.
For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.
(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)
Returning via DTW:
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread
When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.
The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.
Duty Free Liquids
This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:
http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule
FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight
If you have any experience with this, please share!
IRROPS handling:
Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html
Trip Reports/Tips:
2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb
2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep
2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2
2013: Oct
[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)
May 9, 2016, 7:44 pm
#1351
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Zorak - Would you mind building one with a link that ends up in ATL? I am fine to have a few days in NRT or SIN.
Last edited by dinanm3atl; May 9, 2016 at 7:52 pm
May 9, 2016, 8:58 pm
#1352
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As mentioned in your other thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l-anytime.html I don't think you're going to find too many gems RT out of ATL, unfortunately.
If you have your heart set on the SIN MR, the ideas that come to mind are
1. Position to SFO or LAX. On the dates I looked at, SFO-XXX-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL and stopping there was in the 13xx range. The full round trip SFO-XXX-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL-SFO can be had for the high 800s though. Of course, in IRROPS the NRT-ATL leg might not be guaranteed, so it's up to you how risk-averse you want to be...
2. Depending on your location would you consider alternate airports? There seem to be ~$1000 or less possibilities out of AGS.
May 10, 2016, 2:28 am
#1353
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares May 9 SFO Dep
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$877 ai 3.46 cpm Oct 24-27 thru SLC out SFO SLC JFK BEST FARE
$954-964 ai 3.77 cpm Oct 17-20, 31-Nov 3, 7-10, 14-17
$984 ai 3.89 cpm Dec 5-8
$1027 ai 4.06 cpm Nov 21-24
$1124 ai 4.44 cpm Sep 26-29
$1291 ai 5.10 cpm Nov 28-Dec 1
SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,926 MQM
$873 ai 3.50 cpm Oct 24-27
$950 ai 3.81 cpm Oct 17-20, 31-Nov 3, 14-17, 21-24
$954 ai 3.83 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, 7-10
$960 ai 3.85 cpm Nov 28-Dec 1
$966 ai 3.88 cpm Dec 5-8
$1124 ai 4.53 cpm Oct 10-13
$1222 ai 4.90 cpm Oct 3-6
Fares from Google.com/flights, dates not given higher prices. Please post comments, trip reports and lower fares. Zorak thanks for helping answer questions about different itineraries. No good fares till fall and next year. As Zorak noted if you want to stay longer you may have much higher fares but you can always try and see what happens. Lowest fares will be out of SFO and LAX.
Thanks to all readers and posters! If you find lower fares, please post.
Happy Travels! Keep smiling! Blessings! Have a great week
$877 ai 3.46 cpm Oct 24-27 thru SLC out SFO SLC JFK BEST FARE
$954-964 ai 3.77 cpm Oct 17-20, 31-Nov 3, 7-10, 14-17
$984 ai 3.89 cpm Dec 5-8
$1027 ai 4.06 cpm Nov 21-24
$1124 ai 4.44 cpm Sep 26-29
$1291 ai 5.10 cpm Nov 28-Dec 1
SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,926 MQM
$873 ai 3.50 cpm Oct 24-27
$950 ai 3.81 cpm Oct 17-20, 31-Nov 3, 14-17, 21-24
$954 ai 3.83 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, 7-10
$960 ai 3.85 cpm Nov 28-Dec 1
$966 ai 3.88 cpm Dec 5-8
$1124 ai 4.53 cpm Oct 10-13
$1222 ai 4.90 cpm Oct 3-6
Fares from Google.com/flights, dates not given higher prices. Please post comments, trip reports and lower fares. Zorak thanks for helping answer questions about different itineraries. No good fares till fall and next year. As Zorak noted if you want to stay longer you may have much higher fares but you can always try and see what happens. Lowest fares will be out of SFO and LAX.
Thanks to all readers and posters! If you find lower fares, please post.
Happy Travels! Keep smiling!
Blessings! Have a great week
May 10, 2016, 8:26 pm
#1354
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
I could, but I don't think you'll like what that does to the fare
As mentioned in your other thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l-anytime.html I don't think you're going to find too many gems RT out of ATL, unfortunately.
If you have your heart set on the SIN MR, the ideas that come to mind are
1. Position to SFO or LAX. On the dates I looked at, SFO-XXX-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL and stopping there was in the 13xx range. The full round trip SFO-XXX-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL-SFO can be had for the high 800s though. Of course, in IRROPS the NRT-ATL leg might not be guaranteed, so it's up to you how risk-averse you want to be...
2. Depending on your location would you consider alternate airports? There seem to be ~$1000 or less possibilities out of AGS.
As mentioned in your other thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l-anytime.html I don't think you're going to find too many gems RT out of ATL, unfortunately.
If you have your heart set on the SIN MR, the ideas that come to mind are
1. Position to SFO or LAX. On the dates I looked at, SFO-XXX-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL and stopping there was in the 13xx range. The full round trip SFO-XXX-NRT-SIN-NRT-ATL-SFO can be had for the high 800s though. Of course, in IRROPS the NRT-ATL leg might not be guaranteed, so it's up to you how risk-averse you want to be...
2. Depending on your location would you consider alternate airports? There seem to be ~$1000 or less possibilities out of AGS.
May 13, 2016, 1:49 am
#1355
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Booking your flight by phone with DL
Could someone please show me an easy way to book one of these? I cannot replicate this at all in Google Flights and I've never used ITA Matrix (I get a 503 error when I try to go to http://matrix.itasoftware.com/).
Happy Travels!
If you have any problems or questions send me a PM with contact number and we can talk. Blessings!
Last edited by Csfing1; May 13, 2016 at 1:53 am Reason: Spelling
May 19, 2016, 12:54 am
#1356
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares May 18. SFO Dep
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$906 ai 3.58 cpm Oct 24-27, Jan 9-12, 23-26 BEST FARE
$983 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 17-20, Nov 7-10, 14-17
$1002 ai 3.96 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Dec 5-8
$1056 ai 4.17 cpm Nov 21-24
$1076 ai 4.25 cpm Jan 30- Feb 2
SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,926 MQM
$902 ai 3.62 cpm Oct 24-27, Jan 16-19, 23-26
$983 ai 3.94 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20, 31- Nov 3, 7-10, 14-17, 21-24, 28-Dec 1
$995 ai 3.99 cpm Dec 5-8
Fares from Google.com/flights
Dates not given higher prices, checked from Aug thru Mar 2017, may get similar results for some weekends but didn't check
Happy Travels! Please post lower prices, comments encouraged and welcomed. Blessings!
$906 ai 3.58 cpm Oct 24-27, Jan 9-12, 23-26 BEST FARE
$983 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 17-20, Nov 7-10, 14-17
$1002 ai 3.96 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Dec 5-8
$1056 ai 4.17 cpm Nov 21-24
$1076 ai 4.25 cpm Jan 30- Feb 2
SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,926 MQM
$902 ai 3.62 cpm Oct 24-27, Jan 16-19, 23-26
$983 ai 3.94 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20, 31- Nov 3, 7-10, 14-17, 21-24, 28-Dec 1
$995 ai 3.99 cpm Dec 5-8
Fares from Google.com/flights
Dates not given higher prices, checked from Aug thru Mar 2017, may get similar results for some weekends but didn't check
Happy Travels! Please post lower prices, comments encouraged and welcomed.
Blessings!
Last edited by Csfing1; May 19, 2016 at 7:41 am Reason: Correct cpm price
May 19, 2016, 2:29 am
#1357
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: DL DM, UA, AA EXP, AS MVP75K GOLD, HHonors Diamond, BW Diamond, SPG Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 382
@Csfing1-
I think a small error on
"$1002 ai 2.96 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Dec 5-8" that's actually 3.96 CPM
I'm starting to look out towards Fall & Winter dates now...will try to crunch (and share) some creative numbers from our Mileage Run Team and Blog.
Thanks for all you do!
I think a small error on
"$1002 ai 2.96 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Dec 5-8" that's actually 3.96 CPM
I'm starting to look out towards Fall & Winter dates now...will try to crunch (and share) some creative numbers from our Mileage Run Team and Blog.
Thanks for all you do!
May 19, 2016, 7:31 am
#1358
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Thanks John
@Csfing1-
I think a small error on
"$1002 ai 2.96 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Dec 5-8" that's actually 3.96 CPM
I'm starting to look out towards Fall & Winter dates now...will try to crunch (and share) some creative numbers from our Mileage Run Team and Blog.
Thanks for all you do!
I think a small error on
"$1002 ai 2.96 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Dec 5-8" that's actually 3.96 CPM
I'm starting to look out towards Fall & Winter dates now...will try to crunch (and share) some creative numbers from our Mileage Run Team and Blog.
Thanks for all you do!
May 19, 2016, 12:53 pm
#1359
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SMF
Programs: DL DM, 2.6 MM
Posts: 1,041
Fares LAX Dep May 18
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$873 ai 3.48 cpm Nov 7-10
$913 ai 3.64 cpm Oct 24-27, Dec 5-8, Jan 9-12
$942 ai 3.75 cpm Nov 14-17
$973 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 17-20
$1042 ai 4.15 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Nov 28-Dec 1, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 20-23, Mar 6-9
LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$803 ai 3.26 cpm Nov 7-10 BEST FARE
$857 ai 3.48 cpm Jan 16-19, 23-26
$872 ai 3.54 cpm Nov 14-17
$911 ai 3.70 cpm Sep 9-12, Oct 24-27, Nov 28-Dec 1, 5-8, Jan 9-12
$923 ai 375 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20
$1041 ai 4.23 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 31-Nov 3, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 27- Mar 2
Fares from Google.com/flights. Dates not given are higher fares. Please post lower fares. Weekends were not checked but you may find some good fares if your look. Mon-Thu dates chosen as they are typically the lowest fares. If you make a run give us a report. Comments encouraged and welcomed!
Happy Travels! Have a Great Weekend! ^ Blessings!
$873 ai 3.48 cpm Nov 7-10
$913 ai 3.64 cpm Oct 24-27, Dec 5-8, Jan 9-12
$942 ai 3.75 cpm Nov 14-17
$973 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 17-20
$1042 ai 4.15 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Nov 28-Dec 1, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 20-23, Mar 6-9
LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$803 ai 3.26 cpm Nov 7-10 BEST FARE
$857 ai 3.48 cpm Jan 16-19, 23-26
$872 ai 3.54 cpm Nov 14-17
$911 ai 3.70 cpm Sep 9-12, Oct 24-27, Nov 28-Dec 1, 5-8, Jan 9-12
$923 ai 375 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20
$1041 ai 4.23 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 31-Nov 3, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 27- Mar 2
Fares from Google.com/flights. Dates not given are higher fares. Please post lower fares. Weekends were not checked but you may find some good fares if your look. Mon-Thu dates chosen as they are typically the lowest fares. If you make a run give us a report. Comments encouraged and welcomed!
Happy Travels! Have a Great Weekend!
^ Blessings!
Last edited by Csfing1; May 21, 2016 at 11:40 pm Reason: New fare for Nov 7-10, 14-17
May 20, 2016, 11:45 am
#1360
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$834 ai 3.32 cpm Nov 7-10, 14-17 BEST FARE
$857 ai 3.41 cpm Jan 16-19, 23-26
$913 ai 3.64 cpm Oct 24-27, Dec 5-8, Jan 9-12
$973 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 17-20
$1042 ai 4.15 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Nov 28-Dec 1, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 20-23, Mar 6-9
LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$833 ai 3.38 cpm Nov 7-10, 14-17
$857 ai 3.48 cpm Jan 16-19, 23-26
$911 ai 3.70 cpm Sep 9-12, Oct 24-27, Nov 28-Dec 1, 5-8, Jan 9-12
$923 ai 375 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20
$1041 ai 4.23 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 31-Nov 3, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 27- Mar 2
Fares from Google.com/flights. Dates not given are higher fares. Please post lower fares. Weekends were not checked but you may find some good fares if your look. Mon-Thu dates chosen as they are typically the lowest fares. If you make a run give us a report. Comments encouraged and welcomed!
Happy Travels! Have a Great Weekend! ^ Blessings!
$834 ai 3.32 cpm Nov 7-10, 14-17 BEST FARE
$857 ai 3.41 cpm Jan 16-19, 23-26
$913 ai 3.64 cpm Oct 24-27, Dec 5-8, Jan 9-12
$973 ai 3.88 cpm Oct 17-20
$1042 ai 4.15 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3, Nov 28-Dec 1, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 20-23, Mar 6-9
LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,634 MQM
$833 ai 3.38 cpm Nov 7-10, 14-17
$857 ai 3.48 cpm Jan 16-19, 23-26
$911 ai 3.70 cpm Sep 9-12, Oct 24-27, Nov 28-Dec 1, 5-8, Jan 9-12
$923 ai 375 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20
$1041 ai 4.23 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 31-Nov 3, Jan 30-Feb 2, 13-16, 27- Mar 2
Fares from Google.com/flights. Dates not given are higher fares. Please post lower fares. Weekends were not checked but you may find some good fares if your look. Mon-Thu dates chosen as they are typically the lowest fares. If you make a run give us a report. Comments encouraged and welcomed!
Happy Travels! Have a Great Weekend!
^ Blessings!
May 21, 2016, 5:09 pm
#1361
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: DL DM, UA, AA EXP, AS MVP75K GOLD, HHonors Diamond, BW Diamond, SPG Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 382
We also have a client who is half-way on their journey (spending a month in Bali) and earned full MQM's + more redeemable miles (again) that if they had flown with Delta.
Both were very happy with their experiences. One client had long layover in Shanghai, but now China Eastern (aware of the issue) is giving free layover hotels if you book the flights on their site or through their telephone reservations.
See this post for Complimentary Layover Hotel Information
In addition, I should note that although we found all of these Mileage Runs online, we ALWAYS have to call China Eastern to make sure we get the right fare classes (unless it is a Business Class fare) to make sure our clients get best MQM possibilities. Booking through Kayak, Orbitz, CheapOAir, Priceline, etc...we found they were always giving "Q" fares; ineligible for MQM's.
Therefore, we have been successful in finding great fares in M, E, H fare classes.
May 26, 2016, 6:36 pm
#1362
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
Question. Looking at booking this for later in the year and have a few questions from the experts.
1a - Booking - Can you call Delta and give them the codes so it goes directly under your account? Or has to be a third party?
1b - Seating - With something you 'call in' like this how is seating done? Hang up and login and choose seats?
2 - I have never done one of this nature with so many stops and end result. I assume land at 12am local time and leave at 8am. With Delta have online check-in so can simply get on WiFi and check-in from inside the terminal?
3 - It says DL V Fare... that says 50% MQM on one part of Delta.com but other says 100%. Which is it? I understand it is discounted Economy.
Thanks!
1a - Booking - Can you call Delta and give them the codes so it goes directly under your account? Or has to be a third party?
1b - Seating - With something you 'call in' like this how is seating done? Hang up and login and choose seats?
2 - I have never done one of this nature with so many stops and end result. I assume land at 12am local time and leave at 8am. With Delta have online check-in so can simply get on WiFi and check-in from inside the terminal?
3 - It says DL V Fare... that says 50% MQM on one part of Delta.com but other says 100%. Which is it? I understand it is discounted Economy.
Thanks!
May 26, 2016, 6:53 pm
#1363
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,928
Question. Looking at booking this for later in the year and have a few questions from the experts.
1a - Booking - Can you call Delta and give them the codes so it goes directly under your account? Or has to be a third party?
1b - Seating - With something you 'call in' like this how is seating done? Hang up and login and choose seats?
2 - I have never done one of this nature with so many stops and end result. I assume land at 12am local time and leave at 8am. With Delta have online check-in so can simply get on WiFi and check-in from inside the terminal?
3 - It says DL V Fare... that says 50% MQM on one part of Delta.com but other says 100%. Which is it? I understand it is discounted Economy.
Thanks!
1a - Booking - Can you call Delta and give them the codes so it goes directly under your account? Or has to be a third party?
1b - Seating - With something you 'call in' like this how is seating done? Hang up and login and choose seats?
2 - I have never done one of this nature with so many stops and end result. I assume land at 12am local time and leave at 8am. With Delta have online check-in so can simply get on WiFi and check-in from inside the terminal?
3 - It says DL V Fare... that says 50% MQM on one part of Delta.com but other says 100%. Which is it? I understand it is discounted Economy.
Thanks!
1b. they'll ask what seats you prefer and you can have them do it, or say you want to look at the seat map and select them yourself, either way
2. you can get your boarding pass at the "D" transfer desk some like 3 hours before your departing flight. They'll ask some basic security questions. I also had airport security walk up to me while I was sitting on a bench and ask to see my itinerary/boarding pass but I think maybe they were just bored at 2am. Would suggest you also check out the wiki on this thread from the full (non-mobile) version of the FT site, there's a lot of useful stuff mentioned and linked there.
3. V fare DL ticketed on DL metal is 100% MQMs. Are you talking about about this page: http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ion-fares.html ? this isn't an exception fare so that page doesn't apply.
May 27, 2016, 8:56 am
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1a. you can call if you want and have them piece it together. I booked mine last year from ITA -> userscript -> DL web site.
1b. they'll ask what seats you prefer and you can have them do it, or say you want to look at the seat map and select them yourself, either way
2. you can get your boarding pass at the "D" transfer desk some like 3 hours before your departing flight. They'll ask some basic security questions. I also had airport security walk up to me while I was sitting on a bench and ask to see my itinerary/boarding pass but I think maybe they were just bored at 2am. Would suggest you also check out the wiki on this thread from the full (non-mobile) version of the FT site, there's a lot of useful stuff mentioned and linked there.
3. V fare DL ticketed on DL metal is 100% MQMs. Are you talking about about this page: http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ion-fares.html ? this isn't an exception fare so that page doesn't apply.
1b. they'll ask what seats you prefer and you can have them do it, or say you want to look at the seat map and select them yourself, either way
2. you can get your boarding pass at the "D" transfer desk some like 3 hours before your departing flight. They'll ask some basic security questions. I also had airport security walk up to me while I was sitting on a bench and ask to see my itinerary/boarding pass but I think maybe they were just bored at 2am. Would suggest you also check out the wiki on this thread from the full (non-mobile) version of the FT site, there's a lot of useful stuff mentioned and linked there.
3. V fare DL ticketed on DL metal is 100% MQMs. Are you talking about about this page: http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ion-fares.html ? this isn't an exception fare so that page doesn't apply.
May 27, 2016, 10:19 am
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