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Last edit by: Mwenenzi
Rules
Refer https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world FAQ
At 23 Apr 2026. Dated 27 Feb 2026, but on OW web site 23 Apr 2026.
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._27_FEB_26.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._27_FEB_26.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._27_FEB_26.pdf
Very useful QF link from 2018, but assume still current, as regions do not change.
https://www.qantas.com/content/dam/q...continents.pdf
At at 15 Dec 2025
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...5_DEC_2025.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._15_DEC_25.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...5_DEC_2025.pdf
as at 01 July 2025
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._1July2025.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._1July2025.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._1July2025.pdf
Chronological Summary of Changes to the Oneworld Explorer Rule Sheet
(click on the dates to go to the relevant posts in this thread)
2026-Apr-23 HA brand of AS formally joined OW
2026-Jan-12 Formatting and 2018 QF link
2025-Dec-15 Changes triggered by QF schedule changes
2025-Jun-30 WY Oman Air becomes a full member of Oneworld
2025-Mar-31 FJ becomes a full member of Oneworld
2023-Oct-05 Changes to the Premium Economy surcharge table
2023-May-01 Rule 4(e) change, regarding second visit to Asia
2022-Aug-31 Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
2022-Apr-21 S7 removed from the list of airlines
2021-Jul-01 Minor change
2021-Apr-01 AS joins the alliance
2020-May-01 LATAM (LA & JJ) leaves the alliance
2020-Apr-01 Royal Air Maroc (AT) joins the alliance
2019-Mar-15 Minor change
2019-Feb-11 Rule 4(j) Wording, in part, changed from:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
To:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked in conjunction with a QF operated and marketed online connection or stopover flight at LAX
Rule 15 Following paragraph removed
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate.
Other, minor, changes
2019-Jan-08 Minor change (to the list of AA-affiliated airlines)
2018-Jun-06 Rule 16 - VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
Highlighted words removed
16(a)2d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated.
2018-Mar-05 Rule 4(j) Words added:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
2017-Oct-30 Rule 5 Reservations and Ticketing: changed wording
From:
Reservations for the first overwater flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
To:
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
Air berlin removed (it has ceased operating)
2017-Sep-05 No change (see the linked post)
2017-Aug-01 Rule 4(e) Major change regarding second visits to certain continents
Old Version:
New Version:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
Two permitted in North America.
Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. AA Premium Economy booking classes added
2017-Feb-01 Rule 4(f) has the following words added:
No more than 4 international transfers from the one country permitted
2016-Dec-01 Rule 0 Removal of these words
3 Continent Fare is only offered for travel originating in Asia, Europe/Middle East and North America
(because southern hemisphere 3- continent itineraries became possible when JJ commenced its GRU-JNB service)
Rule 4(g) addition of these words:
The first crossing between TC areas must be flown, not surfaced
Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*not more than 2 of which may be between the UK and ALBANIA, ALGERIA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CYPRUS, GREECE, MIDDLE EAST, MOROCCO, ROMANIA, RUSSIA west of the Urals, TUNISIA, TURKEY, UKRAINE.
2016-Aug-04 Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*segments between Europe and Middle East are not permitted if travel includes Africa and the itinerary utilises the backtracking provisions in Para 4(e) 3.1.3.or 3.2.3.
(So no more complicated rules regarding second visits to Europe/Middle East)
2016-Apr-22 Rule 4(e) Major change to the 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East rule
New wording is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...iddle-east.png Rule 8Stopovers.
Removal of the highlighted words:
2. Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
Rule 15 Sales Restrictions
Removal of the highlighted words:
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within Europe.
2016-Apr-01 Minor change to booking classes
2015-Dec-01 Minor change to list of affiliate airlines and to the cancellation fee
2015-Nov-01 US Airways removed from list of airlines (its merger with AA was complete)
2015-Sep-01Rule 4(k) ATL added to list of east coast cities
Rule 26 Change to group booking codes
2015-Jun-01 Rule 4(k) TPA added to list of east coast cities
2015-Feb-01 Minor change to the list of affiliated carriers
Rule 16 Voluntary Changes
Removal of Date/Time/Carrier changes. Phrase now used is changes to ticketed points
2014-Nov-01 Rule 4(j) change to the list of affiliated airlines
2014-Oct-01 Rule 5 Highlighted words added
NOTE: For flights where First or Business Class is not offered or available, passengers may travel in a lower Class, in the applicable booking code for that lower Class.
Where the applicable booking class for the lower class is not available,
Passengers travelling on First Class Fares may book Y class
Passengers travelling on DONE* Business Class Fares may book B class
2014-Aug-01 Minor changes only
2014-Jul-01 IONE3 fares added
Other minor changes
2014-May-01 UL joins Oneworld
2014-Apr-01 JJ and US join Oneworld
2013-Dec-01 Allows DONEn travellers to fly in first class on QRs Middle East flights
2013-Oct-30 QR joins Oneworld
Complicated new rule for 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from/via Africa
2013-Oct-01 LAN Colombia joins Oneworld
2013-Jul-01 Minor changes
Removed the ability to purchase extra intra-continent flight segments
2013-Mar-01 Changes subsequently discovered
Continents transited to be counted
Rule 8. The highlighted words dropped
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
2013-Jan-31 MH joins Oneworld
2012-Nov Rule 0 The highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS
2011-May-02 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2011-Apr-01 Rule 4(e)(3) Tanzania removed from the list of African countries where 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East allowed
2011-Feb-02 QF codeshare flight on JQ allowed
Albania and Turkey added to the list of countries to/from which only two flights allowed from/to UK
2010-Nov-01 Highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SWP AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/ OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS.
Premium Economy supplements increased
2009-Nov-30 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2009-Aug-04 Rule 4(c) Origin-Destination surface segment allowed between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Rule 8. Highlighted words added
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin
Refer https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world FAQ
At 23 Apr 2026. Dated 27 Feb 2026, but on OW web site 23 Apr 2026.
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._27_FEB_26.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._27_FEB_26.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._27_FEB_26.pdf
Very useful QF link from 2018, but assume still current, as regions do not change.
https://www.qantas.com/content/dam/q...continents.pdf
At at 15 Dec 2025
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...5_DEC_2025.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._15_DEC_25.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...5_DEC_2025.pdf
as at 01 July 2025
OW Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._1July2025.pdf
Global Explorer https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._1July2025.pdf
Circle Pacific https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv..._1July2025.pdf
Chronological Summary of Changes to the Oneworld Explorer Rule Sheet
(click on the dates to go to the relevant posts in this thread)
2026-Apr-23 HA brand of AS formally joined OW
2026-Jan-12 Formatting and 2018 QF link
2025-Dec-15 Changes triggered by QF schedule changes
2025-Jun-30 WY Oman Air becomes a full member of Oneworld
2025-Mar-31 FJ becomes a full member of Oneworld
2023-Oct-05 Changes to the Premium Economy surcharge table
2023-May-01 Rule 4(e) change, regarding second visit to Asia
2022-Aug-31 Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
2022-Apr-21 S7 removed from the list of airlines
2021-Jul-01 Minor change
2021-Apr-01 AS joins the alliance
2020-May-01 LATAM (LA & JJ) leaves the alliance
2020-Apr-01 Royal Air Maroc (AT) joins the alliance
2019-Mar-15 Minor change
2019-Feb-11 Rule 4(j) Wording, in part, changed from:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
To:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked in conjunction with a QF operated and marketed online connection or stopover flight at LAX
Rule 15 Following paragraph removed
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate.
Other, minor, changes
2019-Jan-08 Minor change (to the list of AA-affiliated airlines)
2018-Jun-06 Rule 16 - VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
Highlighted words removed
16(a)2d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated.
2018-Mar-05 Rule 4(j) Words added:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
2017-Oct-30 Rule 5 Reservations and Ticketing: changed wording
From:
Reservations for the first overwater flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
To:
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
Air berlin removed (it has ceased operating)
2017-Sep-05 No change (see the linked post)
2017-Aug-01 Rule 4(e) Major change regarding second visits to certain continents
Old Version:
New Version:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
Two permitted in North America.
Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. AA Premium Economy booking classes added
2017-Feb-01 Rule 4(f) has the following words added:
No more than 4 international transfers from the one country permitted
2016-Dec-01 Rule 0 Removal of these words
3 Continent Fare is only offered for travel originating in Asia, Europe/Middle East and North America
(because southern hemisphere 3- continent itineraries became possible when JJ commenced its GRU-JNB service)
Rule 4(g) addition of these words:
The first crossing between TC areas must be flown, not surfaced
Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*not more than 2 of which may be between the UK and ALBANIA, ALGERIA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CYPRUS, GREECE, MIDDLE EAST, MOROCCO, ROMANIA, RUSSIA west of the Urals, TUNISIA, TURKEY, UKRAINE.
2016-Aug-04 Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*segments between Europe and Middle East are not permitted if travel includes Africa and the itinerary utilises the backtracking provisions in Para 4(e) 3.1.3.or 3.2.3.
(So no more complicated rules regarding second visits to Europe/Middle East)
2016-Apr-22 Rule 4(e) Major change to the 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East rule
New wording is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...iddle-east.png Rule 8Stopovers.
Removal of the highlighted words:
2. Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
Rule 15 Sales Restrictions
Removal of the highlighted words:
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within Europe.
2016-Apr-01 Minor change to booking classes
2015-Dec-01 Minor change to list of affiliate airlines and to the cancellation fee
2015-Nov-01 US Airways removed from list of airlines (its merger with AA was complete)
2015-Sep-01Rule 4(k) ATL added to list of east coast cities
Rule 26 Change to group booking codes
2015-Jun-01 Rule 4(k) TPA added to list of east coast cities
2015-Feb-01 Minor change to the list of affiliated carriers
Rule 16 Voluntary Changes
Removal of Date/Time/Carrier changes. Phrase now used is changes to ticketed points
2014-Nov-01 Rule 4(j) change to the list of affiliated airlines
2014-Oct-01 Rule 5 Highlighted words added
NOTE: For flights where First or Business Class is not offered or available, passengers may travel in a lower Class, in the applicable booking code for that lower Class.
Where the applicable booking class for the lower class is not available,
Passengers travelling on First Class Fares may book Y class
Passengers travelling on DONE* Business Class Fares may book B class
2014-Aug-01 Minor changes only
2014-Jul-01 IONE3 fares added
Other minor changes
2014-May-01 UL joins Oneworld
2014-Apr-01 JJ and US join Oneworld
2013-Dec-01 Allows DONEn travellers to fly in first class on QRs Middle East flights
2013-Oct-30 QR joins Oneworld
Complicated new rule for 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from/via Africa
2013-Oct-01 LAN Colombia joins Oneworld
2013-Jul-01 Minor changes
Removed the ability to purchase extra intra-continent flight segments
2013-Mar-01 Changes subsequently discovered
Continents transited to be counted
Rule 8. The highlighted words dropped
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
2013-Jan-31 MH joins Oneworld
2012-Nov Rule 0 The highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS
2011-May-02 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2011-Apr-01 Rule 4(e)(3) Tanzania removed from the list of African countries where 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East allowed
2011-Feb-02 QF codeshare flight on JQ allowed
Albania and Turkey added to the list of countries to/from which only two flights allowed from/to UK
2010-Nov-01 Highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SWP AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/ OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS.
Premium Economy supplements increased
2009-Nov-30 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed
2009-Aug-04 Rule 4(c) Origin-Destination surface segment allowed between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Rule 8. Highlighted words added
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin
Changes to xONEx Rule Sheet
Mar 25, 2024 | 5:15 pm
#722
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, AA liftime gold
Posts: 687
How sure are we about the wiki entry implying you won't pay for a base fair increase if reticketing after departure?
That's what I understood too but two of best AA rtw helpdesk staff have both suggested it's likely my ex CAI ticket priced at Cathay's rate last week would reprice if I rerouted even if I did so after departure.
The rules are clear that you will pay for a base fair hike if you reticket before 1st departure or if you add to the number of continents, but is does not explicitly say you won't if you reticket after departure without a change in continents. That strongly implies you shouldn't pay for the hike if reticketing after departure but note how b below does not say you have to pay for the difference in taxes etc. which we know you do so I can see how Cathay (/AA rtw desk) might argue the base fair hike is treated the same way.
Prior to departure: "If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will also be charged."
After departure (wording in full for Eff 1 September 2018 rules):
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.
d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value
That's what I understood too but two of best AA rtw helpdesk staff have both suggested it's likely my ex CAI ticket priced at Cathay's rate last week would reprice if I rerouted even if I did so after departure.
The rules are clear that you will pay for a base fair hike if you reticket before 1st departure or if you add to the number of continents, but is does not explicitly say you won't if you reticket after departure without a change in continents. That strongly implies you shouldn't pay for the hike if reticketing after departure but note how b below does not say you have to pay for the difference in taxes etc. which we know you do so I can see how Cathay (/AA rtw desk) might argue the base fair hike is treated the same way.
Prior to departure: "If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will also be charged."
After departure (wording in full for Eff 1 September 2018 rules):
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.
d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value
Mar 26, 2024 | 11:23 am
#723
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Programs: AA ExPl, BA Gold, DL Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, probably some others
Posts: 4,932
How sure are we about the wiki entry implying you won't pay for a base fair increase if reticketing after departure?
That's what I understood too but two of best AA rtw helpdesk staff have both suggested it's likely my ex CAI ticket priced at Cathay's rate last week would reprice if I rerouted even if I did so after departure.
The rules are clear that you will pay for a base fair hike if you reticket before 1st departure or if you add to the number of continents, but is does not explicitly say you won't if you reticket after departure without a change in continents. That strongly implies you shouldn't pay for the hike if reticketing after departure but note how b below does not say you have to pay for the difference in taxes etc. which we know you do so I can see how Cathay (/AA rtw desk) might argue the base fair hike is treated the same way.
Prior to departure: "If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will also be charged."
After departure (wording in full for Eff 1 September 2018 rules):
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.
d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value
That's what I understood too but two of best AA rtw helpdesk staff have both suggested it's likely my ex CAI ticket priced at Cathay's rate last week would reprice if I rerouted even if I did so after departure.
The rules are clear that you will pay for a base fair hike if you reticket before 1st departure or if you add to the number of continents, but is does not explicitly say you won't if you reticket after departure without a change in continents. That strongly implies you shouldn't pay for the hike if reticketing after departure but note how b below does not say you have to pay for the difference in taxes etc. which we know you do so I can see how Cathay (/AA rtw desk) might argue the base fair hike is treated the same way.
Prior to departure: "If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and new fare will also be charged."
After departure (wording in full for Eff 1 September 2018 rules):
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.
d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value
If you make changes to the ticket after flying the first leg and change the routing or stopover points, you shouldn't be charged. CX might try, of course, but it all depends on the agent and how often you're willing to HUCB and push the issue.
Mar 27, 2024 | 2:35 am
#724
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,364
If you make changes to your ticket after flying the first leg and don't change the routing or stopover points, you won't be charged. Full stop.
If you make changes to the ticket after flying the first leg and change the routing or stopover points, you shouldn't be charged. CX might try, of course, but it all depends on the agent and how often you're willing to HUCB and push the issue.
If you make changes to the ticket after flying the first leg and change the routing or stopover points, you shouldn't be charged. CX might try, of course, but it all depends on the agent and how often you're willing to HUCB and push the issue.
Having said that CX just changed one for me last week (CX issued ticket) for free when I did change ticketed points, but I believe my taxes and fees actually went down in the change, so was probably a wash or nearly so. I changed from a CX transit in HKG to a MH / JL transit in KUL, from what I can see KUL has no passenger or facility charges for transit, while HKG has a fairly substantial one. I'm not sure about YR, but since it's a CX ticket I suspect I also saved a bit there changing from their codes to MH and JL.
Mar 27, 2024 | 3:16 am
#725
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, AA liftime gold
Posts: 687
Having said that CX just changed one for me last week (CX issued ticket) for free when I did change ticketed points, but I believe my taxes and fees actually went down in the change, so was probably a wash or nearly so. I changed from a CX transit in HKG to a MH / JL transit in KUL, from what I can see KUL has no passenger or facility charges for transit, while HKG has a fairly substantial one. I'm not sure about YR, but since it's a CX ticket I suspect I also saved a bit there changing from their codes to MH and JL.
Mar 27, 2024 | 3:21 am
#726
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,364
Ah sorry, that was my old ex-TYO ticket, CX ticketed from the start on CX fare basis. It wasn't actually related to the ex-CAI deal, I just needed to make some changes on it last week to nest part of the remaining segments into my ex-CAI itinerary.
Mar 27, 2024 | 3:27 am
#727
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, AA liftime gold
Posts: 687
Basically, I'm not sure how tightly tied you are to who ticketed.
Mar 27, 2024 | 4:51 am
#728
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,364
Ah! Thanks for the clarification. Well, I'll be trying my luck with AA in late May. Hmm, while I suspect CX wouldn't touch an AA ticketed xONEx ... I wonder if a travel agent that handles xONEx tickets could.
Basically, I'm not sure how tightly tied you are to who ticketed.
Basically, I'm not sure how tightly tied you are to who ticketed.
In your case, AA is much easier to deal with on these tickets than CX, no reason to try getting someone else to take it over.
Mar 27, 2024 | 5:28 am
#729
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, AA liftime gold
Posts: 687
<snip>
In your case, AA is much easier to deal with on these tickets than CX, no reason to try getting someone else to take it over.
Last edited by zoombee; Mar 27, 2024 at 5:28 am Reason: syntax typo
Mar 27, 2024 | 9:15 am
#731
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,121
As noted, travel agents usually are unable to take over airline generated itineraries (but airlines can take over agency issued ones).
Mar 27, 2024 | 9:41 am
#732
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,364
In the past, most OneWorld airlines were happy to take over an xONEx issued by any OneWorld airline, since they all publish the same fares, so one issued by any conforms to the same fare issued by any other. More recently, especially after a few super-cheap RTWs, many airlines are now reluctant to touch an RTW issued by a different airline. I believe AA will take over one issued by another airline for a fee. If you have an AA prime flight that you can upgrade with miles+copay or an SWU, then AA will take over the ticket as part of the upgrade, at which point the AA RTW desk will handle further changes without the takeover fee. Other airlines will sometimes take over another's RTW, but it may depend on which agent you get.
As noted, travel agents usually are unable to take over airline generated itineraries (but airlines can take over agency issued ones).
As noted, travel agents usually are unable to take over airline generated itineraries (but airlines can take over agency issued ones).
Mar 27, 2024 | 3:28 pm
#733
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,121
Holy cow I wish I knew that a year and a half ago. I did upgrade my first QF RTW with an AA SWU GRU-JFK and had some of my first encounters with how bad QF was to deal with about 2 weeks later when I broke my leg in Tbilisi and had to make some changes due to not being able to fly out of Tbilisi as planned plus not being able to fly to CPH anymore due to no flights out of there to get home in a flat bed business seat (my leg was locked straight in a brace, Euro business wouldn't work). I eventually got myself home via CDG but it wasn't easy with QF handling the ticket to CDG (changed from CPH and got my own ticket in JL F from there).
Yes, when AA upgrades a flight, they reissue the ticket so the upgraded flight reservation has a matching flight coupon. Then, since it's an AA ticket, the AA RTW desk will handle it as normal. But even without an upgrade, I believe AA will take over another airline's RTW for a fee.
Mar 27, 2024 | 4:43 pm
#734
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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This thread topic is Changes to xONEx Rule Sheet
Many recent posts are not about rule *changes*, but typical issues with booking, reissues and bugs in the RTW tool.
Sticky threads
The Oneworld Explorer User Guide
Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
xONEx online tool bugs thread
RTW re-issue concerns (merged thread)
Many recent posts are not about rule *changes*, but typical issues with booking, reissues and bugs in the RTW tool.
Sticky threads
The Oneworld Explorer User Guide
Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
xONEx online tool bugs thread
RTW re-issue concerns (merged thread)
Mar 27, 2024 | 7:43 pm
#735
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,121
This thread topic is Changes to xONEx Rule Sheet
Many recent posts are not about rule *changes*, but typical issues with booking, reissues and bugs in the RTW tool.
Sticky threads
The Oneworld Explorer User Guide
Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
xONEx online tool bugs thread
RTW re-issue concerns (merged thread)
Many recent posts are not about rule *changes*, but typical issues with booking, reissues and bugs in the RTW tool.
Sticky threads
The Oneworld Explorer User Guide
Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
xONEx online tool bugs thread
RTW re-issue concerns (merged thread)