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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Dec 7, 2015, 4:19 pm
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Is middle seat in Delta Comfort good for JFK-NRT-SIN segment?. I have exit row seat, but few middle row Delta Comfort seats are empty. Wondering if the Delta Comfort seats are more comfortable. Thanks
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Old Dec 8, 2015, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by Love_Travel
Is middle seat in Delta Comfort good for JFK-NRT-SIN segment?. I have exit row seat, but few middle row Delta Comfort seats are empty. Wondering if the Delta Comfort seats are more comfortable. Thanks
The seats are the same, it depends where your exit row seat is as some have limited recline. It your seat is in back by the door you will definitely have lots of room in front and no seat coming back towards you. In EC+ there is more pitch. Distance between seats. If you have an EC+ bulkhead seat even if a middle you can get in and out of your seat more easily. My preference is an aisle seat, if you get aisle bulkhead that is good. EC+ seats have a little more recline than regular seats. What type of aircraft and you can take a look at Seat Guru and see what they say. If you have any more questions let us know. If any readers have comments please feel free to add.

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Old Dec 8, 2015, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
Looks like you are getting wifi on the plane. How late is your flight to JFK and how much time do you have. Assume you have GE so you an sail through immigration. Let me know if you make it. Good luck.
Upgrades cleared at gate for SIN-NRT-JFK. Flight was just under an hour delayed, leaving me with a ~50 min connection in JFK. No GE but i managed to sprint to customs, got the dreaded X on my automated entry slip and got taken into the back waiting room while they checked something on a computer before sending me on my way, whole thing took less then 5 min.

SPRINTED through the airport to get to my original flight while simultaneously calling Delta to try to get my seat back. Unfortunately the agent couldnt do much as it was so close to departure and id have to deal with the gate agent. I made it to the gate about 20 min before departure but the agent told me my original seat was already gone and D1 had filled. So i trudged over to the Skyclub to wait for the later flight. At that point from all the running i was a sweaty mess and then had a 25 min wait for a shower But my upgrade cleared too so it wasnt all bad.

Realized on this run i flew D1 on the 747, 757, 767, and 777
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Old Dec 9, 2015, 1:45 am
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Prices Dec 9 LAX Dep

LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM

Fares from Google.com/flights, dates not given higher price, checked thru May
Buy from Kayak.com

$853 ai 3.39 cpm Jan 25-28 Best Fare

If you get better prices please post. Comments and questions welcomed.

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Old Dec 9, 2015, 2:31 am
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Prices on Dec 9 - SFO Dep

SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM

This seems to be only date in first 5 months of 2016 with a price worth a MR but remember to keep checking as the date for flight gets closer and DL needs to fill seats, the price comes down! Other dates higher. Prices from Google.com/flights. Get tickets from Kayak.com Anyone interested in MR on Jan 25-28? Might consider doing one.

$855 ai 3.38 cpm Jan 25-28 BEST PRICE!

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Old Dec 9, 2015, 11:56 am
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Thanks everyone expecially Csfing1. My trip is very good so far. Currently at SIN airport. Decided to cancel room at the transit hotel as SIN airport has lots of places to eat, rest and also have clean toilets. The newly built DNATA lounge is only for business class PAX. Lots of empty seats in JFK-NRT and NRT-SIN. Mostly got Exit ROW seats. JFK, NRT skyclubs were very good.

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Old Dec 9, 2015, 4:55 pm
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Thanks for your report!

Originally Posted by xolinlevh
Upgrades cleared at gate for SIN-NRT-JFK. Flight was just under an hour delayed, leaving me with a ~50 min connection in JFK. No GE but i managed to sprint to customs, got the dreaded X on my automated entry slip and got taken into the back waiting room while they checked something on a computer before sending me on my way, whole thing took less then 5 min.

SPRINTED through the airport to get to my original flight while simultaneously calling Delta to try to get my seat back. Unfortunately the agent couldnt do much as it was so close to departure and id have to deal with the gate agent. I made it to the gate about 20 min before departure but the agent told me my original seat was already gone and D1 had filled. So i trudged over to the Skyclub to wait for the later flight. At that point from all the running i was a sweaty mess and then had a 25 min wait for a shower But my upgrade cleared too so it wasnt all bad.

Realized on this run i flew D1 on the 747, 757, 767, and 777
Thanks for your report. Want to do another Jan 25-28? Get a good start on the new year! Did you get UG on flight home?

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Old Dec 9, 2015, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Love_Travel
Thanks everyone expecially Csfing1. My trip is very good so far. Currently at SIN airport. Decided to cancel room at the SIN transit hotel as SIN airport has lots of places to eat, rest and also have clean toilets. The newly built DNATA lounge is only for business class PAX. Lots of empty seats in JFK-NRT and NRT-SIN. Mostly got Exiot ROW seats. JFK, NRT skyclubs were very good.
Glad that things are working out for your trip, am in SIN till Dec 18 when we return SIN NRT PDX SMF. Hoping for UG SIN NRT as y only has 2 seats left and there are 2 in J. NRT PDX has too many empty seats. Hope you explored airport, lots of good pix opportunities especially with Christmas decorations and ample places to eat. Showers in SC in NRT and JFK. Enjoy your run! Let us know how your return trip goes.

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Old Dec 10, 2015, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1


Thanks for your report. Want to do another Jan 25-28? Get a good start on the new year! Did you get UG on flight home?

Happy Travels! Get your QV Flu shot! Blessings!
I'm debating it! Ill be rolling over ~30k right now, plus 2x Amex boosts easily, a run would get me PM rather quicky Gotta see what my holiday pay looks like first. Got the upgrades all the way back SIN-NRT-JFK-LAX-MSP I was actually poking around trying to see if there are cheap dates around then via DTW so i could try again for 747 upper deck
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Old Dec 10, 2015, 6:14 pm
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Found sfo-jfk-nrt-sin-nrt-dtw-jfk-lax-sfo for $1,700 through kayak in May; almost 26k MQM.

I'm pretty new at this. I'd be very interested if I could stop over at NRT and maybe at JFK or SIN as well. Fare rules window on the delta website says "2 stopovers permitted. 1 per direction..." and then cuts off after mentioning "$100"
Has anybody used stopovers on this routing ? Not trying to do a purist's MR, but just a vacation with an eccentric routing and MQM boost.
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Old Dec 10, 2015, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by xolinlevh
I'm debating it! Ill be rolling over ~30k right now, plus 2x Amex boosts easily, a run would get me PM rather quicky Gotta see what my holiday pay looks like first. Got the upgrades all the way back SIN-NRT-JFK-LAX-MSP I was actually poking around trying to see if there are cheap dates around then via DTW so i could try again for 747 upper deck
I would be interested... but no GUCs for me being a lowly PM
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Old Dec 11, 2015, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by thesaints
Found sfo-jfk-nrt-sin-nrt-dtw-jfk-lax-sfo for $1,700 through kayak in May; almost 26k MQM.

I'm pretty new at this. I'd be very interested if I could stop over at NRT and maybe at JFK or SIN as well. Fare rules window on the delta website says "2 stopovers permitted. 1 per direction..." and then cuts off after mentioning "$100"
Has anybody used stopovers on this routing ? Not trying to do a purist's MR, but just a vacation with an eccentric routing and MQM boost.
as far as i know its not really possible. Though also 1700 is really a bad price for this run, you can often find it for the 900-1100 range

Originally Posted by IWontRegretThis
I would be interested... but no GUCs for me being a lowly PM
Im debating if id use my GUCs next time. Dont get me wrong beds are GREAT but part of me wants to save them for an actual vacation (unless ofc i can confirm upper deck 747! )
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Old Dec 12, 2015, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1

Want to do another Jan 25-28? Get a good start on the new year! Did you get UG on flight home?
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So, I would love to do a Mileage Run with you. I'll be rolling over 45K, and have a major BKK MR (25,538 MQM's) that I picked up for $832.

Just finished running with the #DiamondSix and also my Costa Rica MR for less than 1.6CPM. So I do not need a lot more.

I could not do the Jan 25-28 but am interested later in the year if prices get sweet again. I typically do not use GUC's since I save those for vacations with the wife.

Love your commitment to this post...I flew with a buddy of yours btw in the #DiamondSix (TexasYankee)

Mahalo!

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Old Dec 14, 2015, 9:26 am
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Smile Prices on Dec 14. LAX & SFO Dep

LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM

Prices from Google.com/flights, this price might not last
Buy on kayak.com

$853 ai 3.40 cpm Jan 25-28 LAX Dep Best price LAX Dep
$866 ai 3.42 cpm Jan 25-28 SFO Dep Best price SFO Dep

Happy Travels! Get your QV Flu shot! Blessings!

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Old Dec 15, 2015, 8:06 pm
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Smile Prices Dec 15, same as Dec 14 - Buy before prices go up!

LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 25,096 MQM
SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO 25,318 MQM

DL having sale to Asia but these are better, probably won't last much longer as more seats sold prices go up! Cheers!

Prices from Google.com/flights, this price might not last
Buy on kayak.com

$853 ai 3.40 cpm Jan 25-28 LAX Dep Best price LAX Dep
$866 ai 3.42 cpm Jan 25-28 SFO Dep Best price SFO Dep


Happy Travels! Get your QV Flu shot! Blessings!
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