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Old May 1, 2020, 9:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
You're right - and FedEx, UPS, DHL et al do not count here. Suffice it to say the destination is in the continental U.S.
19. Could it be United Airlines, Boeing 727-200, Denver - Boston?
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Old May 2, 2020, 1:08 am
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Friday Afternoon, I stumbled upon the Smithsonian Channel on Free Preview on DirecTv. They were playing a documentary on the development of the 747 from its conception and agreement with PanAm through the issues with the engines, to the point of popularity in the 70's and early 80's. It was a good historical look at the plane and how Boeing was driven by engineers back then, not by the profiteers of investors. If you get a chance to see it (I don't see it is playing again in the next week), try to tune it in. Ironically, the last 5 minutes of the show touched on the 747-8 debut in 2011 and many mentions that they will be around for many years to come, but also that the 787 was taking over more as the lean thin routes were becoming more popular instead of the hub flying of the 747. I believe there aren't many 747-100, -200, and -400's flying anymore and the few -8's that are, probably will be converted to freighters as the demand for these large aircraft wains.
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Old May 2, 2020, 1:11 am
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19. (1998) Not counting international flights, what is the longest commercial flight out of Colorado? We’re looking for the route, the airline and the aircraft type.

Could it be United Airlines, Boeing 727-200, Denver - Boston?

No, it's not DEN-BOS. Additionally, the airline in question is not United. Please, carry on!
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Old May 2, 2020, 1:22 am
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Iran Air withdrew the last -100 (EP-IAM) from service in Jan 2014 ... I was on its first flight as a test engineer in Mar 1980

I don’t have any info at my fingertips about the -200, although I believe some freighters are still operational; I’m pretty sure all the -300s (both factory-built and customer-modified; I can only recall Swissair and KLM operating the type) have been parked for a number of years

as for the -400s, I know KLM accelerated their planned retirement from 2021 to last month; I would be very surprised to see BA or Lufthansa (or, for that matter, any other passenger operators) keep theirs active beyond this summer
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23- I should probably refrain from answering this, but I’ll provide a hint — the single-cabin service was to/from Newark
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Originally Posted by teddybear99
Friday Afternoon, I stumbled upon the Smithsonian Channel on Free Preview on DirecTv. They were playing a documentary on the development of the 747 from its conception and agreement with PanAm through the issues with the engines, to the point of popularity in the 70's and early 80's. It was a good historical look at the plane and how Boeing was driven by engineers back then, not by the profiteers of investors. If you get a chance to see it (I don't see it is playing again in the next week), try to tune it in. Ironically, the last 5 minutes of the show touched on the 747-8 debut in 2011 and many mentions that they will be around for many years to come, but also that the 787 was taking over more as the lean thin routes were becoming more popular instead of the hub flying of the 747. I believe there aren't many 747-100, -200, and -400's flying anymore and the few -8's that are, probably will be converted to freighters as the demand for these large aircraft wains.
It's really amazing to think that the -400 first flew 31 years ago. As for the Smithsonian Channel and Free Previews on DirecTv - pffft! In my dreams! Out where I live, all we have is antenna access, but hey - it's better than nothing. I remember when we were kids we didn't have anything like all the electronic gadgets people have to entertain themselves today. We'd go horseback riding, bike riding, climb trees, build forts. Then we got this big radio and man, we used to spend hours sitting around that thing at night. Later, after we finally got electricity and plugged it in, it was even better!

Anyway, thanks for the update. Perhaps this show will be available on dvd someday - if it isn't already.
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Old May 2, 2020, 2:14 am
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23- I should probably refrain from answering this, but I’ll provide a hint — the single-cabin service was to/from Newark
Well you're right about Newark. Give it a try tomorrow. Wait! It is tomorrow! Go for it now! Unless you've got a couple others you'd prefer having a go at...
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
It's really amazing to think that the -400 first flew 31 years ago. As for the Smithsonian Channel and Free Previews on DirecTv - pffft! In my dreams! Out where I live, all we have is antenna access, but hey - it's better than nothing. I remember when we were kids we didn't have anything like all the electronic gadgets people have to entertain themselves today. We'd go horseback riding, bike riding, climb trees, build forts. Then we got this big radio and man, we used to spend hours sitting around that thing at night. Later, after we finally got electricity and plugged it in, it was even better!

Anyway, thanks for the update. Perhaps this show will be available on dvd someday - if it isn't already.
Checked online this morning, the next showing is in June. Can also be streamed (with a fee) from the website.
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Nothing like a few OTAQ&D questions to spice up the ennui of sheltering in place! We're off to a great start, guys...

As always, please limit your response to no more than two questions per day so that all may participate. And as always, we are looking for complete answers here. Answers that include terms like "possibly" or "probably" et al are not acceptable. Please be specific. Thanks!


15. (1979) You’re now in Dallas and need to get to Milwaukee for a breakfast conference tomorrow morning. You imagine there should be a good variety of nonstops but are surprised to find mostly multi-stop flights with only a single nonstop that departs DFW in the early evening. That’ll work! Which airline and aircraft type will you be flying upon?
It's not Midwest Express

23. (1985) Over the years many airlines have operated single class configured aircraft in the busy New York to Los Angeles market. In mid-1985 just one airline operates nonstop flights with them. Identify that airline and the aircraft type it uses.
It's not an MGM Grand Air D8S or a World DC10
15. Was Midwest Express even operating in 1985? My feeling this was an Ozark DC9-30.

23. Tapping in with short-lived Regent whose single class configuration was First Class on a 727-100. Sort of like the single class A318 that British Airways operated to London from New York a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by jrl767
I don’t have any info at my fingertips about the -200, although I believe some freighters are still operational; I’m pretty sure all the -300s (both factory-built and customer-modified; I can only recall Swissair and KLM operating the type) have been parked for a number of years
Quite a few more in the day. Last flight in on, for me, was ~1994/95 with a nice OpUp to F (flight was sold as J/Y but the a/c used was P/J/Y).

Here's a little bonus set of questions re: the 747-300

1. Which airline made its own version of the 747-300 and what was the sub-model number given to this version?

2. One of the biggest operators of 747s had a brand name for its 747-300. What was it?
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Old May 2, 2020, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach
Here's a little bonus set of questions re: the 747-300

1. Which airline made its own version of the 747-300 and what was the sub-model number given to this version?
I want to say SR rebuilt some of their -200 fleet to the “SUD” (Stretched Upprr Deck) configuration
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Old May 2, 2020, 10:19 am
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2. One of the biggest operators of 747s had a brand name for its 747-300. What was it?
Singapore Airlines used the name "Big Top" for their 747-300s.
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Old May 2, 2020, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
Well you're right about Newark. Give it a try tomorrow. Wait! It is tomorrow! Go for it now! Unless you've got a couple others you'd prefer having a go at...
(1) I provided this as the correct answer to a similar question last year (thought it was more recent ) (and also a year before that )
(b) I am indeed ready to weigh in on a couple others

and I owe you a bit of additional info as to my first thought for Q12 (PDX-MCO) ... TW MD-80 via St. Louis (STL)

and speaking of weighing in, here we go:
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28. (1985) Finally! Kansas City has a direct one-stop flight to Hawaii! No more long and occasionally annoying. Still, the price is right and so you book a couple of seats. Identify the airline, the connecting point and the two aircraft types involved.
28- I will open the bidding with American: MD-80 and DC-10, changing at Dallas/DFW

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Old May 2, 2020, 10:40 am
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I remember the movie well. And the aircraft - one of my favorites - a Convair 990 in the livery of Modern Air. I remember seeing one parked out at O'Hare for an extended time back in the 70s.
Correct! Here's a video clip from the film "Dog Day Afternoon" with the Modern Air Convair 990 taxiing in.....


Plus here's a 1977 Allegheny route map which includes a nonstop route between Trenton (TTN) and Chicago O'Hare (ORD) which I believe AL was operating with a DC9-30.....

Allegheny AIrlines April 24, 1977 Route Map

And the azure skies above southern Louisiana were graced yesterday by a military flyover in honor of hospital workers and first responders as our state continues to respond to the COVID-19 outbreak here. A pair of USAF B-52H bombers from Barksdale AFB near Shreveport were escorted by a pair of Louisiana Air National Guard F-15C fighters from Belle Chasse Joint Reserve Base near New Orleans and it was a very stirring sight.....

https://www.wafb.com/2020/04/28/mili...e-new-orleans/

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