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Bilt Rewards Mastercard WikiPost
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 Considering Ive been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer. I should have added almost a Holy Grail (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus Im far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. Im also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term pointsetize, like monetize convert into or express in the form of currency, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word condo or condominium is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to micro transactions, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Linksto Bilt Rewards Terms of Use and Evolve Bank & Trust (Bilt Technologies) Customer Account Agreement. The Terms state Bilt may make available to you a Bilt Rent Account (Account), which is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. The Agreement states: For the avoidance of doubt, the Account is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an account that you may use to deposit or withdraw funds for any other purposes outside of rent payments.
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a Something went wrong message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires preauthorization and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.Rent payments can be made in multiple different ways. Bilt will provide a (bank) routing number and account number. ACH rent payments can be sent (deposited) by Bilt or withdrawn by a managing company.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5 x 6.5) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* quasi- a combining form meaning resembling, having some, but not all of the features of, used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as pending until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a transaction counter which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
Theres discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after BREAK.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year. Earn Interest on Points (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.Bilt Points Quest Trivia on the first of each month offers up to 250 points for correctly answering, within 10 seconds, 6 (out of 15-20) questions. Must get first 5 questions (10, 20, 30, 40, 50 points) correct to see the 6th bonus 100 point question. Theres often a Reddit thread with the Q & A. (Point Quest - October 2023 Answers) The lower half of this post has comments from a highly experienced test taker regarding memory, recall and studying for Points Quest Trivia.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.Bilt also has various RentFree games, available a few days prior to and/or on the 1st of the month, different people get different games. Could be a Family Feud style question with enough time to Google answers or a Where's Wally? (Bilt Brick) type of game or something else. Successful completion enters to be one of 3 people for whom Bilt pays their monthly rent (up to $2500).
List of Bilts Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one persons experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 Considering Ive been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer. I should have added almost a Holy Grail (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus Im far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. Im also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term pointsetize, like monetize convert into or express in the form of currency, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word condo or condominium is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to micro transactions, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Links
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a Something went wrong message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires preauthorization and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5 x 6.5) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* quasi- a combining form meaning resembling, having some, but not all of the features of, used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as pending until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a transaction counter which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
Theres discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after BREAK.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year. Earn Interest on Points (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.
List of Bilts Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one persons experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
Bilt Mastercard
#211




Join Date: Dec 1999
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Assume thats sarcasm ok well that comes with some of the territory here I suppose.
Its really quite simple WOH points are generally thought to be worth 1.7 to 1.8 per point
so I suggest to all just do the simple math.Decide for yourself
When a room is 20,000 in redemption points and the cash rate is 153.00 dollars there is a real problem IMO in any given program.
Its really quite simple WOH points are generally thought to be worth 1.7 to 1.8 per point
so I suggest to all just do the simple math.Decide for yourself
When a room is 20,000 in redemption points and the cash rate is 153.00 dollars there is a real problem IMO in any given program.
Last edited by NYC Flyer; May 19, 2023 at 2:13 pm Reason: clarif/amplif
#212
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 11,166
Not so much sarcasm as a cheeky suggestion that the consensus value is no longer reasonable and may be in the process of testing a new, lower level. I had actually edited my post suggesting I'd like to see 2 cents of value based on alternatives to transferring points to Hyatt, although when that implies 25-30K points on a room I'd never actually pay $500-600 for, my own expectations are probably worth revisiting as well.
One of the individuals in charge there @ The Bilt program came from Starwood,Jet Blue and IHG and had been involved
in the loyalty space for many years.
There target audience is the younger generation getting them entrenched before they go onto home ownership.
2 cents a point at least in hotel programs has been getting tougher to achieve of course always some sweet spot exceptions exist in almost every program
More and more as these programs get crazy with devaluations I am doing cash back more frequently @ 2% & 3 % return
Cash still king when all else fails with program dysfunction & excessive devaluation.
#213
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At least with Bilt its really designed with loyalty program partners in mind.
One of the individuals in charge there @ The Bilt program came from Starwood,Jet Blue and IHG and had been involved
in the loyalty space for many years.
There target audience is the younger generation getting them entrenched before they go onto home ownership.
2 cents a point at least in hotel programs has been getting tougher to achieve of course always some sweet spot exceptions exist in almost every program
More and more as these programs get crazy with devaluations I am doing cash back more frequently @ 2% & 3 % return
Cash still king when all else fails with program dysfunction & excessive devaluation.
One of the individuals in charge there @ The Bilt program came from Starwood,Jet Blue and IHG and had been involved
in the loyalty space for many years.
There target audience is the younger generation getting them entrenched before they go onto home ownership.
2 cents a point at least in hotel programs has been getting tougher to achieve of course always some sweet spot exceptions exist in almost every program
More and more as these programs get crazy with devaluations I am doing cash back more frequently @ 2% & 3 % return
Cash still king when all else fails with program dysfunction & excessive devaluation.
#214
Ambassador: World of Hyatt




Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 11,166
Otherwise fully agreed.
We are not dealing with Chase, Citibank or even do I dare say American Express not even close
I spoke with someone yesterday @ Wells Fargo Executive liaison dept the other day sharing feedback about the card and customer service.Oddly related or unrelated I received an email from the CEO
Assume its a typical form letter that every cardholder receives.Can anyone share if they received this as well?
"I’d love to hear your thoughts so far on Bilt Rewards and any ideas for things we can do to make it even better.
I promise we’ll take your feedback seriously and that these ideas will shape the future of the program.
You can just reply to this email with any thoughts.
And if you had any specific feedback about the Bilt Mastercard that you wanted to share with Wells Fargo, you can call them"
#215

Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: DCA, IAD
Programs: Hyatt Globalist; AA Plat. Pro.
Posts: 249
The only reason not to have the Bilt Card is the lack of helpful customer service I've personally experienced.
Otherwise fully agreed.
We are not dealing with Chase, Citibank or even do I dare say American Express not even close
I spoke with someone yesterday @ Wells Fargo Executive liaison dept the other day sharing feedback about the card and customer service.Oddly related or unrelated I received an email from the CEO
Assume its a typical form letter that every cardholder receives.Can anyone share if they received this as well?
"Id love to hear your thoughts so far on Bilt Rewards and any ideas for things we can do to make it even better.
I promise well take your feedback seriously and that these ideas will shape the future of the program.
You can just reply to this email with any thoughts.
And if you had any specific feedback about the Bilt Mastercard that you wanted to share with Wells Fargo, you can call them"
Otherwise fully agreed.
We are not dealing with Chase, Citibank or even do I dare say American Express not even close
I spoke with someone yesterday @ Wells Fargo Executive liaison dept the other day sharing feedback about the card and customer service.Oddly related or unrelated I received an email from the CEO
Assume its a typical form letter that every cardholder receives.Can anyone share if they received this as well?
"Id love to hear your thoughts so far on Bilt Rewards and any ideas for things we can do to make it even better.
I promise well take your feedback seriously and that these ideas will shape the future of the program.
You can just reply to this email with any thoughts.
And if you had any specific feedback about the Bilt Mastercard that you wanted to share with Wells Fargo, you can call them"
#216


Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SEA
Programs: AS 75k, A3 Gold
Posts: 1,095
After approval (via email), is there a chance that they will overnight/expedite the card to me so I have it in hands before a trip I am about to take?
#217
Ambassador: World of Hyatt




Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 11,166
Go in with low expectations and in my own experience this is likely the worst customer service experience you can find
.They designed a solid unique card with good loyalty partners and thats where it ends imo
Hopefully they assist but I would be very surprised
#219

Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: DCA, IAD
Programs: Hyatt Globalist; AA Plat. Pro.
Posts: 249
Thoughts on the June Rent Day promo? Feels kind of underwhelming tbh.
#221
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 5
Update - Contacted Bilt and they were able to resend my email for the welcome promotion. Apparently, I was enrolled in the promotion but hadn't received the email. So if you don't get the email i advise reaching out to make sure you aren't already enrolled and missing out on your 5 days without knowing it.
I have had to contact their customer service twice already. Once for this and once for a declined charge before I got the card. It was related to two larger charges back to back, so it triggered the fraud alert. But every time I have contacted them, I reached a person instantly and they were able to get me to the people I needed to speak with quickly and get everything resolved.
So far their customer service has been stellar!
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Received the card yesterday on Rent Day. Was able to pay some items to max out the 10k offer, but I still have not received the welcome email with the 5x for five days. Hoping I am targeted and it shows up soon. But wondering what causes some to get it and others to not. My card came via USPS, but it seems others have received theirs via UPS that got the WO/SUB.
I started using my card through apple pay same day I was approved and wonder if that was a mistake. Maybe the welcome offer is to get people using it quickly. But sure there are many reasons.
Would love to get feed back about other's experiences with getting and not getting the 5x five day offers.
I have had to contact their customer service twice already. Once for this and once for a declined charge before I got the card. It was related to two larger charges back to back, so it triggered the fraud alert. But every time I have contacted them, I reached a person instantly and they were able to get me to the people I needed to speak with quickly and get everything resolved.
So far their customer service has been stellar!
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Received the card yesterday on Rent Day. Was able to pay some items to max out the 10k offer, but I still have not received the welcome email with the 5x for five days. Hoping I am targeted and it shows up soon. But wondering what causes some to get it and others to not. My card came via USPS, but it seems others have received theirs via UPS that got the WO/SUB.
I started using my card through apple pay same day I was approved and wonder if that was a mistake. Maybe the welcome offer is to get people using it quickly. But sure there are many reasons.
Would love to get feed back about other's experiences with getting and not getting the 5x five day offers.
Last edited by RaleighDawg; Jun 2, 2023 at 3:13 pm
#222




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Programs: BA, UA, US, AA
Posts: 50
Anyone else getting the log into Evolve error?
Making my usual rent payment via PayPal and Im getting a prompt to log into Evolve, which of course is impossible.
A friend who also got this error was told by Bilt CS to delete the Evolve account in PayPal and re-add it, selecting Wells Fargo as the bank this time.
I did this, however the account still auto-populates as Evolve and Im still getting the error when attempting to send payment.
A friend who also got this error was told by Bilt CS to delete the Evolve account in PayPal and re-add it, selecting Wells Fargo as the bank this time.
I did this, however the account still auto-populates as Evolve and Im still getting the error when attempting to send payment.
#223



Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Delta Plastic
Posts: 1,063
I transfered some points to Hyatt. I had the points deducted once and credited twice. I plan to let them know after I complete the stay I needed the points for so that this does not go sideways on me.
But, is there some promotion on either end? If so I'd move all my points to Hyatt. Or, is Bilt incorrectly listed as a double your points hotel or something instead of a transfer partner. I know it's probably a one time error but one can dream.
But, is there some promotion on either end? If so I'd move all my points to Hyatt. Or, is Bilt incorrectly listed as a double your points hotel or something instead of a transfer partner. I know it's probably a one time error but one can dream.
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I transfered some points to Hyatt. I had the points deducted once and credited twice. I plan to let them know after I complete the stay I needed the points for so that this does not go sideways on me.
But, is there some promotion on either end? If so I'd move all my points to Hyatt. Or, is Bilt incorrectly listed as a double your points hotel or something instead of a transfer partner. I know it's probably a one time error but one can dream.
But, is there some promotion on either end? If so I'd move all my points to Hyatt. Or, is Bilt incorrectly listed as a double your points hotel or something instead of a transfer partner. I know it's probably a one time error but one can dream.
That said, I've had this happen once before and nothing ever came of it, and I definitely didn't tell anyone about it. So I'd just be quiet and hope you get to keep them, but not count on it.
#225



Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Delta Plastic
Posts: 1,063
Do you have enough Hyatt points to cover your stay even without the extra points? Because if they got clawed back Hyatt might cancel your stay...
That said, I've had this happen once before and nothing ever came of it, and I definitely didn't tell anyone about it. So I'd just be quiet and hope you get to keep them, but not count on it.
That said, I've had this happen once before and nothing ever came of it, and I definitely didn't tell anyone about it. So I'd just be quiet and hope you get to keep them, but not count on it.



