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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old May 27, 2016, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak
You're getting that from the ITA Userscript? "call a travel agent" sounds like a Google Flights thing.

What dates are you looking to travel?
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Old May 27, 2016, 12:06 pm
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Here's a Kayak link:

https://www.kayak.com/flights/lax-DT...lax/2016-11-11

I didn't try them all but the first result clicked through successfully to Delta for me.

EDIT: oh, that's through DTW both ways. Changing the return to JFK adds ~$100 but if you want that you can click "Change" and tweak the cities. Although then you might as well go through JFK in both directions for the slight increase in MQMs because the fare difference between JFK in one direction vs both directions was minimal.
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Old May 28, 2016, 9:43 am
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Thanks. Definitely works that way. Wonder why not via ITA?
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Old May 30, 2016, 1:07 pm
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is it possible to do these runs and have a stop for say a week instead of just a day in singapore?
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Old May 30, 2016, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Myopia
is it possible to do these runs and have a stop for say a week instead of just a day in singapore?
Yes, of course it is. For example extending the LAX run a few post above to a week result in the same price - https://www.kayak.com/flights/LAX-DT...LAX/2016-11-16

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Old May 31, 2016, 2:09 am
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Fares May 30, 2016

SFO dep SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$876 ai 3.46 cpm Oct 31 - Nov 3
$948 ai 3.74 cpm Oct 17-20

SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,976 MQM
$871 ai 3.49 cpm Oct 17-20
$876 ai 3.51 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3
$9,53 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 10-13
$1045 ai 4.18 cpm Oct 24-27

SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL SFO 24,634 MQM
$871 ai 3.54 cpm Sep 5-8, Oct 24-27, 31-Nov 3
$876 ai 3.56 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 17-20, Nov 7-10, 14-17, Dec 5-8
$953 ai 3.87 cpm Sep 19-22, Nov 21-24

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,252 MQM
$827 ai 3.41 cpm Nov 7-10 BEST PRICE
$833 ai 3.43 cpm Sep 5-8, 12-15, 26-29, Oct 24-27, 31-Nov 3, 28-Dec 1
$843 ai 3.48 cpm Oct 10-13, 17-20
$910 ai 3.75 cpm Sep 19-22, Oct 3-6, Nov 21-24

Prices from Google.com/flights. Dates not given higher prices. Please post lower prices and questions. Comments welcome and encouraged

Happy Travels! No good prices till fall, Sep to early Dec. Blessings!

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Old Jun 1, 2016, 6:24 pm
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Hi, I am new to this site and process so please let me know if I am missing something.

I am in the process of looking at my planned flights for the year and I think I am going to be about 10k MQM away from silver (first year out of school fly for work/travel).

Are there any ATL based runs I can build that would net me 10K? Most of the runs I see are heading to APAC, which doesn't have very favorable rates coming out of ATL.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Jun 1, 2016, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by ems717
Hi, I am new to this site and process so please let me know if I am missing something.

I am in the process of looking at my planned flights for the year and I think I am going to be about 10k MQM away from silver (first year out of school fly for work/travel).

Are there any ATL based runs I can build that would net me 10K? Most of the runs I see are heading to APAC, which doesn't have very favorable rates coming out of ATL.

Thanks in advance.
Welcome to FT! This thread isn't exactly the right place for it, but in general you aren't going to find too many good MRs on DL out of ATL since it is a giant DL hub. See e.g. the conversation here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l-anytime.html

or these other threads from the past in the Mileage Runs Discussion forum

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/searc...&query=atlanta

If the geography works for you, you might consider looking at alternate departure airports around Atlanta itself.
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Old Jun 4, 2016, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,252 MQM
$827 ai 3.41 cpm Nov 7-10 BEST PRICE


Prices from Google.com/flights. Dates not given higher prices. Please post lower prices and questions. Comments welcome and encouraged

Happy Travels! No good prices till fall, Sep to early Dec. Blessings!
Anyone have a direct Kayak link for this? Having trouble making it work via Kayak off the previous link.
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Old Jun 4, 2016, 11:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,252 MQM
$827 ai 3.41 cpm Nov 7-10 BEST PRICE
Originally Posted by dinanm3atl
Anyone have a direct Kayak link for this? Having trouble making it work via Kayak off the previous link.
Even better, from $815:

https://www.kayak.com/flights/LAX-AT...LAX/2016-11-10
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Old Jun 5, 2016, 1:56 am
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Smile Works great, your MR before price goes up!

Originally Posted by Zorak
Zorak, thanks for your post and the link and great price. To all MRers better make your MR before the prices go up!

Happy Travels! Blessings!
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Old Jun 5, 2016, 2:40 pm
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Smile Fares June 5 SFO and LAX Dep

SFO Dep
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM
$944 ai 3.73 cpm Sep 26-30, 27-30, Oct 17-21, 18-21
$953 ai 3.76 cpm Oct 17-20 31- Nov 3
$1050 ai 4.15 cpm Sep 26-29

SFO ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 24,976 MQM
$939 ai 3.76 cpm Sep 26-30, Oct 17-21, 18-21
$944 ai 3.78 cpm Sep 27-30
$949 ai 3.80 cpm Oct 17-20
$953 ai 3.82 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3
$959 ai 3.84 cpm Nov 7-10
$1046 ai 4.19 cpm Sep 26-29
$1213 ai 4.86 Nov 21-24

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,248 MQM
$815 ai 3.36 cpm Nov 7-10, 14-17 BEST PRICE
$821 ai 3.39 cpm Dec 5-8
$827 ai 3.41 cpm Sep 26-29, Oct 17-20, 31- Nov 3
$887 ai 3.62 cpm Sep 19-22, 27-30, Oct 24-27, Nov 21-24
$998 ai 4.12 cpm Sep 12-15
$1012 ai 4.17 cpm Oct 10-13, Nov 28-Dec 1

LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
$823 ai 3.28 cpm Sep 26-29 BEST FARE!
$833 ai 3.32 cpm Nov 14-17
$844 ai 3.36 cpm Oct 17-20
$887 ai 3.53 cpm Oct 31-Nov 3
$896 ai 3.57 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 24-27

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24,926 MQM
$821 ai 3.29 cpm Nov 7-10
$827 ai 3.32 cpm Sep 26-29, Oct 17-20, Nov 14-17
$887 ai 3.56 cpm Oct 10-13, 31-Nov 3
$896 ai 3.59 cpm Sep 12-15, Oct 24-27

Thanks to Zorak for his help for those of you who use ITA. My fares are from Google.com/flights. Dates not posted are higher fares. Please post low fares if you find some. My list is not complete and all comments welcomed and encouraged.

Happy Travels! Have a super week! Keep Smiling! Blessings!

Last edited by Csfing1; Jun 5, 2016 at 3:48 pm Reason: Add fares fron LAX
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Old Jun 7, 2016, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak
This one is showing $797 this morning!
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Old Jun 7, 2016, 7:52 am
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$700

I'm finding $700 RT July 3rd to July 9th.
LAX to SIN.
I don't know if I've ever seen it this cheap before.
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Old Jun 7, 2016, 9:18 am
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One of these times I am going to do this run. Anyone have this planned for the fall? Maybe I'll join.
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