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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Jun 24, 2014, 1:15 pm
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I know this thread is for USA-SIN, but a few other over there are quite a bit cheaper right now...

SFO-MSP-NRT-HKG-NRT-DTW-SFO for 4.29 CPM 19649 miles 844.00, dates in Nov, bunch of other cities and options as well. Everything but SIN on sale!
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Old Jun 24, 2014, 2:54 pm
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Good price! Thank you very much for your post and information and letting us know the price. If anyone has prices for other destinations in Asia, BKK, PEK, etc. and the prices are good for MR, please post.

Have a great week! Happy Travels! Cheers.
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Old Jun 24, 2014, 3:55 pm
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Did I read the other day that MSP-NRT is back on a 744?
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Old Jun 24, 2014, 5:18 pm
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Aircraft from MSP NRT

Originally Posted by DeltaWings
Did I read the other day that MSP-NRT is back on a 744?
In July they are using the 744, checked in Oct they were using a 777. From NRT SIN it is usually a 777.

Thanks for your question. Have a great day!
Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Jun 25, 2014, 7:36 pm
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Fares on Jun 25

SFO Dep
$1212.90 ai 25,318 MQM 4.79 cpm SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO Nov 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 24-27. Lowest fare cpm


LAX Dep
$1219.90 ai 25,096 MQM 4.86 cpm LAX JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX Nov 3-6, 10-13, 17-20,
$1215.90 ai 25,096 MQM 4.84 cpm Nov 24-27

SMF Dep
$1255.90 ai 24,542 MQM 5.12 cpm SMF ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL SMF Nov 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 24-27

Happy travels! Cheers!
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 1:41 pm
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Question: Doing this as a MR with a 4hr 50 minute layover before the return. I'd like to get to central Singapore to at least get a photo or two and some food. Doable? Should I just take the taxi? Getting in at 1:10a.

Thanks for any advice.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 2:16 pm
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Hey Csfing1, you do a great job of keeping this thread updated. I have been following this thread, but finally have a reason to go visit SIN. Looking at dates over the New Year's week. If travel spills over the 1/1/2015, do you know if we get full RDMs for only the trip there and get RDM/$ on the trip back?
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 12:25 am
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Originally Posted by mspflier
Question: Doing this as a MR with a 4hr 50 minute layover before the return. I'd like to get to central Singapore to at least get a photo or two and some food. Doable? Should I just take the taxi? Getting in at 1:10a.

Thanks for any advice.
It can be done, but there will be a 50% additional charge to whatever the taxi meter says at that time of the night, this is in effect between midnight and 0600. There are some places that will be open for food but you can also get food at the airport. If you get a good taxi driver he can tell you where you can get some food. You can get pictures of the Merlion but I am not sure if there will be lights on at that time. Enjoy your trip, when will you be going? Summer or fall?

Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by WindingRoad
Hey Csfing1, you do a great job of keeping this thread updated. I have been following this thread, but finally have a reason to go visit SIN. Looking at dates over the New Year's week. If travel spills over the 1/1/2015, do you know if we get full RDMs for only the trip there and get RDM/$ on the trip back?
I think you are correct unless you start your trip back before 1/1/2015. You could call in and ask and see what they say.

Happy Travels! Enjoy your trip! Cheers!
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Old Jun 27, 2014, 6:47 am
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mspflier--stay a day

hey mspflier, are you using your GUCs for this? I did and cleared every segment both ways. If you can, stay a day. Go to Ground Transportation, ride the 9SGD airport shuttle that takes to hotels, check in at 3am, sleep, get the Big Bus tour for the day, take all the photos you want, get back on that shuttle at next day(ask your driver if he'll pick you back up and take you to the airport next day same time) and head to airport.

If you've never been to SIN, it is fantastic, food cheap, so varied, and delicious. Hotels are very high, but if you have points, it's fantastic. I've stayed at JW Marriott, and Hilton Singapore. Both are on Orchard Road, the main drag, and Big Bus stops right there.

Good luck and enjoy!
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 1:21 am
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Fares on Jun 29 for SFO Dep

SFO Dep
$1212.90 ai 25,318 MQM 4.79 cpm SFO JFK NRT SIN NRT JFK SFO Nov 3-6, 10-13, 17-20, 24-27. Lowest fare cpm


Happy Travels! Cheers!
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by WindingRoad
If travel spills over the 1/1/2015, do you know if we get full RDMs for only the trip there and get RDM/$ on the trip back?
You should get RDM's figured the old way for any segments with a scheduled departure before midnight January 1, 2015, local (not Atlanta) time. If not, just send in a missing mileage claim.

In 2015, I think there still will be a use for the west-coast to JFK to SIN routing for the sake of MQM's and those wanting a whole-day layover in New York to see the city.
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 6:03 pm
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Bowgie, are you a Bowgie gal or Bowgie guy?
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
Enjoy your trip, when will you be going? Summer or fall?[/B]
Going next week! Trying to game out my strategy upon landing. I guess taxi it is...
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by lking
hey mspflier, are you using your GUCs for this? I did and cleared every segment both ways. If you can, stay a day.
I wish. Only have the 4hr 50min layover. Just trying to get into the city or a scenic overlook (?) to take a pic in an iconic place to prove I was there, then back to the airport.

There's always hoping I get a bump... Delta, do I hear $600 and a hotel in SIN???
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