Mar 13, 2019, 3:57 am
Last edit by: pandaperth
Chronological Summary of Changes to the Oneworld Explorer Rule Sheet
(click on the dates to go to the relevant posts in this thread)
2023-Oct-05 Changes to the Premium Economy surcharge table
2023-May-01 Rule 4(e) change, regarding second visit to Asia
2022-Aug-31 Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
2022-Apr-21 S7 removed from the list of airlines
2021-Jul-01 Minor change
2021-Apr-01 AS joins the alliance
2020-May-01 LATAM (LA & JJ) leaves the alliance
2020-Apr-01 Royal Air Maroc (AT) joins the alliance
2019-Mar-15 Minor change
2019-Feb-11 Rule 4(j) Wording, in part, changed from:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
To:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked in conjunction with a QF operated and marketed online connection or stopover flight at LAX
Rule 15 Following paragraph removed
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate.
Other, minor, changes
2019-Jan-08 Minor change (to the list of AA-affiliated airlines)
2018-Jun-06 Rule 16 - VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
Highlighted words removed
16(a)2d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated.
2018-Mar-05 Rule 4(j) Words added:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
2017-Oct-30 Rule 5 Reservations and Ticketing: changed wording
From:
Reservations for the first overwater flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
To:
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
Air berlin removed (it has ceased operating)
2017-Sep-05 No change (see the linked post)
2017-Aug-01 Rule 4(e) Major change regarding second visits to certain continents
Old Version:
New Version:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
Two permitted in North America.
Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. AA Premium Economy booking classes added
2017-Feb-01 Rule 4(f) has the following words added:
No more than 4 international transfers from the one country permitted
2016-Dec-01 Rule 0 Removal of these words
3 Continent Fare is only offered for travel originating in Asia, Europe/Middle East and North America
(because southern hemisphere 3- continent itineraries became possible when JJ commenced its GRU-JNB service)
Rule 4(g) addition of these words:
The first crossing between TC areas must be flown, not surfaced
Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*not more than 2 of which may be between the UK and ALBANIA, ALGERIA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CYPRUS, GREECE, MIDDLE EAST, MOROCCO, ROMANIA, RUSSIA west of the Urals, TUNISIA, TURKEY, UKRAINE.
2016-Aug-04 Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*segments between Europe and Middle East are not permitted if travel includes Africa and the itinerary utilises the backtracking provisions in Para 4(e) 3.1.3.or 3.2.3.
(So no more complicated rules regarding second visits to Europe/Middle East)
2016-Apr-22 Rule 4(e) Major change to the 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East rule
New wording is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...iddle-east.png Rule 8Stopovers.
Removal of the highlighted words:
2. Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
Rule 15 Sales Restrictions
Removal of the highlighted words:
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within Europe.
2016-Apr-01 Minor change to booking classes
2015-Dec-01 Minor change to list of affiliate airlines and to the cancellation fee
2015-Nov-01 US Airways removed from list of airlines (its merger with AA was complete)
2015-Sep-01Rule 4(k) ATL added to list of east coast cities
Rule 26 Change to group booking codes
2015-Jun-01 Rule 4(k) TPA added to list of east coast cities
2015-Feb-01 Minor change to the list of affiliated carriers
Rule 16 Voluntary Changes
Removal of “Date/Time/Carrier” changes. Phrase now used is “changes to ticketed points”
2014-Nov-01 Rule 4(j) change to the list of affiliated airlines
2014-Oct-01 Rule 5 Highlighted words added
NOTE: For flights where First or Business Class is not offered or available, passengers may travel in a lower Class, in the applicable booking code for that lower Class.
Where the applicable booking class for the lower class is not available,
Passengers travelling on First Class Fares may book Y class
Passengers travelling on DONE* Business Class Fares may book B class
2014-Aug-01 Minor changes only
2014-Jul-01 IONE3 fares added
Other minor changes
2014-May-01 UL joins Oneworld
2014-Apr-01 JJ and US join Oneworld
2013-Dec-01 Allows DONEn travellers to fly in first class on QR’s Middle East flights
2013-Oct-30 QR joins Oneworld
Complicated new rule for 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from/via Africa
2013-Oct-01 LAN Colombia joins Oneworld
2013-Jul-01 Minor changes
Removed the ability to purchase extra intra-continent flight segments
2013-Mar-01 Changes subsequently discovered
Continents transited to be counted
Rule 8. The highlighted words dropped
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
2013-Jan-31 MH joins Oneworld
2012-Nov Rule 0 The highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS
2011-May-02 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2011-Apr-01 Rule 4(e)(3) Tanzania removed from the list of African countries where 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East allowed
2011-Feb-02 QF codeshare flight on JQ allowed
Albania and Turkey added to the list of countries to/from which only two flights allowed from/to UK
2010-Nov-01 Highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SWP AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/ OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS.
Premium Economy supplements increased
2009-Nov-30 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2009-Aug-04 Rule 4(c) Origin-Destination surface segment allowed between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Rule 8. Highlighted words added
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin
(click on the dates to go to the relevant posts in this thread)
2023-Oct-05 Changes to the Premium Economy surcharge table
2023-May-01 Rule 4(e) change, regarding second visit to Asia
2022-Aug-31 Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
2022-Apr-21 S7 removed from the list of airlines
2021-Jul-01 Minor change
2021-Apr-01 AS joins the alliance
2020-May-01 LATAM (LA & JJ) leaves the alliance
2020-Apr-01 Royal Air Maroc (AT) joins the alliance
2019-Mar-15 Minor change
2019-Feb-11 Rule 4(j) Wording, in part, changed from:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
To:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked in conjunction with a QF operated and marketed online connection or stopover flight at LAX
Rule 15 Following paragraph removed
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate.
Other, minor, changes
2019-Jan-08 Minor change (to the list of AA-affiliated airlines)
2018-Jun-06 Rule 16 - VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
Highlighted words removed
16(a)2d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated.
2018-Mar-05 Rule 4(j) Words added:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
2017-Oct-30 Rule 5 Reservations and Ticketing: changed wording
From:
Reservations for the first overwater flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
To:
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
Air berlin removed (it has ceased operating)
2017-Sep-05 No change (see the linked post)
2017-Aug-01 Rule 4(e) Major change regarding second visits to certain continents
Old Version:
New Version:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
Two permitted in North America.
Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. AA Premium Economy booking classes added
2017-Feb-01 Rule 4(f) has the following words added:
No more than 4 international transfers from the one country permitted
2016-Dec-01 Rule 0 Removal of these words
3 Continent Fare is only offered for travel originating in Asia, Europe/Middle East and North America
(because southern hemisphere 3- continent itineraries became possible when JJ commenced its GRU-JNB service)
Rule 4(g) addition of these words:
The first crossing between TC areas must be flown, not surfaced
Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*not more than 2 of which may be between the UK and ALBANIA, ALGERIA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CYPRUS, GREECE, MIDDLE EAST, MOROCCO, ROMANIA, RUSSIA west of the Urals, TUNISIA, TURKEY, UKRAINE.
2016-Aug-04 Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*segments between Europe and Middle East are not permitted if travel includes Africa and the itinerary utilises the backtracking provisions in Para 4(e) 3.1.3.or 3.2.3.
(So no more complicated rules regarding second visits to Europe/Middle East)
2016-Apr-22 Rule 4(e) Major change to the 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East rule
New wording is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...iddle-east.png Rule 8Stopovers.
Removal of the highlighted words:
2. Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
Rule 15 Sales Restrictions
Removal of the highlighted words:
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within Europe.
2016-Apr-01 Minor change to booking classes
2015-Dec-01 Minor change to list of affiliate airlines and to the cancellation fee
2015-Nov-01 US Airways removed from list of airlines (its merger with AA was complete)
2015-Sep-01Rule 4(k) ATL added to list of east coast cities
Rule 26 Change to group booking codes
2015-Jun-01 Rule 4(k) TPA added to list of east coast cities
2015-Feb-01 Minor change to the list of affiliated carriers
Rule 16 Voluntary Changes
Removal of “Date/Time/Carrier” changes. Phrase now used is “changes to ticketed points”
2014-Nov-01 Rule 4(j) change to the list of affiliated airlines
2014-Oct-01 Rule 5 Highlighted words added
NOTE: For flights where First or Business Class is not offered or available, passengers may travel in a lower Class, in the applicable booking code for that lower Class.
Where the applicable booking class for the lower class is not available,
Passengers travelling on First Class Fares may book Y class
Passengers travelling on DONE* Business Class Fares may book B class
2014-Aug-01 Minor changes only
2014-Jul-01 IONE3 fares added
Other minor changes
2014-May-01 UL joins Oneworld
2014-Apr-01 JJ and US join Oneworld
2013-Dec-01 Allows DONEn travellers to fly in first class on QR’s Middle East flights
2013-Oct-30 QR joins Oneworld
Complicated new rule for 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from/via Africa
2013-Oct-01 LAN Colombia joins Oneworld
2013-Jul-01 Minor changes
Removed the ability to purchase extra intra-continent flight segments
2013-Mar-01 Changes subsequently discovered
Continents transited to be counted
Rule 8. The highlighted words dropped
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
2013-Jan-31 MH joins Oneworld
2012-Nov Rule 0 The highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS
2011-May-02 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2011-Apr-01 Rule 4(e)(3) Tanzania removed from the list of African countries where 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East allowed
2011-Feb-02 QF codeshare flight on JQ allowed
Albania and Turkey added to the list of countries to/from which only two flights allowed from/to UK
2010-Nov-01 Highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SWP AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/ OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS.
Premium Economy supplements increased
2009-Nov-30 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2009-Aug-04 Rule 4(c) Origin-Destination surface segment allowed between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Rule 8. Highlighted words added
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin
Changes to xONEx Rule Sheet
Sep 9, 2022, 7:58 pm
#706
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Thank you for checking and reporting the diffs.
If I recall correctly, they had been operating until just a few months ago, when they were grounded by safety regulators for gross violations. I understand they were also in bankruptcy reorganization but that apparently failed and they are now being liquidated.
I've flown them a number of times, most often as part of an RTW, between JNB and CPT.
If I recall correctly, they had been operating until just a few months ago, when they were grounded by safety regulators for gross violations. I understand they were also in bankruptcy reorganization but that apparently failed and they are now being liquidated.
I've flown them a number of times, most often as part of an RTW, between JNB and CPT.
May 1, 2023, 3:14 am
#707
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2023-May-01 Second Visit to Asia rule change
2023-May-01 Second Visit to Asia rule change
According to diffchecker, this is the only change.
The indicated words have been removed. This is an improvement!
It makes a second visit to Asia allowable when:
According to diffchecker, this is the only change.
4(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
- Two permitted in North America.
- Two permitted in Asia
when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East. - Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa. If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
It makes a second visit to Asia allowable when:
One is for travel to Africa (e.g. AKL-HKG-JNB)
Point of Origin is in Asia and the itinerary is westbound, for example:
CMB-LHR...LAX-NRT-HKG-SYD-PER-HKG-CMB
Point of Origin is in Asia and the itinerary is westbound, for example:
CMB-LHR...LAX-NRT-HKG-SYD-PER-HKG-CMB
Jun 13, 2023, 7:44 pm
#708
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 22
2023-May-01 Second Visit to Asia rule change
According to diffchecker, this is the only change.
[/list]The indicated words have been removed. This is an improvement!
It makes a second visit to Asia allowable when:
According to diffchecker, this is the only change.
[/list]The indicated words have been removed. This is an improvement!
It makes a second visit to Asia allowable when:
One is for travel to Africa (e.g. AKL-HKG-JNB)
Point of Origin is in Asia and the itinerary is westbound, for example:
CMB-LHR...LAX-NRT-HKG-SYD-PER-HKG-CMB
Point of Origin is in Asia and the itinerary is westbound, for example:
CMB-LHR...LAX-NRT-HKG-SYD-PER-HKG-CMB
Thanks for pointing it out.
btw pandaperth you've been a fountain of knowledge on this forum for a long time, thank you.
Jun 28, 2023, 9:12 am
#710
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 526
The continent of Europe-Middle East consists of 2 zones: Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals and Tunisia) and Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan)
Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: a. within the country of origin b. within the Middle East c. between the United States and Canada d. between HKG and China e. between Malaysia and SIN f. within Africa g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Jun 28, 2023, 10:02 am
#711
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No. From the rules sheet.
The continent of Europe-Middle East consists of 2 zones: Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals and Tunisia) and Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan)
Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: a. within the country of origin b. within the Middle East c. between the United States and Canada d. between HKG and China e. between Malaysia and SIN f. within Africa g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
The continent of Europe-Middle East consists of 2 zones: Europe (including Algeria, Morocco, Russia west of the Urals and Tunisia) and Middle East (including Egypt, Libya and Sudan)
Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: a. within the country of origin b. within the Middle East c. between the United States and Canada d. between HKG and China e. between Malaysia and SIN f. within Africa g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Sorry, I didn't mean to be picky, CMN (Casablanca is in Morocco, as part of Europe by ow rules) should be allowed as a city to end a xONEx ??
Jun 28, 2023, 10:37 am
#713
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 526
If you begin in CAI in the Middle East you can end a XoneX in the Middle East but not CMN which is in Europe. Basically they consider parts of North Africa as Europe.
Jun 28, 2023, 1:34 pm
#714
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The general rule is that a RTW must end back in the country from which it started.
There are specific exceptions to this general rule, which @anc305 listed. Morrocco is not one of the exceptions.
So, yes you can end a RTW at CMN, but only if you started in Morrocco.
To repeat, the relevant rule is:
4(c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows:
a. within the country of origin
b. within the Middle East
c. between the United States and Canada
d. between HKG and China
e. between Malaysia and SIN
f. within Africa
g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Morrocco is not in the Middle East, and as defined in the rules - it is not a part of Africa.b. within the Middle East
c. between the United States and Canada
d. between HKG and China
e. between Malaysia and SIN
f. within Africa
g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
ETA.
And tomorrow I will catch the high-speed train from Tangier down to Casablanca and then fly CMN-JFK
Jun 28, 2023, 3:54 pm
#715
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Where a RTW is allowed to end depends on where the RTW starts.
The general rule is that a RTW must end back in the country from which it started.
There are specific exceptions to this general rule, which @anc305 listed. Morrocco is not one of the exceptions.
So, yes you can end a RTW at CMN, but only if you started in Morrocco.
To repeat, the relevant rule is:
ETA.
And tomorrow I will catch the high-speed train from Tangier down to Casablanca and then fly CMN-JFK
The general rule is that a RTW must end back in the country from which it started.
There are specific exceptions to this general rule, which @anc305 listed. Morrocco is not one of the exceptions.
So, yes you can end a RTW at CMN, but only if you started in Morrocco.
To repeat, the relevant rule is:
4(c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows:
a. within the country of origin
b. within the Middle East
c. between the United States and Canada
d. between HKG and China
e. between Malaysia and SIN
f. within Africa
g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Morrocco is not in the Middle East, and as defined in the rules - it is not a part of Africa.b. within the Middle East
c. between the United States and Canada
d. between HKG and China
e. between Malaysia and SIN
f. within Africa
g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
ETA.
And tomorrow I will catch the high-speed train from Tangier down to Casablanca and then fly CMN-JFK
In Q4 I will be doing the reverse on the high speed train (Casablanca to Tangier). Please give a brief report on the train ride. I understand it is in fact a GTV.
Safe travel!
Last edited by allset2travel; Jun 28, 2023 at 3:55 pm Reason: Edit to add
Jul 1, 2023, 9:11 am
#716
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Thank you for clarifying. I thought CMN as well as CAI are consider to be part of Middle East. May bad! I plan to do a ex-CAI, so I might end at AMM instead.
In Q4 I will be doing the reverse on the high speed train (Casablanca to Tangier). Please give a brief report on the train ride. I understand it is in fact a GTV.
Safe travel!
In Q4 I will be doing the reverse on the high speed train (Casablanca to Tangier). Please give a brief report on the train ride. I understand it is in fact a GTV.
Safe travel!
Yes, the Tangier to Casablanca train is a TGV (Train a Grande Vitesse)
Well it is a TGV from Tangier to Kenitra – the display showed the speed mostly varying between 280-300kph, and I noticed a peak of 319kph.
Between Kenitra and Rabat it is merely a T, moving much more slowly.
And then between Rabat and Casablanca it is a TV, moving at between 140 and 150 kph.
2nd Class is very comfortable, everybody has a seat. Total journey time 2h10m. And it keeps closely to its timetable.
Change at Casablanca for the 30min local train out to the airport.
The 2nd class ticket cost MAD274 (~USD28): Tangier-Casablanca-CMN
Jul 1, 2023, 3:12 pm
#717
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Re the train ride
Yes, the Tangier to Casablanca train is a TGV (Train a Grande Vitesse)
Well it is a TGV from Tangier to Kenitra – the display showed the speed mostly varying between 280-300kph, and I noticed a peak of 319kph.
Between Kenitra and Rabat it is merely a T, moving much more slowly.
And then between Rabat and Casablanca it is a TV, moving at between 140 and 150 kph.
2nd Class is very comfortable, everybody has a seat. Total journey time 2h10m. And it keeps closely to its timetable.
Change at Casablanca for the 30min local train out to the airport.
The 2nd class ticket cost MAD274 (~USD28): Tangier-Casablanca-CMN
Yes, the Tangier to Casablanca train is a TGV (Train a Grande Vitesse)
Well it is a TGV from Tangier to Kenitra – the display showed the speed mostly varying between 280-300kph, and I noticed a peak of 319kph.
Between Kenitra and Rabat it is merely a T, moving much more slowly.
And then between Rabat and Casablanca it is a TV, moving at between 140 and 150 kph.
2nd Class is very comfortable, everybody has a seat. Total journey time 2h10m. And it keeps closely to its timetable.
Change at Casablanca for the 30min local train out to the airport.
The 2nd class ticket cost MAD274 (~USD28): Tangier-Casablanca-CMN
Good to learn that it took only 30 minutes by train from city to CMN.
Safe travel.
Nov 6, 2023, 1:35 am
#718
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2023-Oct-05 - Change to Premium Economy Surcharge Table
2023-Oct-05 - Change to Premium Economy Surcharge Table
Most surcharges have increased (surprise, surprise)
Also some strange new entries in the table
Most surcharges have increased (surprise, surprise)
Also some strange new entries in the table
Dec 7, 2023, 10:27 pm
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We are looking at a J Oneworld RWT
HND-HKG-YVR-DFW-MIA-BGI-LHR-ARN-DOH-CAI-DOH-DPS-SIN-MEL-AKL-SYD-HND.
DPS-SIN on jetstar. A lot of these flights are transit to get to a destination, ie DOH is a stopover to both CAI and DPS
Is this allowable? If not, can someone please point out in simple terms where I have gone wrong.
Much appreciated.
HND-HKG-YVR-DFW-MIA-BGI-LHR-ARN-DOH-CAI-DOH-DPS-SIN-MEL-AKL-SYD-HND.
DPS-SIN on jetstar. A lot of these flights are transit to get to a destination, ie DOH is a stopover to both CAI and DPS
Is this allowable? If not, can someone please point out in simple terms where I have gone wrong.
Much appreciated.
Dec 7, 2023, 11:16 pm
#720
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Question better asked in other threads. so to keep this thread on topic "Changes to xONEx Rule Sheet"
the rules onlyHave requested moderator move these 2 posts.
Jetstar is not a Oneworld airline. So cannot be used on DONE* [Rule 3015]
But Jetstar can be used on Global Explorer (distance based) DGLOB* [Rule 9701]
Are other rule differences between these fare types.
You could purchase DPS-SIN as a separate ticket on any airline.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi
RTW guru pandaperth will probably/hopefully comment on the route.
The OW RTW online tool is very buggy. Valid routes can error.
Look here https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
Click on the FAQ. One of those (How much does a RTW cost) has download links for Rules 3015 & 9701
the rules onlyHave requested moderator move these 2 posts.
We are looking at a J Oneworld RWT
HND-HKG-YVR-DFW-MIA-BGI-LHR-ARN-DOH-CAI-DOH-DPS-SIN-MEL-AKL-SYD-HND.
DPS-SIN on jetstar. A lot of these flights are transit to get to a destination, ie DOH is a stopover to both CAI and DPS
Is this allowable? If not, can someone please point out in simple terms where I have gone wrong.
Much appreciated.
HND-HKG-YVR-DFW-MIA-BGI-LHR-ARN-DOH-CAI-DOH-DPS-SIN-MEL-AKL-SYD-HND.
DPS-SIN on jetstar. A lot of these flights are transit to get to a destination, ie DOH is a stopover to both CAI and DPS
Is this allowable? If not, can someone please point out in simple terms where I have gone wrong.
Much appreciated.
But Jetstar can be used on Global Explorer (distance based) DGLOB* [Rule 9701]
Are other rule differences between these fare types.
You could purchase DPS-SIN as a separate ticket on any airline.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=c%3Ablu...=bm&PW=3&DU=mi
RTW guru pandaperth will probably/hopefully comment on the route.
The OW RTW online tool is very buggy. Valid routes can error.
Look here https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel
Click on the FAQ. One of those (How much does a RTW cost) has download links for Rules 3015 & 9701
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Dec 7, 2023 at 11:48 pm