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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

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2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Oct 12, 2014, 12:32 pm
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Im seriously debating doing another one next week just to make a crap ton of roll over next year......
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 2:17 pm
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FlyerTalk tags are a good way to find other people during mileage runs to/from SIN, especially at the SkyClub's or gate areas!
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 8:25 pm
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FlyerTalk tags are a good way to find other people during mileage runs to/from SIN, especially at the SkyClub's or gate areas!
Or KM tags!
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 9:48 pm
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Smile Enjoy your MR,

Originally Posted by UKbritt
Getting ready to do my annual run....met some great co-mileage runners last time..SIN by far is one of the best airport destinations to do this in
What is date for your run? Ours is Oct 26-29 SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO, trying to work in one more before end of year. Possibly week of Thanksgiving if I can get a reasonable price. Will see what the DM desk has to say. Enjoy your run and let us know how it goes, we are still waiting for GU to clear in intl parts of trip, looks like it should work out except possibly on SIN NRT leg which doesn't have as many seats available at this time. Have a great run and keep us posted on how things go.

Happy Travels! Get your quadrivalent Flu shot, we got ours before our trip to KWA. Cheers!
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 9:54 pm
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Smile Go for it!

Originally Posted by xolinlevh
Im seriously debating doing another one next week just to make a crap ton of roll over next year......
Go for it, our run is Oct 26-29 SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO
Let us know what dates you get.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 11:43 am
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Hi there,

First post here.

I am trying to find a way to get 17000 MQM departing from Rome (FCO) in december. Any tips?

FCO/AMS/KUL was the closest I could find for a reasonable price.
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Guilherme Furtado
Hi there,

First post here.

I am trying to find a way to get 17000 MQM departing from Rome (FCO) in december. Any tips?

FCO/AMS/KUL was the closest I could find for a reasonable price.
If the price is within your price range and get you the MQM you need, go for it. You may not get as good a price in CPM cost but what is more important is to get the miles you need at a price you are willing to pay. Check different days of the week and see if it makes a difference and avoid flying near holidays.

Mom, TUE and Sat are usually lower prices than other dates but try and see which one gives the best price, sometimes it may not make a difference. Let us know what you get and price and itinerary in case someone else is interested.

Happy Travels! Get your Flu shot! If anyone gets lower prices, please post! Cheers!

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Old Oct 13, 2014, 7:35 pm
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Originally Posted by DeltaWings
Or KM tags!
How do I get a set of those!
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Old Oct 14, 2014, 7:44 pm
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Smile Awesome Prices Oct 15, maybe a little hyperbole but very good!

Prices for LAX Dep are best $972.10 ai 3.81 cpm

$972.10 ai 25,096 MQM 3.81 cpm LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX Nov 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 23-26, 24-27

$1061.10 ai 25,318 MQM 4.19 CPM SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX Nov 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 23-26, 27-30

These are some of the best prices I have seen in a while so if you need a MR before the end of the year, go for it. You won't get as many miles next year on low prices so stock up this year, they roll over.

Got an excellent price for the following itin LAX NRT SIN NRT LAX $901 for Dec 3-14, cpm 5.13 cpm, not as good value but we have some work to do in SIN and China so,have to stay a longer period of time.

Happy Travels! Get your Flu shot! If you find better prices please post! Cheers!
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 1:03 am
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have you researched any into dec?
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 1:14 am
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Are all the JFK-NRT legs coming up now on a 777 vs a 747?
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by si106
have you researched any into dec?
Prices usually higher, check with DM desk as that is only way I could get prices. Happy Travels! Get your Flu shot! Cheers!
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Old Oct 15, 2014, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by xolinlevh
Are all the JFK-NRT legs coming up now on a 777 vs a 747?
777, wish they were 747, better chance for UG with GU.
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 3:42 pm
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have you researched any into dec?
MR fares were only available during the first weekend in DEC. Of course I snagged it I did need to call the DM desk to book though.
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Old Oct 16, 2014, 9:34 pm
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kindly share

what rates did you get from dm desk for first week of dec ?
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