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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Aug 31, 2015, 12:58 am
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Sky view Lounge in SIN

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If I do get upgraded to biz, I can use the lounge on arrival at no charge?

I think you may be able use lounge but am not absolutely certain, if you get upgraded go with your boarding pass and see if it works.

Have a great trip. Currently in NRT waiting for LAX dep at 1630. Had empty seat between us SIN NRT but not on next leg, plane full but not oversold so not likely to get UG. Did get UG on LAX NRT leg but not NRT SIN.

Happy Travels! Cheers!

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Old Aug 31, 2015, 5:43 am
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Plane full but not enuff for an UG. Glad to have EC and wifi. If you are going to do a MR this year better do it before the prices go any higher.
Have a great week. Free wifi is only for one hour but that is better than none. Those of you who are doing MR, let us know how how they go.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Aug 31, 2015, 9:30 am
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Nice to know you get a free hour of wifi! I have my 10 free gogo passes from Amex -- will be very happy to burn some on the TPAC segments. I cancelled my unlimited subscription with the price increase and + intl is no longer included (I think). In any case, I haven't flown as many cross-country flights this year and I've been able to make do with some tricks between devices to keep costs negligible vs the $50/mo I would be paying.
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Old Aug 31, 2015, 6:42 pm
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Home at last

Glad to be back in U.S. Global Entry and PreChek are worth the extra cost if you fly very often. When I go thru PreChek I thank them for bringing the fun back to flying and they respond with a smile. SC in LAX much nicer and more room than before. Only 13 days till our next trip, RTW award in J, too bad that fare is no longer available, 280,000 RDM. Can have 6 stops with max of 16 segments. They were all used. Only segs on DL were between SMF LAX at beginning and end. Stops are MEL HKG DXB FCO LHR EZE on China Eastern, Garuda, Korean, Alitalia, Air France and AeroMexico. Tried to get a A380 in J, mostly 777 but get a 787 EZE MEX LAX. Originally had A380 on Korean but that only got us to SYD and we wanted MEL. China Southern has A380 but those are blocked for Sep. so we are out of luck so far. For those who are interested we will transit PVG CGK ICN CDG and MEX. EC on DL makes a big difference in Y as seats recline a little more and pitch is increased, room between rows. If anyone needs a MR this year better do it before price goes up more. Another note on SIN, when returning from DPS, Denpasar, Bali and KCH Kuching, Malaysia all our carry on was screened, XRay but not on flight from NRT. Why? Drugs? Probably but no reason given and they don't have to give a reason. Sometimes LAX and SFO have dogs sniffing for food so be sure to declare food and no fresh fruit or meat products, don't want to lose your GE if you fail to declare and have some.
Happy Travels! Cheers!

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Old Sep 1, 2015, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
LAX Dep LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
Fares from Google.com/flights
Dates not given higher prices
Book using Kayak

PRICES GOING UP!

$854 ai 3.40 cpm Sep 27-30 BEST PRICE
$939 ai 3.74 cpm Sep 28-Oct 1, Oct 19-22, Nov 9-12
$955 ai 3.81 cpm Oct 4-7
$1139 ai 4.54 cpm Sep 6-9, .Oct 26-29
$1244 ai 4.96 cpm Nov 2-5
$1369 ai 5.46 cpm Sep 7-10

If you get lower fares please post! Comments welcomed!
Happy Travels! Cheers!
Is it too early to start looking at 2016 dates?
I'm already DM qualified for 2016, so looking towards next year's MR's
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Old Sep 2, 2015, 3:12 am
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Consider fares Jan too April

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Is it too early to start looking at 2016 dates?
I'm already DM qualified for 2016, so looking towards next year's MR's

You can start looking Jan thru April and you can probably find some fares below $900 if you check weekly, whenever you see a fare you are willing to pay for the miles you want don't wait too long as the fare may not last very long.

If you get some good fares, please post. All comments welcome and encouraged.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Sep 2, 2015, 4:17 am
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Prices on Sep 2 LAX Dep 25,096 MQM

LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM

$849 ai 3.38 cpm Sep 28-Oct 1, Nov 9-12 BEST FARE
$867 ai 3.45 cpm Feb 1-4
$897 ai 3.57 cpm Jan 25-28
$909 ai 3.66 cpm Feb 15-18

If you get lower fares please post.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Sep 3, 2015, 8:41 pm
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LAX-JFK-SIN - 25,176 miles - $884 0.035 CPM

$859 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX Nov 9th out Nov 12th back. 0.034 CPM

$884 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX October 11th out October 14th back.
$889 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX October 24th out October 27th back, October 30th - Nov 2nd, Nov 7th - Nov 10th.

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Old Sep 4, 2015, 6:35 pm
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LAX-JFK-SIN - 25,176 miles - $884 0.035 CPM
$859 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX Nov 9th out Nov 12th back. 0.034 CPM

$884 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX October 11th out October 14th back.
$889 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX October 24th out October 27th back, October 30th - Nov 2nd, Nov 7th - Nov 10th.

Hi Steve,
Thanks much, great prices, keep checking and posting! Google flights gives prices faster, sometimes hard to buy thru them, more successful in buying on Kayak!

To everyone, have a great weekend and Holiday and if you are making. MR, enjoy your trip and let us know how many miles you accumulated and how your trip was. Cheers!
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Old Sep 5, 2015, 9:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
LAX-JFK-SIN - 25,176 miles - $884 0.035 CPM
$859 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX Nov 9th out Nov 12th back. 0.034 CPM

$884 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX October 11th out October 14th back.
$889 - Google Flights - Enter LAX-JFK-SIN-JFK-LAX October 24th out October 27th back, October 30th - Nov 2nd, Nov 7th - Nov 10th.

Hi Steve,
Thanks much, great prices, keep checking and posting! Google flights gives prices faster, sometimes hard to buy thru them, more successful in buying on Kayak!

To everyone, have a great weekend and Holiday and if you are making. MR, enjoy your trip and let us know how many miles you accumulated and how your trip was. Cheers!
question: if you're airport of origin is not LAX, do you buy a separate ticket from there to LAX?
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Old Sep 5, 2015, 11:14 pm
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Anyway to book this to start and end in ATL ? if not possible how about just ending in ATL?
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Old Sep 5, 2015, 11:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM

Fares from Google.com/flights, dates not given higher prices
Prices may not last long! If you need more MQM for 2015 better buy now before prices go up!

$848 ai 3.38 cpm Oct 5-8 BEST FARE IN MONTHS!
$860 ai 3.43 cpm Nov 9-12
$867 ai 3.45 cpm Nov 9-12 LAX ATL JFK a few more MQM
$938 ai 3.74 cpm Sep 6-9, Oct 19-22
$950 ai 3.79 cpm Sep 7-10, Nov 2-5
$1138 ai 4.53 cpm Sep 14-17, 28-Oct 1
$1150 ai 4.58 cpm Nov 16-19

If you get lower prices or have comments or questions please post, thanks!
Happy Travels! Cheers! Have a great weekend! Still in Bali. SCUBA diving great! Off to work on Sunday for 3 days in Malaysia via Air Asia.
How did you add ATL into the the route?
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Old Sep 5, 2015, 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by SeattleiteTelavivian
question: if you're airport of origin is not LAX, do you buy a separate ticket from there to LAX?
Depends, yes as you have to get there, that is called a "positioning" flight and you need to see if adding on the city that you are leaving from and where you want to end up costs more as a separate ticket or it can be added on at beginning and end of trip. You need to price it out both ways and see which costs less. Have had individuals start in DFW and go DFW ATL LAX at beginning and end LAX ATL DFW. Pick the route that will give you the most MQM at the lowest cost, CPM.

Hope this helps answer your question, if you don't understand send me a PM with your phone number and as long as you are in the U.S. or Canada I will call you, otherwise I can PM you my phone number and you can call me.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by maudline9
Anyway to book this to start and end in ATL ? if not possible how about just ending in ATL?
See post 988, if you don't understand it and still have questions as long as you live in U.S. send me a PM with your phone number and I will call you on Sunday, if you live outside of US I will PM you my number and you can call me.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Sep 6, 2015, 12:19 am
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Originally Posted by maudline9
How did you add ATL into the the route?
It just appeared on one of the choices on Google.com/flights for LAX JFK as LAX ATL JFK for the date given. You can try to add ATL as another city on multi city routing but it may or may not make a change in price. Will usually need to purchase tickets on Kayak as I haven't been too successful doing it on google.com/flights. Thanks for your questions.

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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